Escort Cosworth - Focus RS

Escort Cosworth - Focus RS

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markcoznottz

7,155 posts

226 months

Thursday 5th October 2017
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J4CKO said:
I like the look of the Escos but you just know its a bit lame these days, its more a state of mind than a car, boyhood dream fulfilled but likely a huge disappointment to drive like the Sapphire Cosworth I drove, that said its currently a better place to put 35k than a new MK3 Focus RS.

The Focus RS has its haters, am sure it isnt perfect, but then neither was the Escort Cosworth when it was introduced, nostalgia is a powerful and dangerous thing, but I guess it doesnt matter so much if there are enough similarly afflicted people keeping the prices daft.

The thing is, currently the FRS has lost its hype and there are plenty around for reasonable money, everyone saying they would rather have a MK2 or MK1, so prices of those have gone up, there was a time they were plentiful and cheap, its a lifecycle pattern that gets applied all the time, wait 2 or 3 years, get a mk3 at the low point, then watch it go back up like the two did, try to see past the current conceived view.

You can pay 20, 30 or even 40 grand for a MK3 Escort RS Turbo which amazes me, they were alright but by god you would have to be keen to pay that !



Tuned sapphire loads more fun than the escos, more lively being rear wheel drive, much more hooligan, plus muscle car gearbox adds drama.

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

236 months

Friday 6th October 2017
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Ahbefive said:
200Plus Club said:
35k will get you some seriously quick and impressive metal so unless you are a die hard Ford RS fanboy go try some other stuff (GTR, 911, R8 just) etc etc
Can you get any of those cars with 5 year warranty and that do 30mpg with 5doors?

Apples and Oranges.
Given he is considering an old Escort, I don't think it is a concern.

But yes, far more interesting stuff available for £35k than either TBH.

If you want an all round hatchback then the Focus is OK.

InitialDave

11,988 posts

121 months

Friday 6th October 2017
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Assuming it has to be one or the other, probably the Escort. If I decide it's rubbish, at least it's probably something of an investment.

Or I can use the insurance money to buy a Focus when it inevitably gets stolen.

Robmarriott

2,641 posts

160 months

Friday 6th October 2017
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I'd buy the Escort, without a doubt, it'll go up in value and the Mk3 will definitely not.

The Focus would be a much better car to live with though.

kmpowell

2,961 posts

230 months

Friday 6th October 2017
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Neither - I'd have a 3dr Sierra Cosworth, in Moonstone.

culpz

4,892 posts

114 months

Friday 6th October 2017
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I never really got into the Escort Cosworth's tbh. That's sacrilege to many, i know. So, for me, It'd be the Focus RS.

200Plus Club

10,838 posts

280 months

Friday 6th October 2017
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I'm currently looking for an Alfa 105 step front like this, £35k is doable. Now tell me which looks better, cossie, RS or this?
Every budget these days has lots of exciting potential if you are after something to hold its value or even go up perhaps!

200Plus Club

10,838 posts

280 months

Friday 6th October 2017
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Apologies if I inadvertently closed this thread lol

J4CKO

41,762 posts

202 months

Friday 6th October 2017
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kmpowell said:
Neither - I'd have a 3dr Sierra Cosworth, in Moonstone.
I still go weak at the knees when i see one and moonstone is the best colour, its a reaction from when I was 13 or 14 I cant help, its burnt in now, even though I know it would be a huge sum of money and probably a bit rubbish compared to whatever else I could buy.

Rawwr

22,722 posts

236 months

Friday 6th October 2017
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HumanDoing said:
100% Cosworth. Based on recent reports it's probably more reliable than the MK3 RS anyway plus will have cost you less when/if you come to flog it.
Well this has come as a huge shock to all of us.

Leins

9,504 posts

150 months

Friday 6th October 2017
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Toyoda

1,557 posts

102 months

Friday 6th October 2017
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J4CKO said:
I still go weak at the knees when i see one and moonstone is the best colour, its a reaction from when I was 13 or 14 I cant help, its burnt in now, even though I know it would be a huge sum of money and probably a bit rubbish compared to whatever else I could buy .
Same here with regards to both the Sierra and the Escort Cosworths, less so the Saph. If you grew up drooling over these when car shows like Doncaster were in their heyday than it's had not to spend the rest of your life lusting after one. I still get a twinge of excitement when I see one on the road. Can't say the same for any of Ford's recent RS offerings. Nevertheless, maybe the youth of today will be getting all hot under the collar about the mk3 focus RS in 20 years time, who knows?!

200Plus Club

10,838 posts

280 months

Friday 6th October 2017
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Toyoda said:
J4CKO said:
I still go weak at the knees when i see one and moonstone is the best colour, its a reaction from when I was 13 or 14 I cant help, its burnt in now, even though I know it would be a huge sum of money and probably a bit rubbish compared to whatever else I could buy .
Same here with regards to both the Sierra and the Escort Cosworths, less so the Saph. If you grew up drooling over these when car shows like Doncaster were in their heyday than it's had not to spend the rest of your life lusting after one. I still get a twinge of excitement when I see one on the road. Can't say the same for any of Ford's recent RS offerings. Nevertheless, maybe the youth of today will be getting all hot under the collar about the mk3 focus RS in 20 years time, who knows?!
i can still remember people gasping at york dragway when Rusty ran his cosworth Capril 4x4 up the strip in 12s dead at 120mph. it was astonishing that cossy powered cars could be made to go so fast, you'd often see 12s cossies driving to and from the event, no worries whatsoever. everyone else was knocking about in 205 gtis and the like, or cavalier SRI's !

nowadays the Youth are all supercar and GTR fanboys, and no one looks twice at a 9s 1/4m car lol

lucido grigio

44,044 posts

165 months

Friday 6th October 2017
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Here's the one I spotted in Italy May 2016,the Italian version of Monte.

A bit sorry for itself,at a body shop with bits removed .

s m

23,306 posts

205 months

Friday 6th October 2017
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Leins said:
That's it Leins - Imperial Blue though

The white one looked good though against the contrast of the black Delta/GT4 / Italian sun in the Cironi clip

sc0tt

18,057 posts

203 months

Friday 6th October 2017
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Gad-Westy

14,671 posts

215 months

Friday 6th October 2017
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David87 said:
I would say the Focus, but I'd be concerned about the engine exploding and WBAC offering me £5 for it. wink
Keeping seeing this mentioned. What did I miss?

Leins

9,504 posts

150 months

Friday 6th October 2017
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s m said:
That's it Leins - Imperial Blue though

The white one looked good though against the contrast of the black Delta/GT4 / Italian sun in the Cironi clip
Very much so, and do like a GT4 too, despite them not being anyway near as desirable as the other two right now

OT, but his vids are excellent

mac96

3,849 posts

145 months

Friday 6th October 2017
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200Plus Club said:


I'm currently looking for an Alfa 105 step front like this, £35k is doable. Now tell me which looks better, cossie, RS or this?
Every budget these days has lots of exciting potential if you are after something to hold its value or even go up perhaps!
And that is definitely the right answer, even if to a slightly different question!

Rawwr

22,722 posts

236 months

Friday 6th October 2017
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sc0tt said:
'All original', except the awful chavesque headlights.