RE: New Swift Sport images!

[ClockworkCupcake]

cuprabob said:

IMO, 3 door hatches tend to look better than their 5 door counterparts.

I agree.

Of course they aren't as practical as a 5-door, especially if you carry rear seat passengers more than once in a blue moon. But they just look so much better. IMHO of course.

The hidden rear doors of a 5-door pretending to be a 3-door simply confirm this.

[gweaver]

r11co said:

Nope. That's the previous generation Astra. I'm talking about the black trim connecting the side and rear windows...

I stand corrected, and I give you the 2015 Nissan Murano.



Wikipedia says it was unveiled five months before the Astra. Either way, I think it's a horrible and contagious pox on car design that will prematurely date those cars afflicted.
At least the variant on the Swift is less nasty than on many other cars.

[carl_w]

gweaver said:

r11co said:

Nope. That's the previous generation Astra. I'm talking about the black trim connecting the side and rear windows...

I stand corrected, and I give you the 2015 Nissan Murano.



Wikipedia says it was unveiled five months before the Astra. Either way, I think it's a horrible and contagious pox on car design that will prematurely date those cars afflicted.
At least the variant on the Swift is less nasty than on many other cars.

With the black 'A' pillars, is the Swift not a 'floating roof'?

[DegsyE39]

Fugly as!

[r11co]

gweaver said:

I stand corrected, and I give you the 2015 Nissan Murano.

I knew I'd seen it somewhere else!

Hyundai are doing it with the latest i20 too, although on theirs it looks like an afterthought...

[JTN358AT]

Not keen on the looks myself. It would need to be an amazing drive to make me want it. I' ve been looking for a replacement for my Ignis Sport for a while and hoped that this might be it. I've seen the new Swift on the road and don't like the looks of it, certainly not compared to the old one. The previous generation Swift Sport is now a bargain used, so I think I'll go for that.

[Mr2Mike]

r11co said:

Just bought a very tidy two-and-a-half year-old 10k miler 5 door of the previous generation for a song. An impressive car in every way.

What sort of fuel consumption are you getting? Been agonising over getting a 2-3 year old sport, but everything I've read suggests that I probably won't see much improvement over my Type R Civic (33-35mpg)

JTN358AT said:

Not keen on the looks myself. It would need to be an amazing drive to make me want it. I' ve been looking for a replacement for my Ignis Sport for a while and hoped that this might be it

I quite like the styling on the new Ignis tbh, but no performance variant for some reason.

Edited by Mr2Mike on Saturday 5th August 15:21

[Rawwr]

The front-end looks like a Focus ST tried to squeeze through a cat-flap and got stuck.

[Blayney]

gweaver said:

I stand corrected, and I give you the 2015 Nissan Murano.



Wikipedia says it was unveiled five months before the Astra. Either way, I think it's a horrible and contagious pox on car design that will prematurely date those cars afflicted.
At least the variant on the Swift is less nasty than on many other cars.

First car I noticed it on was the XJ. I thought it looked awful on that in 2009.

[gweaver]

Mr2Mike said:

What sort of fuel consumption are you getting? Been agonising over getting a 2-3 year old sport, but everything I've read suggests that I probably won't see much improvement over my Type R Civic (33-35mpg)

I'm averaging over 40mpg (brim to brim) in mine. Worst I've seen is 37mpg, best was over 50mpg (that was a challenge). I think 35-40 mpg is typical amongst other owners. If you're able to get 33-35 from a CTR, I'd imagine you'd manage 40mpg in the Swift.

[Dazed and Confused]

5 door?

No thanks.

[Mr2Mike]

gweaver said:

I'm averaging over 40mpg (brim to brim) in mine. Worst I've seen is 37mpg, best was over 50mpg (that was a challenge). I think 35-40 mpg is typical amongst other owners. If you're able to get 33-35 from a CTR, I'd imagine you'd manage 40mpg in the Swift.

