This will make you gasp ! Dealership wants how much .......
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WasEYEconned said:
My 730d 2008 in for an oil change,just had a call from the dealership,
"Sir the front parking light bulb needs changing,is it ok to do that ?"
How much ? Expecting him to reply a fiver sir !
That will be approx £140 plus vat !!!!
Apparently they need to take off the front bumper to replace the bulb and that will be an hour job.
Lolololololol
No it's not ok
Ha ha ha £140plus VAT. To replace a lightbulb? Name and shame to protect the future consumers of BMW products and service-providers bud "Sir the front parking light bulb needs changing,is it ok to do that ?"
How much ? Expecting him to reply a fiver sir !
That will be approx £140 plus vat !!!!
Apparently they need to take off the front bumper to replace the bulb and that will be an hour job.
Lolololololol
No it's not ok
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Devil2575 said:
Apparently you need to remove the bumper to change the headlight bulb in a Mazda 6.
I managed it the first time by removing the wheel arch liner so I could see what i had to do and now I can do it just from an open bonnet.
I think it is a legal requirement for Oem's to design headlights that can have the build. Changed with simple hand tools. For example, I think there is a requirement for room behind the light for and necessary tools.I managed it the first time by removing the wheel arch liner so I could see what i had to do and now I can do it just from an open bonnet.
I recall this because at one of the car manufacturers I worked at, we had to fudge the legal as we couldn't get the needed tool behind the light cluster to enable removal.
Liokault said:
I think it is a legal requirement for Oem's to design headlights that can have the build. Changed with simple hand tools. For example, I think there is a requirement for room behind the light for and necessary tools.
I recall this because at one of the car manufacturers I worked at, we had to fudge the legal as we couldn't get the needed tool behind the light cluster to enable removal.
It's a valid point. I recall this because at one of the car manufacturers I worked at, we had to fudge the legal as we couldn't get the needed tool behind the light cluster to enable removal.
Obviously manufacturers have spent the last couple of decades ensuring no task, however simple, can be carried out away from their franchise model.
But, not being able to change bulbs quickly and easily by the driver is a potential safety hazard.
skyrover said:
TonyHetherington said:
Unsurprisingly, they have a list of exclusions. Guess what cars are in there ![smile](/inc/images/smile.gif)
anything by renault ![smile](/inc/images/smile.gif)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXCZ2v-nIF4
What's the deal with these painful light bulb changes on some of these cars? Is it the way they are styled or is it a way of getting a 5* NCAP rating by protecting pedestrians or some such?
I've changed light bulbs a million times on older cars, unscrew the protective cap, fiddle with a few clips and done. Having to remove an arch liner or bumper would boil my wee!
I've changed light bulbs a million times on older cars, unscrew the protective cap, fiddle with a few clips and done. Having to remove an arch liner or bumper would boil my wee!
I can just about do the headlight bulbs in my wife's C3 in half an hour.... My hand usually looks like it's been attacked by a fox afterwards...
Changing the alternator was an easier job and nearly as quick on the same car!
One of my pet hates, it would be near impossible to do in the dark at the roadside with the rain belting down, which is usually when the damn things go
Changing the alternator was an easier job and nearly as quick on the same car!
One of my pet hates, it would be near impossible to do in the dark at the roadside with the rain belting down, which is usually when the damn things go
TuxMan said:
Took my Q7 into halfords for a headlight bulb change ............... 30 mins later they said they could not do it , gave me a handful of bolts and advised I took it to the main dealer ![laugh](/inc/images/laugh.gif)
That's funny. Mainly because to change ANY bulb in the headlamp on a Q7 you don't need ANY tools and it's around a 10min job. Silly Halfords. If only they had YouTube![laugh](/inc/images/laugh.gif)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-szBWQDQU0
IanA2 said:
Dr Jekyll said:
Isn't it actually illegal in some countries to be without spare bulbs? If so, why permit cars that need a mechanic and a workshop to fit the bulbs?
Very good point. Anybody got an answer?Of course one can be fined for not having all the bulbs working.
1973 Escort Mk1 Mexico. Right, whip off the two little orange-indicator lense-screws with a phillips driver and fire in a complete new bulb. Retighten. Check rubber seals - add tiny smear of silicone if necessary.
By then your missus still won't have returned to supermarket carpark yet with trolley of shopping.
True . . .
chrisw666 said:
TA14 said:
doogz said:
joewilliams said:
TA14 said:
They've done it
Yup.Take the freebie
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Maybe it didn’t need done, they fancied charging him for it, and are now back-pedalling because when he comes to pick up his car with its blown bulb, he’ll notice there’s actually nothing wrong with it, and know that they were trying it on.
So now they want to do it extra cheap/free, so he doesn’t realise?
OP just say no.
Someone is playing the game. Don't take it so personally. I don't have much doubt that the workshop manual/bulletin floating around for your model of car does advise the bumper to be removed for a headlight replacement, pulling ' The bumper needs to come off' card without reasonable backup sounds like job suicide to me otherwise. While the manual might say that the bumper has to come off, we all know that 9 times out of 10 some tech has looked that the job and gone 'Nah, I can do it without' and have it done in a few minutes. I know that, the service advisor knows that, hell, the manfacturer probably knows that but hasn't updated the process for carrying out the job for whatever reason. Of course the service advisor is going to quote book times, what on earth do you expect? They are trying to run a business, I.E trying to make the maximum amount of profit as possible.
If a warranty job takes 3 hours, but the garage can do it in 5 minutes, what do you think is charged to the person paying for the claim?
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