MOT exemption for classics ?
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catso said:
AFAIK it's the original one supplied when the car was new in 1978 - not sure if it's actually called a 'V5' or something else though? IIRC it's just a one page document.
So it's not been re-issued since the original reissue with the change to V5Cs in 2001, then the complete re-issue in 2011.I'm very surprised the plate still shows up on the online checkers.
TooMany2cvs said:
So it's not been re-issued since the original reissue with the change to V5Cs in 2001, then the complete re-issue in 2011.
I'm very surprised the plate still shows up on the online checkers.
Me too, I'm sure he didn't do anything after it was scrapped - it's not like it was a valuable/collectable car in any way.I'm very surprised the plate still shows up on the online checkers.
I just typed in the number when I was browsing the Gov. site and was amazed that a 1978 car, last taxed in 1984 would be on there, along with it's vital statistics.
Wonder if the reg. no. could be transferred? Especially as, from January 2018, it will be MOT exempt...
TooMany2cvs said:
catso said:
I'm surprised DVLA don't try to 'clean up' the database of old vehicles, maybe write to last known keeper?
They have done. Whenever they've issued new-style V5Cs (a few times in the last decade or so), they've only done so to those cars that have been taxed or SORNed in the last year or two. If you've got something that hasn't been on the road since before SORN in 98, so didn't need SORNing, then you've needed to request a new-style V5C, and they've (eventually) removed the old one from the record.I think the issue is that the MOT is no longer a test of how safe a car is to be on the road, more a test of whether it conforms to rules and regulations.
What we need is a classic car (40yrs plus) test which looks at basic safety issues, suspension tyres brakes etc. and has to be done at least every 3 years.
What we need is a classic car (40yrs plus) test which looks at basic safety issues, suspension tyres brakes etc. and has to be done at least every 3 years.
hornmeister said:
I think the issue is that the MOT is no longer a test of how safe a car is to be on the road, more a test of whether it conforms to rules and regulations.
What we need is a classic car (40yrs plus) test which looks at basic safety issues, suspension tyres brakes etc. and has to be done at least every 3 years.
Read the government response to the consultation. It's already been linked in this thread.What we need is a classic car (40yrs plus) test which looks at basic safety issues, suspension tyres brakes etc. and has to be done at least every 3 years.
Bradley1500 said:
How will this work with imported cars?
In exactly the same way as every other date issue works with used imports...Bradley1500 said:
My Trans Am is a 1978 car so should be MOT exempt next year, but as it wasn’t registered here until 2011 when it was imported, will this affect its MOT status?
No, it might have been first registered in the UK in 2011, but it was first registered in 1978. Look at your V5C.TooMany2cvs said:
Bradley1500 said:
How will this work with imported cars?
In exactly the same way as every other date issue works with used imports...Bradley1500 said:
My Trans Am is a 1978 car so should be MOT exempt next year, but as it wasn’t registered here until 2011 when it was imported, will this affect its MOT status?
No, it might have been first registered in the UK in 2011, but it was first registered in 1978. Look at your V5C.hornmeister said:
TooMany2cvs said:
Read the government response to the consultation. It's already been linked in this thread.
Read it.Nothing about my suggestion to have a road safety test for 40 year classic though?
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploa...
hornmeister said:
It's not really what I'm proposing though.
I'm suggesting a light use classic MOT compulsory for 40+ cars.
I'm failing to see how that differs from...I'm suggesting a light use classic MOT compulsory for 40+ cars.
That consultation doc said:
Introduction of a Basic ‘VHI’ Roadworthiness Test – (either annual or biennial) for 40 Year Old Vehicles
15. In total 1,125 respondents supported the introduction of a basic vehicle roadworthiness test on an annual or biannual basis. It was suggested this test should only include a check of the vehicle’s identity, brakes, steering, tyres and lights. However, many respondents including those who were in favour of the introduction of such a test said that other items should be included. Checks on the structural integrity of vehicles and for corrosion were the main suggestions for other items to be checked. The inclusion of these items would alter the proposed basic test to something very close to the MOT so there seems to be little benefit from requiring such a test instead of an MOT.
16. We have decided not to proceed with this proposal. Those owners who feel an annual check is needed will be able to submit their vehicles for a voluntary MOT.
Maybe it's me being a bit slow. Perhaps you could explain the difference between your "light use classic MOT" and that "basic vehicle roadworthiness test"...?15. In total 1,125 respondents supported the introduction of a basic vehicle roadworthiness test on an annual or biannual basis. It was suggested this test should only include a check of the vehicle’s identity, brakes, steering, tyres and lights. However, many respondents including those who were in favour of the introduction of such a test said that other items should be included. Checks on the structural integrity of vehicles and for corrosion were the main suggestions for other items to be checked. The inclusion of these items would alter the proposed basic test to something very close to the MOT so there seems to be little benefit from requiring such a test instead of an MOT.
16. We have decided not to proceed with this proposal. Those owners who feel an annual check is needed will be able to submit their vehicles for a voluntary MOT.
hornmeister said:
I think the issue is that the MOT is no longer a test of how safe a car is to be on the road, more a test of whether it conforms to rules and regulations.
Why do you think the majority of those rules and regulations were written in the first place, just to be a pain in the ass for owners of old cars? Which parts of the current MOT test would you like to see dropped for a 40 YO classic? Lighting, brakes, suspension/steering, tyres, structural corrosion?I can't see insurance companies being happy about insuring a 40+ vehicle without some tangible proof that its fit for the road, so either way, some form of test will be needed I think, but that's not up to the government to enforce.
The best bit though is not having to run to an MOT date deadline, ..as long as its done, just do it at a time that suits!
The best bit though is not having to run to an MOT date deadline, ..as long as its done, just do it at a time that suits!
steveL98 said:
Yes but they're really old and aren't used much..
Try a '77 XJS potentially used as a daily
<raises eyebrows>Try a '77 XJS potentially used as a daily
I'm really not sure that's the best illustration you could have picked, but...
Let's go with a '77 Mini, perhaps...
steveL98 said:
and about to cause carnage with rusted out suspension mounts and brakes etc.. It'll only take one incident.
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