RE: Mercedes S-Class Coupe prices confirmed
Discussion
kambites said:
pSyCoSiS said:
That is seriously expensive, but suppose all of the top-end big Mercs always have been
It's almost £80k more than the M6 Gran Coupe!
Is it not a full class above the 6 series?It's almost £80k more than the M6 Gran Coupe!
Imagine on what you can spend with the difference!
Point of order chaps - anyone who thinks these cars are making their standard power figure are very much mistaken.
These high-end German V8s are often making well in excess of 630bhp now (especially BMW, as it happens), and an 2014 Audi S8 was found to be making 590bhp. So, as for the S65 V12 published power figure, I'd bet that it would be very conservative. I bet the S500 is making the same number as it's badge. Crazy!
These high-end German V8s are often making well in excess of 630bhp now (especially BMW, as it happens), and an 2014 Audi S8 was found to be making 590bhp. So, as for the S65 V12 published power figure, I'd bet that it would be very conservative. I bet the S500 is making the same number as it's badge. Crazy!
Edited by Atmospheric on Thursday 31st July 22:46
Atmospheric said:
kambites said:
pSyCoSiS said:
That is seriously expensive, but suppose all of the top-end big Mercs always have been
It's almost £80k more than the M6 Gran Coupe!
Is it not a full class above the 6 series?It's almost £80k more than the M6 Gran Coupe!
Imagine on what you can spend with the difference!
E65Ross said:
Davey S2 said:
E65Ross said:
Davey S2 said:
Staggering that ceramics are an option at this price.
Like they were on the McLaren 12C? irish boy said:
MaserBob said:
hankering for a C140 as a daily driver - difficult to find a good one though.
This chap has the best reputation in the classic merc business, click on the coming soon section and there is a c140.http://www.mtsv.co.uk/Showroom.htm
http://www.mtsv.co.uk/info/500SEPB2.htm
Atmospheric said:
Point of order chaps - anyone who thinks these cars are making their standard power figure are very much mistaken.
These high-end German V8s are often making well in excess of 630bhp now (especially BMW, as it happens), and an 2014 Audi S8 was found to be making 590bhp. So, as for the S65 V12 published power figure, I'd bet that it would be very conservative. I bet the S500 is making the same number as it's badge. Crazy!
Depends on the accuracy of testing, multiple tests on one machine could give false results as could multiple runs on different machines. These high-end German V8s are often making well in excess of 630bhp now (especially BMW, as it happens), and an 2014 Audi S8 was found to be making 590bhp. So, as for the S65 V12 published power figure, I'd bet that it would be very conservative. I bet the S500 is making the same number as it's badge. Crazy!
Edited by Atmospheric on Thursday 31st July 22:46
I'd go on the manufacturers data, the multi billion company who designed it are most likely to have the correct figures along with properly calibrated machines. Plus they'll know from calculations what the power is.
Edited by FrankUnderwood on Friday 1st August 19:11
FrankUnderwood said:
E65Ross said:
Davey S2 said:
E65Ross said:
Davey S2 said:
Staggering that ceramics are an option at this price.
Like they were on the McLaren 12C? Debaser said:
FrankUnderwood said:
E65Ross said:
Davey S2 said:
E65Ross said:
Davey S2 said:
Staggering that ceramics are an option at this price.
Like they were on the McLaren 12C? The weight difference between a good steel set up and a carbon isn't that big. The McLaren 12C's steel set up was just 600gs heavier per corner at the rear, 2.2kgs per corner at the front. You'll get differences that big with changing certain tyres.
E65Ross said:
Debaser said:
FrankUnderwood said:
E65Ross said:
Davey S2 said:
E65Ross said:
Davey S2 said:
Staggering that ceramics are an option at this price.
Like they were on the McLaren 12C? The weight difference between a good steel set up and a carbon isn't that big. The McLaren 12C's steel set up was just 600gs heavier per corner at the rear, 2.2kgs per corner at the front. You'll get differences that big with changing certain tyres.
Do you think ceramic brakes make no difference?
Debaser said:
No, not vital. If they were vital they wouldn't be optional.
Do you think ceramic brakes make no difference?
On the A34 just outside Oxford... Not really Do you think ceramic brakes make no difference?
Under extreme conditions I imagine they do, but since when do reach extreme conditions on the road?
Edited by FrankUnderwood on Friday 1st August 20:38
Debaser said:
No, not vital. If they were vital they wouldn't be optional.
Do you think ceramic brakes make no difference?
That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that for general road use in a car like this they can be the less desirable option. Poorer pedal feel with a poor initial bite, especially from cold means they aren't as nice to use in certain situations. Do you think ceramic brakes make no difference?
FrankUnderwood said:
Debaser said:
No, not vital. If they were vital they wouldn't be optional.
Do you think ceramic brakes make no difference?
On the A34 just outside Oxford... Not really Do you think ceramic brakes make no difference?
Under extreme conditions I imagine they do, but since when do reach extreme conditions on the road?
Edited by FrankUnderwood on Friday 1st August 20:38
Debaser said:
FrankUnderwood said:
Debaser said:
No, not vital. If they were vital they wouldn't be optional.
Do you think ceramic brakes make no difference?
On the A34 just outside Oxford... Not really Do you think ceramic brakes make no difference?
Under extreme conditions I imagine they do, but since when do reach extreme conditions on the road?
Edited by FrankUnderwood on Friday 1st August 20:38
FrankUnderwood said:
Debaser said:
FrankUnderwood said:
Debaser said:
No, not vital. If they were vital they wouldn't be optional.
Do you think ceramic brakes make no difference?
On the A34 just outside Oxford... Not really Do you think ceramic brakes make no difference?
Under extreme conditions I imagine they do, but since when do reach extreme conditions on the road?
Edited by FrankUnderwood on Friday 1st August 20:38
Debaser said:
Lower unsprung mass results in the chassis having less work to do to control the movement of the mass at that corner as the car drives over inputs. Higher unsprung mass is harder to control, resulting in more unwanted movement of the wheel - you'll feel this in the vehicle as a poorer ride.
Have you been in one of these? By all accounts because of the magic ride but have you been in a previous CL? The ride quality is sublime. I went in a CL63 and it was really rather nice. Brakes were fine too even from well north of 100.Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff