RE: Audi R8 Spyder V10 Plus vs McLaren 570S Spider
Discussion
That R8 look great in that green/tan leather combo IMO 
The 570S all day long for me if I were able (I am not), it might be a touch harder to live than the R8 but I can deal with that - what a machine, that option list though, surely that's well in to 720S territory? I appreciate that those can be optioned up too but feck me, they've splashed some cash on some right crap there IMO, poke your carbon tid bits
The 570S all day long for me if I were able (I am not), it might be a touch harder to live than the R8 but I can deal with that - what a machine, that option list though, surely that's well in to 720S territory? I appreciate that those can be optioned up too but feck me, they've splashed some cash on some right crap there IMO, poke your carbon tid bits
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difference in weight these two cars can only compare on paper but never when driven.Too brands that have a similar cold mechanical soullessness about them for me. When I think of McLaren's I think of men in McLaren branded racing shoes and McLaren branded jackets hanging around wet windswept circuits somewhere with other men in McLaren branded racing shoes and McLaren branded jackets. They're like the Suburu Imprezza's of the supercar world. When I think of a Lamborghini or a Ferrari I think jeans, T-shirt, jeans, empty road, no one else around, go. Something very different.
Sine Metu said:
Too brands that have a similar cold mechanical soullessness about them for me. When I think of McLaren's I think of men in McLaren branded racing shoes and McLaren branded jackets hanging around wet windswept circuits somewhere with other men in McLaren branded racing shoes and McLaren branded jackets. They're like the Suburu Imprezza's of the supercar world. When I think of a Lamborghini or a Ferrari I think jeans, T-shirt, jeans, empty road, no one else around, go. Something very different.
Mate, you need to get yourself to a Ferrari corporate event, The branding and marketing could not be more in your face. As for McLaren, if you get a chance get yourself invited to their annual employees car show, a less fomal and more diverse range of cars your are unlikely to find anywhere. Dont judge the whole company by Ron Dennis standardsI'm a lurker on PH and have posted very little. (too much time getting beaten up on SELOC) however I'll come out in support of Nic.
I think it's a nice read and not the usual trite, simplified, repetitive prose. He's being original at least and I for one rather enjoyed it!
McLaren for me - I love Lotus and a good many of the reviews suggest it has Lotus like handling and feel. I struggle with the looks a bit but that's personal. If it's a kinda Lotus supercar, well bonus. Agree also that if I'm buying a supercar the brand is important - "what's your new car?" 'an Audi."
If you then have to go on and explain it's the expensive/sporty one, well...
Cheers
I think it's a nice read and not the usual trite, simplified, repetitive prose. He's being original at least and I for one rather enjoyed it!
McLaren for me - I love Lotus and a good many of the reviews suggest it has Lotus like handling and feel. I struggle with the looks a bit but that's personal. If it's a kinda Lotus supercar, well bonus. Agree also that if I'm buying a supercar the brand is important - "what's your new car?" 'an Audi."
If you then have to go on and explain it's the expensive/sporty one, well...
Cheers
Streetrod said:
Sine Metu said:
Too brands that have a similar cold mechanical soullessness about them for me. When I think of McLaren's I think of men in McLaren branded racing shoes and McLaren branded jackets hanging around wet windswept circuits somewhere with other men in McLaren branded racing shoes and McLaren branded jackets. They're like the Suburu Imprezza's of the supercar world. When I think of a Lamborghini or a Ferrari I think jeans, T-shirt, jeans, empty road, no one else around, go. Something very different.
Mate, you need to get yourself to a Ferrari corporate event, The branding and marketing could not be more in your face. As for McLaren, if you get a chance get yourself invited to their annual employees car show, a less fomal and more diverse range of cars your are unlikely to find anywhere. Dont judge the whole company by Ron Dennis standards
Lovely green and I do like the Audi. Such a rare car because if the price point.
