Will the 370z become a future classic?
Discussion
J4CKO said:
Probably, cant say I have seen any rust on a 350Z ?
I think Nissan did a bit of work on rustproofing in the thirty years between the old Datsuns and the 350Z.
The BMWs rust worse than Nissans and destroy their floors requiring extensive surgery, the Nissan is stronger.
As for Shed Territory, they are never going to drop below a grand, the market is such that they change hands for fairly decent money, anything less than four is viable for breaking for parts, a set of wheels is £600, engine £1500, etc etcthat may change but doesnt seem to have, I sold mine for what I paid for it after over two years.
Cant compare a 50k limited run M car to a 28k rank and file model, the 350Z is more comparable to the 3.0 Z4 and price wise, new, it was nearer to the 2 litre.
I quite enjoyed mine, it wasnt the last word in anything but they arent going to get any cheaper than they are now, especially seeing as petrol is cheap and looks like it will be for a while.
The "general consensus" is that Nissan's paint is very thin and that certain parts of the undercarriage are vulnerable to rust, like the W brace and mild steel exhaust. I appreciate that it's probably not going to be quite as bad a 240Z though and it was a slightly tongue in cheek comment.I think Nissan did a bit of work on rustproofing in the thirty years between the old Datsuns and the 350Z.
The BMWs rust worse than Nissans and destroy their floors requiring extensive surgery, the Nissan is stronger.
As for Shed Territory, they are never going to drop below a grand, the market is such that they change hands for fairly decent money, anything less than four is viable for breaking for parts, a set of wheels is £600, engine £1500, etc etcthat may change but doesnt seem to have, I sold mine for what I paid for it after over two years.
Cant compare a 50k limited run M car to a 28k rank and file model, the 350Z is more comparable to the 3.0 Z4 and price wise, new, it was nearer to the 2 litre.
I quite enjoyed mine, it wasnt the last word in anything but they arent going to get any cheaper than they are now, especially seeing as petrol is cheap and looks like it will be for a while.
Examples not exactly scientific as per car forum rules
Justin Case said:
No reason why it shouldn't become an established classic in a few years time, perhaps when the early ones are about 15 years old? On the other hand why should something automatically become more valuable as soon as it is recognised as a classic? The very best few will probably become more valuable, but the gap between them and the rest will just grow larger.
Agreed The problem with it being a classic any time soon is that they still make it.
There are very few about though so maybe when all "sports" cars are running high pressure 4 pot 2.0 Turbos, then people will appreciate what the 370Z is.
Dynamic Turtle said:
J4CKO said:
Probably, cant say I have seen any rust on a 350Z ?
I think Nissan did a bit of work on rustproofing in the thirty years between the old Datsuns and the 350Z.
The BMWs rust worse than Nissans and destroy their floors requiring extensive surgery, the Nissan is stronger.
As for Shed Territory, they are never going to drop below a grand, the market is such that they change hands for fairly decent money, anything less than four is viable for breaking for parts, a set of wheels is £600, engine £1500, etc etcthat may change but doesnt seem to have, I sold mine for what I paid for it after over two years.
Cant compare a 50k limited run M car to a 28k rank and file model, the 350Z is more comparable to the 3.0 Z4 and price wise, new, it was nearer to the 2 litre.
I quite enjoyed mine, it wasnt the last word in anything but they arent going to get any cheaper than they are now, especially seeing as petrol is cheap and looks like it will be for a while.
The "general consensus" is that Nissan's paint is very thin and that certain parts of the undercarriage are vulnerable to rust, like the W brace and mild steel exhaust. I appreciate that it's probably not going to be quite as bad a 240Z though and it was a slightly tongue in cheek comment.I think Nissan did a bit of work on rustproofing in the thirty years between the old Datsuns and the 350Z.
The BMWs rust worse than Nissans and destroy their floors requiring extensive surgery, the Nissan is stronger.
As for Shed Territory, they are never going to drop below a grand, the market is such that they change hands for fairly decent money, anything less than four is viable for breaking for parts, a set of wheels is £600, engine £1500, etc etcthat may change but doesnt seem to have, I sold mine for what I paid for it after over two years.
