This will make you gasp ! Dealership wants how much .......

This will make you gasp ! Dealership wants how much .......

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SV8Predator

2,102 posts

167 months

Monday 25th November 2013
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HertsBiker said:
Recent is no more than 3 years.
Is that a new rule you've just made up by yourself?

Mr E

21,794 posts

261 months

Monday 25th November 2013
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Burer said:
What is made from? Unicorn tears?
Ultra long life stuff?

quiraing

1,649 posts

141 months

Monday 25th November 2013
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WasEYEconned said:
My 730d 2008 in for an oil change,just had a call from the dealership,

"Sir the front parking light bulb needs changing,is it ok to do that ?"
How much ? Expecting him to reply a fiver sir !
That will be approx £140 plus vat !!!!

Apparently they need to take off the front bumper to replace the bulb and that will be an hour job.

Lolololololol

No it's not ok
Ha ha ha £140plus VAT. To replace a lightbulb? Name and shame to protect the future consumers of BMW products and service-providers bud smile

IanA2

2,764 posts

164 months

Monday 25th November 2013
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Dr Jekyll said:
Isn't it actually illegal in some countries to be without spare bulbs? If so, why permit cars that need a mechanic and a workshop to fit the bulbs?
Very good point. Anybody got an answer?

Liokault

2,837 posts

216 months

Monday 25th November 2013
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Devil2575 said:
Apparently you need to remove the bumper to change the headlight bulb in a Mazda 6.

I managed it the first time by removing the wheel arch liner so I could see what i had to do and now I can do it just from an open bonnet.
I think it is a legal requirement for Oem's to design headlights that can have the build. Changed with simple hand tools. For example, I think there is a requirement for room behind the light for and necessary tools.


I recall this because at one of the car manufacturers I worked at, we had to fudge the legal as we couldn't get the needed tool behind the light cluster to enable removal.




DonkeyApple

56,362 posts

171 months

Monday 25th November 2013
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Liokault said:
I think it is a legal requirement for Oem's to design headlights that can have the build. Changed with simple hand tools. For example, I think there is a requirement for room behind the light for and necessary tools.


I recall this because at one of the car manufacturers I worked at, we had to fudge the legal as we couldn't get the needed tool behind the light cluster to enable removal.


It's a valid point.

Obviously manufacturers have spent the last couple of decades ensuring no task, however simple, can be carried out away from their franchise model.

But, not being able to change bulbs quickly and easily by the driver is a potential safety hazard.

jonnM

1,102 posts

141 months

Monday 25th November 2013
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skyrover said:
TonyHetherington said:
Unsurprisingly, they have a list of exclusions. Guess what cars are in there smile
anything by renault smile
I can see why....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXCZ2v-nIF4

V8A*ndy

3,695 posts

193 months

Monday 25th November 2013
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Take it to Halfrauds.....

Book a bulb change online laugh

hedges88

647 posts

147 months

Monday 25th November 2013
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What's the deal with these painful light bulb changes on some of these cars? Is it the way they are styled or is it a way of getting a 5* NCAP rating by protecting pedestrians or some such?

I've changed light bulbs a million times on older cars, unscrew the protective cap, fiddle with a few clips and done. Having to remove an arch liner or bumper would boil my wee!

Matt UK

17,806 posts

202 months

Monday 25th November 2013
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hedges88 said:
Having to remove an arch liner or bumper would boil my wee!
A lot use a small sliding flap in the wheel arch liner. My £6.99 at Halfords was a service and a training session! smile

village idiot

3,160 posts

269 months

Monday 25th November 2013
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berlintaxi said:
Dream on.
Sorry... £175k plus golf club membership

Jawaman

271 posts

135 months

Monday 25th November 2013
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I can just about do the headlight bulbs in my wife's C3 in half an hour.... My hand usually looks like it's been attacked by a fox afterwards...

Changing the alternator was an easier job and nearly as quick on the same car!

