RE: Audi Q7 V12 TDI: PH Heroes

[Ahonen]

AC43 said:

I heard and smelt the race version at Goodwood the first year it won Me Mans. It sounded awful and created vast clouds of rank black smoke. A technical dead end. Thankfully.

It didn't create any vast clouds of black smoke when it was racing, so you may be mistaken.

[MrAverage]

I love anything with a silly engine and this is no exception. Diesels don't particularly do much for me (D-Rod aside) but something like this just puts a smile on my face because it is a fk you to purists.

Can't help but thinking this generation of Q7 is actually quite a handsome beast. My fear of German cars combined with an undoubtedly complex engine would have me running a mile from this car, but put a smile on my face when some other sucker buys it!

[Ahonen]

A friend of mine had a silver one of these for about six months back on 2010. He acquired it for an absolute song after its previous owner decided he wanted a white one instead and so bought two of them within 9 months! I remember that Iain's would have been around £110k new but he paid something like £60k for it. Anyway, I digress. It was an astonishing machine. What amazed me the most was how linear the acceleration was - from zero to pretty much 155 it pulled at exactly the same rate, with the suspension lowering in stages along the way. It was quiet, smooth, proper fast and could clear the fast lane like Moses.

[ElectricPics]

Oakman said:

Would that engine fit in a T5 - T6 Transporter........?

Easily - in the back!

[lindrup119]

Andy20vt said:

Q7 - the sure fire way to easily identify yourself as a particularly cretinous individual on the road. Everyone I have had the misfortune to meet who happened to drive a Q7 has thus far proved to be an appendage of the highest order.

[cognac1979]

Oakman said:

Would that engine fit in a T5 - T6 Transporter........?

Or my VW Caddy!

[IanH755]

Glasgowrob said:

Stage 2 from the likes of B & B is 600 bhp and 930 lbs/ft of torque.

MRC have mapped one to 600hp and 1320NM (975 ft/lbs), the dyno chart is on their "Wall of Fame" hidden in the customer toilet

[Vocht]

The extended leather on the dash and the wooden trim, simply lovely!

[yellowstreak]

alorotom said:

I love my Q7 and there was not a single used V12 for sale in the UK when I bought mine as that’s what I actually wanted and set out to buy but after 6weeks searching and the impending failure of my A6 needs must and I went for the 4.2 V8 instead

I still love it now but have been tempted with replacing it with the V12 next year - although there is currently 1 on AT which could tempt me sooner

My wife has run a 4.2 V8 for three years. Apart from its ability to consume tyres its been brilliant.

Some might struggle with the image, but in my opinion its no worse than the range rovers which proliferate where we live. I've taken it shooting a few times and I've not got it stuck so far. As a road car it makes my mother's Toyota land cruiser feel like a tractor. It will swallow lots of kit and drive you long distances in comfort. If diesels don't get outlawed we will go the SQ7 next.

[JMF894]

big_rob_sydney said:

Give it a fking break? Sorry, but no chance.

If anything, I'd give it a fking diet. Seriously, look at your own words; this thing could lose a tonne, and still be a fat arse.

A TONNE!

And why on earth put up with the aerodynamics of a brick? That's just stupid.

Point.Missed.Completely.

[JMF894]

Ahonen said:

AC43 said:

I heard and smelt the race version at Goodwood the first year it won Me Mans. It sounded awful and created vast clouds of rank black smoke. A technical dead end. Thankfully.

It didn't create any vast clouds of black smoke when it was racing, so you may be mistaken.

Neither did it when I saw it whilst ticking over at the FoS a few years back. I'll admit there was a faint haze though, as if there was a large forest fire just over the hill!

[The Beaver King]

big_rob_sydney said:

Give it a fking break? Sorry, but no chance.

If anything, I'd give it a fking diet. Seriously, look at your own words; this thing could lose a tonne, and still be a fat arse.

A TONNE!

And why on earth put up with the aerodynamics of a brick? That's just stupid.

So buy a Porsche...?