Cant compare a 50k limited run M car to a 28k rank and file model, the 350Z is more comparable to the 3.0 Z4 and price wise, new, it was nearer to the 2 litre.
I quite enjoyed mine, it wasnt the last word in anything but they arent going to get any cheaper than they are now, especially seeing as petrol is cheap and looks like it will be for a while.
Examples not exactly scientific as per car forum rules
daemon said:
On the plus side, we gave £19,900 for our 2013 9,000 mile 370z GT last year and i plugged it in to WBAC to see what they reckoned it was worth...
Looks like we're in profit!!
Jesus, that's actually pretty damn good residuals! I did take a nosey at 350z prices after reading this thread, nothing at all worth while is below £6K. When I fleetingly checked a few years ago I'm sure you were spoilt for choice around the £4k mark?Looks like we're in profit!!
Fermit The Krog said:
daemon said:
On the plus side, we gave £19,900 for our 2013 9,000 mile 370z GT last year and i plugged it in to WBAC to see what they reckoned it was worth...
Looks like we're in profit!!
Jesus, that's actually pretty damn good residuals! I did take a nosey at 350z prices after reading this thread, nothing at all worth while is below £6K. When I fleetingly checked a few years ago I'm sure you were spoilt for choice around the £4k mark?Looks like we're in profit!!
Dynamic Turtle said:
The "general consensus" is that Nissan's paint is very thin and that certain parts of the undercarriage are vulnerable to rust, like the W brace and mild steel exhaust. I appreciate that it's probably not going to be quite as bad a 240Z though and it was a slightly tongue in cheek comment.
Examples not exactly scientific as per car forum rules
The paint isnt particularly thin but its soft , common to a lot of modern Nissans , the R35 GTR has a greater reputation for rust than the 350 and 370 though. Examples not exactly scientific as per car forum rules
Exhausts are a consumable in my view and most people swap them for stainless ones anyhow. Used ones go very cheap because of this
There are companies that will sell you a powder coated W brace on an exchange basis which solves the rusting issue but used ones are about £60-£70 and new about twice that , budget on replacing them every 7 years or so , hardly a drama
I'd mention things like the 275 rear tyres only lasting 10,000 miles or the early cars (pre 2011)having gasket issues that can potentially cause significant engine issues if I were to scaremonger;)
liner33 said:
I'd mention things like the 275 rear tyres only lasting 10,000 miles or the early cars (pre 2011)having gasket issues that can potentially cause significant engine issues if I were to scaremonger;)
We got 14,000 out of the rears on our 2013 car. Theres 17K on it now, and theres probably another 2K in the fronts.Tax and fuel consumption are the main bug bears. £505 for the year from memory. Fuel consumption - well we generally use the Insignia CDTI for bigger mundane runs, unless its heading away for the weekend or something.
Cant say I have heard of many 350Z engine issues, except for a bit of oil use on 2006 cars, mine used about half a litre in 8000 miles.
I sold mine quite cheap, sold it in under a week, a convertible comign into winter as well
275 section tyres ? mine were 225 on the front and 245 on the rear, tyres are fairly cheap these days (even decent ones), think my merc is the same size as the rears on the Nissan and did all four for £424 for Pirelli P Zero Rossos, which despite the Anti Pirelli vibe on here I am finding to be excellent, but then the 350Z did have "Jinyu" tyres on it.
I sold mine quite cheap, sold it in under a week, a convertible comign into winter as well
275 section tyres ? mine were 225 on the front and 245 on the rear, tyres are fairly cheap these days (even decent ones), think my merc is the same size as the rears on the Nissan and did all four for £424 for Pirelli P Zero Rossos, which despite the Anti Pirelli vibe on here I am finding to be excellent, but then the 350Z did have "Jinyu" tyres on it.
J4CKO said:
Cant say I have heard of many 350Z engine issues, except for a bit of oil use on 2006 cars, mine used about half a litre in 8000 miles.
