First car for Son
Discussion
lowdrag said:
The Picanto; I looked at one for SWMBO and as soon as I opened the bonnet and looked at the welding it reminded me of a 30 yr old Metro. I came home and researched the crash test data. Sure enough, three stars, so we bought a Yaris (five stars) this was four years back so in both cases the old model.
Three months later she was hit from behind by a drunk using his phone and shunted into the car in front. The crumple zones worked wonders and she escaped shocked but unhurt. That wouldn't have happened in the Picanto.
Hardly comparing apples with apples are you - Picanto is in the same class as the Toyota Aygo, not the Yaris. Aygo is also a 3 star car.Three months later she was hit from behind by a drunk using his phone and shunted into the car in front. The crumple zones worked wonders and she escaped shocked but unhurt. That wouldn't have happened in the Picanto.
TheBALDpuma said:
As others have said, the mk1 Ka is a lot older than the other, but a good drive.
Again, a little older than the others, but have you considered a 306?
My experience is only one but I would avoid these 306's, I had one with a 1.8 petrol and it was horrible and wouldn't meet any of the OP's requirements except possibly safety. I know I was (am) inexperienced but getting it to pivot round the engine was easy (I did it once @ 20mph on a r'bout) and therefore if it's the OP's son's first car then maybe he will also find a way to point it the wrong way as me learns? Even my MG which cost more to keep going was better than my 306, glad I scrapped it. Again, a little older than the others, but have you considered a 306?
What's the insurance like on one of these for your son?
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Otter Smacker said:
What's the insurance like on one of these for your son?
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I am not even going to be looking that one up! It's got 123BHP and probably group 15 ish! ![](http://img.pistonheads.com.s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/Fullsize/suzuki/swift/sport/suzuki-swift-sport-S887428-3.jpg)
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HONDA JAZZ 1.2 i-DSI S 5dr (2006) £3,791...
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As far as what I've read on PH, these are apparently excellent cars!
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As far as what I've read on PH, these are apparently excellent cars!
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BlueEyedBoy said:
Toaster Pilot said:
Looks like a perfectly acceptable thing for 3 grand - I didnt even know you could get one with a 1.4 engine in that shape though!
SO the 1.4 is about 600 less PA to insure, so comes out around 1.7K which is not too shabby, I bet its a lethargic old beast though.Greg_D said:
and that's a bad thing for a 17 year old inexperienced driver how exactly?????? I'd get literally the slowest old boat i could find...
Because I would rather he had something slow yet fun to drive, than just something heavy, slow and bad on fuel. I hadn't dismissed this though as the focus is meant to be a good steer.Otter Smacker said:
HONDA JAZZ 1.2 i-DSI S 5dr (2006) £3,791...
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As far as what I've read on PH, these are apparently excellent cars!
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/h...
Now this is a top shout... and a Honda Jazz 1.4 I-DSi Sport is only £100 more.![](http://img.pistonheads.com.s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/Fullsize/honda/jazz/1-2-i-dsi-s-5dr/honda-jazz-1-2-i-dsi-s-5dr-53673508-1.jpg)
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As far as what I've read on PH, these are apparently excellent cars!
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Edited by BlueEyedBoy on Monday 25th November 15:20
1.6 facelift version?
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200 nicker under budget, newer and has better spec than the one I previously posted - although, does have twice the mileage that you asked:
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/f...
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200 nicker under budget, newer and has better spec than the one I previously posted - although, does have twice the mileage that you asked:
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/f...
I thought the golden rule, from an insurance point of view, for a 17 year old lad's first car is one they (or their mates) wouldn't be seen dead in.
Nissan Micra/Note/Pixo, Vauxhall Agila, Cheverolet Matiz, Suzuki Alto etc.
Not that you'll get much in the way of thanks, still better than the bus though!
Nissan Micra/Note/Pixo, Vauxhall Agila, Cheverolet Matiz, Suzuki Alto etc.
Not that you'll get much in the way of thanks, still better than the bus though!
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The perfect first car for all reasons; not much power so things can't go too wrong, pretty good feel and not endless amounts of grip so they can have some fun at very mundane speeds, insurance and running costs are nothing.
All my three spent at least 6 months in one of these (pea green with black plastic bumpers) when they started out and my daughter has since upgraded to the 1.2 with body coloured bumpers. I'm not at all embarrassed to say that I have actually had quite a lot of fun in it once or twice.
The perfect first car for all reasons; not much power so things can't go too wrong, pretty good feel and not endless amounts of grip so they can have some fun at very mundane speeds, insurance and running costs are nothing.
All my three spent at least 6 months in one of these (pea green with black plastic bumpers) when they started out and my daughter has since upgraded to the 1.2 with body coloured bumpers. I'm not at all embarrassed to say that I have actually had quite a lot of fun in it once or twice.
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