One of my pet hates, it would be near impossible to do in the dark at the roadside with the rain belting down, which is usually when the damn things go

TuxMan

9,010 posts

240 months

Monday 25th November 2013
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Took my Q7 into halfords for a headlight bulb change ............... 30 mins later they said they could not do it , gave me a handful of bolts and advised I took it to the main dealer laugh

northandy

3,496 posts

223 months

Monday 25th November 2013
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Some scrote pinched the tow eye cover off the front of our 1 series. Cost £35 as has to be painted individually. Price to fit? £15

It took approx 2seconds to fit by me, I guess the walking time to the car needs to be paid for.

Rich_W

12,548 posts

214 months

Monday 25th November 2013
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TuxMan said:
Took my Q7 into halfords for a headlight bulb change ............... 30 mins later they said they could not do it , gave me a handful of bolts and advised I took it to the main dealer laugh
That's funny. Mainly because to change ANY bulb in the headlamp on a Q7 you don't need ANY tools and it's around a 10min job. Silly Halfords. If only they had YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-szBWQDQU0

hdrflow

854 posts

140 months

Monday 25th November 2013
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IanA2 said:
Dr Jekyll said:
Isn't it actually illegal in some countries to be without spare bulbs? If so, why permit cars that need a mechanic and a workshop to fit the bulbs?
Very good point. Anybody got an answer?
I think is advisable to carry spare bulbs for those that can be changed easily. More uncertain if is indeed a legal requirement to actually carry a set. Or at least is what I gather from this http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice/touring_tips/.... See note 11.
Of course one can be fined for not having all the bulbs working.

quiraing

1,649 posts

141 months

Monday 25th November 2013
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1973 Escort Mk1 Mexico. Right, whip off the two little orange-indicator lense-screws with a phillips driver and fire in a complete new bulb. Retighten. Check rubber seals - add tiny smear of silicone if necessary.

By then your missus still won't have returned to supermarket carpark yet with trolley of shopping.

True . . .





k-ink

9,070 posts

181 months

Monday 25th November 2013
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Buying a modern German car means you had "Rape Me" tattoo'd to your forehead.

Thankyou4calling

10,646 posts

175 months

Monday 25th November 2013
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berlintaxi said:
Dream on.
I thought that. Where do these people pluck their figures from!

anonymous-user

56 months

Monday 25th November 2013
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chrisw666 said:
TA14 said:
doogz said:
joewilliams said:
TA14 said:
They've done it
Yup.

Take the freebie smile
Maybe I’m just extra cynical, but maybe they haven’t done it?

Maybe it didn’t need done, they fancied charging him for it, and are now back-pedalling because when he comes to pick up his car with its blown bulb, he’ll notice there’s actually nothing wrong with it, and know that they were trying it on.

So now they want to do it extra cheap/free, so he doesn’t realise?
I think you're cynical... but you may be correct.
That is very cynical, but scarily true.

OP just say no.
Can I step the cynical thinking up a notch and suggest that it is unlikely that a company with turnover in the hundreds of thousand pound bracket in a market place tat is already over crowded might not all be conspiring to rip you off for the sake of a couple of quid?

Someone is playing the game. Don't take it so personally. I don't have much doubt that the workshop manual/bulletin floating around for your model of car does advise the bumper to be removed for a headlight replacement, pulling ' The bumper needs to come off' card without reasonable backup sounds like job suicide to me otherwise. While the manual might say that the bumper has to come off, we all know that 9 times out of 10 some tech has looked that the job and gone 'Nah, I can do it without' and have it done in a few minutes. I know that, the service advisor knows that, hell, the manfacturer probably knows that but hasn't updated the process for carrying out the job for whatever reason. Of course the service advisor is going to quote book times, what on earth do you expect? They are trying to run a business, I.E trying to make the maximum amount of profit as possible.

If a warranty job takes 3 hours, but the garage can do it in 5 minutes, what do you think is charged to the person paying for the claim?