I sold mine quite cheap, sold it in under a week, a convertible comign into winter as well
275 section tyres ? mine were 225 on the front and 245 on the rear, tyres are fairly cheap these days (even decent ones), think my merc is the same size as the rears on the Nissan and did all four for £424 for Pirelli P Zero Rossos, which despite the Anti Pirelli vibe on here I am finding to be excellent, but then the 350Z did have "Jinyu" tyres on it.
thread is about the 370 mate, 275 tyres and same gasket issues as the 350 HR engines I sold mine quite cheap, sold it in under a week, a convertible comign into winter as well
275 section tyres ? mine were 225 on the front and 245 on the rear, tyres are fairly cheap these days (even decent ones), think my merc is the same size as the rears on the Nissan and did all four for £424 for Pirelli P Zero Rossos, which despite the Anti Pirelli vibe on here I am finding to be excellent, but then the 350Z did have "Jinyu" tyres on it.
J4CKO said:
Cant say I have heard of many 350Z engine issues, except for a bit of oil use on 2006 cars, mine used about half a litre in 8000 miles.
I sold mine quite cheap, sold it in under a week, a convertible comign into winter as well
275 section tyres ? mine were 225 on the front and 245 on the rear, tyres are fairly cheap these days (even decent ones), think my merc is the same size as the rears on the Nissan and did all four for £424 for Pirelli P Zero Rossos, which despite the Anti Pirelli vibe on here I am finding to be excellent, but then the 350Z did have "Jinyu" tyres on it.
Liner33 and I were talking about 370Zs, not 350Zs. 275/35R19 on the rear of the GTs. Roughly £180-200 a corner for a bridgestone or similar. Fronts are 245/40R19 Bridgestones are around £140-150 each, so around £700 a set. I'm using Bridgestones as a reference as thats whats factory fitted.I sold mine quite cheap, sold it in under a week, a convertible comign into winter as well
275 section tyres ? mine were 225 on the front and 245 on the rear, tyres are fairly cheap these days (even decent ones), think my merc is the same size as the rears on the Nissan and did all four for £424 for Pirelli P Zero Rossos, which despite the Anti Pirelli vibe on here I am finding to be excellent, but then the 350Z did have "Jinyu" tyres on it.
liner33 said:
daemon said:
We got 14,000 out of the rears on our 2013 car. Theres 17K on it now, and theres probably another 2K in the fronts.
Well you simply arent trying hard enough ! Must try harder in future! Oh theres a common line from my school report card days
Richyboy said:
It's in the highest tax band and drinks like a fish, surely in the UK its value will only go one way.
You would think so, but then "theoretically" big engined BMW 5 series would be worth peanuts but they're now holding on quite strongly due to rarity value and the small pocket of demand for them.Having a look around, the cheapest 3 year old 2013 GT in the UK is £22,495 on Autotrader.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2015...
Which is quite strong, bearing mind Broadspeed will sell you a brand new 2016 car for £29782.
https://broadspeed.com/new_cars/Nissan/370Z/
Also, 350Z values seem to have steadied around the £5000-£6000 mark which is quite strong for an 11 year old car.
Monty Python said:
Can't see anything about it that would make it appreciate in value
What he said. Cars that appreciate in value typically have one or more of:- Limited build number
- Motorsport heritage/link
- Cult manufacturer following
- Contemporary journalist fawning
- Notable feature(s)
I can't see that the 350Z/370Z has any of those, to be honest. As such, its price trajectory will probably follow previous modern RWD Nissan Z-body/S-body cars. None of this stops it being a good car, and I may well be wrong; but that doesn't make it a 'future classic'.
J4CKO said:
Cant say I have heard of many 350Z engine issues, except for a bit of oil use on 2006 cars, mine used about half a litre in 8000 miles.
One of the guys on the old 944 email message thing back when these cars were new had 2 dead engines. The first Nissan replaced no quibbles the second he had a hard time getting them to cough up for. This always stuck in my mind but I agree its the only time I have heard or read anywhere about these engines failing BTA I am not into either the 350 or 370 so haven't being studying em much.Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff