RE: Aston Martin DB11 vs. Porsche 911 Turbo S

[911Thrasher]

The Aston is just trying too hard in terms of design...maybe to compensate the engineering, something isn't just quite right.

Shame as back the the original Vanquish did have a great design edge to it, so did the DBS later on. Truly classics, and time is proving right.

I seriously doubt this one will be remembered as one of the greatest.

Edited by 911Thrasher on Sunday 16th October 20:48

[RobDickinson]

Spent 45 grand on bits and the Aston still looks putrid. Almost to a point where mansonry would just give up.

The porker is boring from a style point of view but it does it well.

[davidc1]

Non s turbo for me , or if I did not need rear seats , a 540c.
Aston looks rank.

[hondansx]

I saw the DB11 at Geneva and felt it looked a lot better in the flesh. Also, i found the interior really cool and was clearly made from more expensive materials than the Porsche (ignoring the Mercedes bits).

We keep saying we want more interactive, involving car other than outright pace, yet it seems we'd all make the safe choice and go 911.

[leglessAlex]

RobDown said:

Guys - just to provide a bit of balance to the comments above, can i throw this into the mix - you do know you can order the Aston Martin in different colours to suit your taste?

Indeed I'm told (and this might amaze many of the posters above who think you have to order in the press car colours) that this is indeed true of most new cars nowadays, not just Aston Martins. Heaven forbid!

Come on, you know what the posters are getting at. Of course it can be ordered in much more tasteful but why oh why would you use a car like that as advertising?!

I just don't think it gives people a very good impression of the DB11 as a whole. Sure, maybe the vast, vast majority of customers that can afford these cars won't care how they spec the odd press car but what if some are indeed put off? I dunno, I just think it's a poor decision. That said, I'm probably poorer and less qualified than the people that spec the press/advertising cars so what do I know?

[V41LEY]

£200k for an Aston of which £45k were an option pack. Wow !!
I'm not in this league but I know I can get a V8 or an early DB9 for less
than the price of the options - I know where I'm headed.
Sale of the Tiv should help offset the balance to boot.

[MrwReckless]

Simonium said:

I'm generally a fan of the aethetics of an Aston, but those front wheel arch "details" are truly appalling. What are they to impart? A sense of speed? I wonder whether you can de-specify it as it looks awful.

Are you talking about the slit behind the front wheels?

From what I recall (someone correct me if I'm wrong) it reduces and releases pressure and air from the front wheel arch and gets it flowing along the sides and then through the slots in the C-pillar for downforce. It is quite a prominent feature for airflow according to the designers so I seriously doubt it would be possible to even build the car without them without adding some sort of spoiler at the rear to regain what you lost (with added drag and fuel and CO2 and tax and blah blah blah...)

Regards

[Evilex]

£200k?
For Invacar blue, and (I quote)
"The V12 is Triumph"

So is it a Stag and-a-half or two Gt6 blocks sharing a crankcase?

Porsche for me, please.

Back in the real world, I'd still pay off the mortgage and take the kids to Disneyland first.

[daveco]

Who the hell makes the decisions in Aston Martin??



The DB11 looks more dated than the DB9, completely overstyled.

I take it they're all sold out anyway?

[saxy]

As a track weapon, the 911 will be leaps and bounds ahead. As for head turning, the Aston. As for being the better "supercar" also the Aston. It's new and the 911 is old and boring. Not a fair fight

[Tony Starks]

Actually, this is quite a good comparison. Car brands whose looks/styling doesn't really change from one incarnation to the next.

[Fetchez la vache]

I'd hazard a guess that there is a job going in the Aston Press dept - at least the one where they spec up cars. - I thought the sole aim of a press car was to have it in a desirable spec and colour so that people would drool all over it.

The only explanation i can think of was that some well oiled person left their iPad logged in and their 1 year old somehow managed to order this on line, so Aston had a daft car they didn't know what to do with.

[aeropilot]

V41LEY said:

£200k for an Aston of which £45k were an option pack. Wow !!

That did raise an eyebrow from me as well........and out of curiosity, I played the configurator game on the Porsche website, and even getting carried away ticking options including quite a few of the leather covered interior bits on a Turbo S, I still ended up only a few quid north of 150k.....

I've been an Aston 'fan' since a kid, but I'd take the Porker I'm afraid if I was in that sort of market for an expensive mental sports/GT car.

Mind you for the same money I'd rather have a nice comfy daily, and spend 100k on a 'vintage' Porker for the weekend

[Matt Bird]

OldBob said:

"There was no track element to this test because, frankly, who is going to take them on circuit?"

We've tracked ours and it is stunning. That too is the good thing about the 911 - tracked it hard all day really competitively and then pootled home without an issue.

Just as well they didn't compare - I reckon the 911 would kill it on track.


BTW I think the Aston kills the 911 for looks....

Edited by OldBob on Sunday 16th October 18:06

Fair point, nice to see somebody does! I agree with you in fact, reckon the 911 would be quickest. As it would be in most comparisons!

[Matt Bird]

Evilex said:

£200k?
For Invacar blue, and (I quote)
"The V12 is Triumph"

So is it a Stag and-a-half or two Gt6 blocks sharing a crankcase?

Porsche for me, please.

Back in the real world, I'd still pay off the mortgage and take the kids to Disneyland first.

Apologies for the error, that's been addressed now. Definitely a new engine though!

[Smokin Donut]

Astons steering wheel
The porsche interior may be a bit dull but it's a lovely place to be.

[Rawwr]

For me, the elegance of Aston Martin died a few years back. I know it's ridiculous but every time someone spouts the "Shall we take the Aston, darling?" line as a reason for getting one, it makes me want to choke on my own inadequacy.

I just don't think they're understated cool anymore. They're a bit try hard and whenever I see one, I get this feeling that the driver believes he's on a shoot for GQ with a chunky scarf matched to a Huge Boss suit. Mate that image with a cherished plate featuring 'SPY' in it somewhere and I have an overwhelming urge to buy napalm.

I have a lot of issues.

[aeropilot]

Rawwr said:

For me, the elegance of Aston Martin died a few years back. I know it's ridiculous but every time someone spouts the "Shall we take the Aston, darling?" line as a reason for getting one, it makes me want to choke on my own inadequacy.

I just don't think they're understated cool anymore. They're a bit try hard and whenever I see one, I get this feeling that the driver believes he's on a shoot for GQ with a chunky scarf matched to a Huge Boss suit. Mate that image with a cherished plate featuring 'SPY' in it somewhere and I have an overwhelming urge to buy napalm.

I have a lot of issues.

I think we share the same issues.....

[NIK W]

I'll take the Porsche thank you,at least it will still be in 1 piece in 5 years time....

[moffat]

I think this is the worst looking Aston since the Lagonda, terrible looking made even worse by the Premier league footballer colours.

Terrible.


I love the 911 Turbo S, but as with all modern 911's a bit boring to look at. AMG GT R for me... (if I could afford one )