The mac is a lovely thing although the basic interior without all those options is not as nice as even a 2011 12c
The mac is the master of carbon fibre options list ! That demo car is one to look out for second hand !
The mac is a lovely thing although the basic interior without all those options is not as nice as even a 2011 12c
The mac is the master of carbon fibre options list ! That demo car is one to look out for second hand !
Lotusgav said:
I'm a lurker on PH and have posted very little. (too much time getting beaten up on SELOC) however I'll come out in support of Nic.
I think it's a nice read and not the usual trite, simplified, repetitive prose. He's being original at least and I for one rather enjoyed it!
It probably says more about me than the author, but I found it quite difficult to read. I think it's a nice read and not the usual trite, simplified, repetitive prose. He's being original at least and I for one rather enjoyed it!
McLaren for me by the way.
I am in the market for one of these two (also considering a 911TT or possibly a GT3) in early 2018. I couldn’t give a stuff about brand image, I don’t feel that being able to say I drive a McLaren/Audi/Porsche will have any impact on my wellbeing or happiness.
At the moment, the R8 is leading for me, purely for the engine alone. My last 3 cars have been modern turbos and the weekend I had with the R8 just reminded me that a high-reviving N/A motor adds so much to the experience of driving. Yes, it may lose out on speed in the mid range, but both these cars are more than fast enough (unless you are into bragging rights and just need the fastest).
The 570 is a lovely car, but I strangely lust more for the R8 driving experience. The fact that I can park it in Sainsbury’s and use it for taking the daughter to school without the show of the McLaren doors is another big positive for me.
At the moment, the R8 is leading for me, purely for the engine alone. My last 3 cars have been modern turbos and the weekend I had with the R8 just reminded me that a high-reviving N/A motor adds so much to the experience of driving. Yes, it may lose out on speed in the mid range, but both these cars are more than fast enough (unless you are into bragging rights and just need the fastest).
The 570 is a lovely car, but I strangely lust more for the R8 driving experience. The fact that I can park it in Sainsbury’s and use it for taking the daughter to school without the show of the McLaren doors is another big positive for me.
DB77 said:
I am in the market for one of these two (also considering a 911TT or possibly a GT3) in early 2018. I couldn’t give a stuff about brand image, I don’t feel that being able to say I drive a McLaren/Audi/Porsche will have any impact on my wellbeing or happiness.
Thank goodness for that!! The amount of badge snobbery on the thread is quite incredible. Back on the article - the R8 has an infinitely better engine but is giving up a heck of a lot of weight to the 570. Tricky one to decide between the 2 I reckon.
isaldiri said:
DB77 said:
I am in the market for one of these two (also considering a 911TT or possibly a GT3) in early 2018. I couldn’t give a stuff about brand image, I don’t feel that being able to say I drive a McLaren/Audi/Porsche will have any impact on my wellbeing or happiness.
Thank goodness for that!! The amount of badge snobbery on the thread is quite incredible. Back on the article - the R8 has an infinitely better engine but is giving up a heck of a lot of weight to the 570. Tricky one to decide between the 2 I reckon.
Oh and to whoever it was who couldn't understand why the car would have large grilles at the front for cooling when the engine is in the middle...where do you think the radiators are?
My 570s spider arrived ten days ago to replace a 540c so I naturally have a biased view.
I would agree with the article as to the relative merits of each car. The Audi’s standout feature is the engine, the McLaren’s is the feel.
I don’t subscribe to the one badge is “better” than the other view. That said I, and this is just my own views based on my own preferences, absolutely love the history of the McLaren marque, the links to Button, Hakkinen,Senna, Prost, Lauda, Hunt etc all chime with my era of watching F1. I love, that like Ferrari I admit, McLaren is a racing team turned road manufacturer. I love the fact that my 570s brochure from Goodwood is signed by Ron Dennis who I met at the customer area at Goodwood, and that Mika Hakinnen sat down and talked to my Dad to tell him about the car as I was looking at it. F1 teams affiliations are a. It like football tribalistic and nonsensical in many ways but to me it feels amazing that I own a car built by the same company whose cars I have followed since I was about 8years old.