Thanks, 40mpg would be great. I did get that from the CTR once, but it was the most tedious week of commuting I've ever suffered

I know it's not the sort of car you choose for economy, but I do about 15k/year and want a small car that isn't a diesel and has reasonable performance. I was wondering if I could put up with the 1.2 but would much prefer the sport.

[mnx42]

Mr2Mike said:

gweaver said:

I'm averaging over 40mpg (brim to brim) in mine. Worst I've seen is 37mpg, best was over 50mpg (that was a challenge). I think 35-40 mpg is typical amongst other owners. If you're able to get 33-35 from a CTR, I'd imagine you'd manage 40mpg in the Swift.

Thanks, 40mpg would be great. I did get that from the CTR once, but it was the most tedious week of commuting I've ever suffered

I know it's not the sort of car you choose for economy, but I do about 15k/year and want a small car that isn't a diesel and has reasonable performance. I was wondering if I could put up with the 1.2 but would much prefer the sport.

I do around 25K miles a year in my Mk2, mixed driving. I average 42mpg.

[Mr2Mike]

mnx42 said:

I do around 25K miles a year in my Mk2, mixed driving. I average 42mpg.

Thanks, will start looking in earnest now then.

[horsemeatscandal]

Mr2Mike said:

Thanks, 40mpg would be great. I did get that from the CTR once, but it was the most tedious week of commuting I've ever suffered

I know it's not the sort of car you choose for economy, but I do about 15k/year and want a small car that isn't a diesel and has reasonable performance. I was wondering if I could put up with the 1.2 but would much prefer the sport.

Mine gets 48+ mpg according to the computer. Short commute and <4 mile trips to shops, friends, gym, etc. Normal driving. Girlfriend's 1.2 gets about 52 but she drives very..... inefficiently.

Engine doesn't seem to care what style of driving you choose though, mpg never seems to move. Actually went up after a blast up Hartside Pass.

[Mercury00]

I'd like the option of an automatic. I've had both previous Swift Sports, and sold my '14 SS because of the ste gearbox and the fact my left knee is borked and keeps locking. I still want to enjoy driving, so I hope they give us spastics the choice of an auto. In Japan and Australia they have a CVT version, which I'd be very happy with - I currently drive a CVT and like it.

[gweaver]

Mr2Mike said:

I was wondering if I could put up with the 1.2 but would much prefer the sport.

The 1.2 is apparently a sweet engine, and frugal. It likes revs and needs revs, so that might play to the James Hunt A35 van driving philosophy. It doesn't have the steering feel or motorway refinement of the Sport though.

They made a lot of changes when they developed the Sport - see the press pack for info. That attention to detail was definitely a factor in my decision to buy the Sport over rivals.

[gweaver]

horsemeatscandal said:

Mine gets 48+ mpg according to the computer.

The computer is well known for being wildly optimistic. 48+ is typical for me too, but when I do the brim to brim calculation that usually equates to around 40 mpg. Most I've seen on the computer is 62.8 mpg, but the brim to brim figure was just over 52 mpg.

[Loyly]

Mercury00 said:

I'd like the option of an automatic. I've had both previous Swift Sports, and sold my '14 SS because of the ste gearbox and the fact my left knee is borked and keeps locking. I still want to enjoy driving, so I hope they give us spastics the choice of an auto. In Japan and Australia they have a CVT version, which I'd be very happy with - I currently drive a CVT and like it.

I like CVT's but I don't think I'd want one in a performance car, even if the can be very effective for making quick progress.

[horsemeatscandal]

gweaver said:

The computer is well known for being wildly optimistic. 48+ is typical for me too, but when I do the brim to brim calculation that usually equates to around 40 mpg. Most I've seen on the computer is 62.8 mpg, but the brim to brim figure was just over 52 mpg.

That's why I specified that it was a computer measurement. So far not bothered to measure it properly. Full tank lasts as long as it did in my Civic which has a tank 13 litres bigger. Winner.