All sentiment aside and on a more practical note one thing that the review doesn’t pick up is that the Audi is significantly compromised internally vs the tin top version owing to the longer rear deck and bulkhead for the roof. I’m 6ft 1and when I went to test drive the car could not get into a comfortable position as the seat rails do not go as far back as in the coupe. The Huracan suffers the same problem meaning both cars are off the agenda for 6footers unless you are happy to drive with permanently bent legs.
I would agree with the article as to the relative merits of each car. The Audi’s standout feature is the engine, the McLaren’s is the feel.
I don’t subscribe to the one badge is “better” than the other view. That said I, and this is just my own views based on my own preferences, absolutely love the history of the McLaren marque, the links to Button, Hakkinen,Senna, Prost, Lauda, Hunt etc all chime with my era of watching F1. I love, that like Ferrari I admit, McLaren is a racing team turned road manufacturer. I love the fact that my 570s brochure from Goodwood is signed by Ron Dennis who I met at the customer area at Goodwood, and that Mika Hakinnen sat down and talked to my Dad to tell him about the car as I was looking at it. F1 teams affiliations are a. It like football tribalistic and nonsensical in many ways but to me it feels amazing that I own a car built by the same company whose cars I have followed since I was about 8years old.
All sentiment aside and on a more practical note one thing that the review doesn’t pick up is that the Audi is significantly compromised internally vs the tin top version owing to the longer rear deck and bulkhead for the roof. I’m 6ft 1and when I went to test drive the car could not get into a comfortable position as the seat rails do not go as far back as in the coupe. The Huracan suffers the same problem meaning both cars are off the agenda for 6footers unless you are happy to drive with permanently bent legs.
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All sentiment aside and on a more practical note one thing that the review doesn’t pick up is that the Audi is significantly compromised internally vs the tin top version owing to the longer rear deck and bulkhead for the roof. I’m 6ft 1and when I went to test drive the car could not get into a comfortable position as the seat rails do not go as far back as in the coupe. The Huracan suffers the same problem meaning both cars are off the agenda for 6footers unless you are happy to drive with permanently bent legs.
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This, I am 6ft 2in and even in the coupe version fo the R8 and Huracan which are basically the same car it is very difficult to get a comfortable driving position. When you switch to the spider it becomes a bit of a joke. In both cars, the backrest is almost vertical with the seat pushed back as far as it can go and you are still left with little leg room. The worst bit is that my head sits above the windscreen header rail so with the roof closed you have to slouch or cant your head to one side to stop it hitting the roof. Not good
All sentiment aside and on a more practical note one thing that the review doesn’t pick up is that the Audi is significantly compromised internally vs the tin top version owing to the longer rear deck and bulkhead for the roof. I’m 6ft 1and when I went to test drive the car could not get into a comfortable position as the seat rails do not go as far back as in the coupe. The Huracan suffers the same problem meaning both cars are off the agenda for 6footers unless you are happy to drive with permanently bent legs.
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This, I am 6ft 2in and even in the coupe version fo the R8 and Huracan which are basically the same car it is very difficult to get a comfortable driving position. When you switch to the spider it becomes a bit of a joke. In both cars, the backrest is almost vertical with the seat pushed back as far as it can go and you are still left with little leg room. The worst bit is that my head sits above the windscreen header rail so with the roof closed you have to slouch or cant your head to one side to stop it hitting the roof. Not good
RSK21 said:
All sentiment aside and on a more practical note one thing that the review doesn’t pick up is that the Audi is significantly compromised internally vs the tin top version owing to the longer rear deck and bulkhead for the roof. I’m 6ft 1and when I went to test drive the car could not get into a comfortable position as the seat rails do not go as far back as in the coupe. The Huracan suffers the same problem meaning both cars are off the agenda for 6footers unless you are happy to drive with permanently bent legs.
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