SUVs aren't supposed to be 'fast', they're supposed to be the road going equivalent of a cruise ship. Any big SUV that does 0 - 60 in sub- 7 seconds is pretty damn impressive.

Personally I applaud Audi for giving the green light to such a ridiculous vanity project. It has no purpose in life other than to be stupidly over-the-top and that is as good a reason as any in my book.

You might not like, but it isn't meant for you. It is meant for other people, ones who like stupidly OTT status symbols and big numbers.

This is up there with the W12 A8s and the Rover SD1 with the 12 litre Meteor tank engine. I mean, why not...?

[Grindle]

There's a fella with one of these amongst a 12 car collection in nearby York. It's a strange engine to push because it's as quick changing up at 3,500 rpm as it is seeking out the red line or even maximum power. The owner has added another 100 bhp since i drove it and the torque was capped at 800 pounds to protect the transmission, but that's still another 60 pounds over standard. An incredibly luxurious and monstrously-engined car for £35 grand is a steal in my book. It's heavy and feels it but the way that engine overcomes 2.5 tonnes is astonishing. Great car at these prices. In an A8 it would be epic.

[triggerhappy21]

Makes me laugh that the review of the SQ7 a few months back was page after page of virtually unrelenting hate. I wonder if in 10 years everyone on PH will suddenly decide they love that too?

Only ever seen one on the road. Seemed to have every available bit of chrome trim plastered all over it. Ruined the looks but would still love it!

[Fetchez la vache]

big_rob_sydney said:

And why on earth put up with the aerodynamics of a brick? That's just stupid.

To be fair to the Q7, there wasn't an option on the order form not to make it have the aerodynamics of a fking brick.

[big_rob_sydney]

Fetchez la vache said:

big_rob_sydney said:

And why on earth put up with the aerodynamics of a brick? That's just stupid.

To be fair to the Q7, there wasn't an option on the order form not to make it have the aerodynamics of a fking brick.

To be fair to the Q7... ? Eh?

The Q7 is one model of vehicle out of how many hundred that are on the market? The vast majority of other vehicles on the market can get by without having that problem, so why should anyone "be fair" to this land-based windsail?

Next thing you know, they'll come in 4 tonne, 5 tonne, and 6 tonne models, with increasingly stupid amounts of power, if only to move the stupid bulk.

Seriously, its like watching a fat bd try and run the hundred meters and claim they're athletes because they drank a diet coke beforehand.

Dumbasses.

[alorotom]

Fetchez la vache said:

big_rob_sydney said:

And why on earth put up with the aerodynamics of a brick? That's just stupid.

To be fair to the Q7, there wasn't an option on the order form not to make it have the aerodynamics of a fking brick.

You’re wasting your time ... clearly has an axe to grind for whatever reason ... maybe beaten off the lights or maybe out-overtaken or maybe just has big-man syndrome ... either way not worth arguing with

[big_rob_sydney]

alorotom said:

Fetchez la vache said:

big_rob_sydney said:

And why on earth put up with the aerodynamics of a brick? That's just stupid.

To be fair to the Q7, there wasn't an option on the order form not to make it have the aerodynamics of a fking brick.

You’re wasting your time ... clearly has an axe to grind for whatever reason ... maybe beaten off the lights or maybe out-overtaken or maybe just has big-man syndrome ... either way not worth arguing with

Wow. I have an opinion thats different to yours and I have to have a syndrome? Sorry, but not everyone thinks alike. I dislike them, for reasons that I have made abundantly clear. They are heavy, inefficient vehicles, in case you missed it.

If you only want to hear from people that think like you, maybe you should join a mutual masturbation society.

[blearyeyedboy]

I'm sorry to disagree with those who like/love this car, but I think this is a poor choice for a PH Hero.

Those stickers have been reserved for cars where there is almost universal love among the PH faithful. A Mk 1 Lotus Elise, for example.

There is certainly widespread respect for this, but love? I think you need more than a great engine to have a great car. I appreciate that others disagree, but this leaves me cold- it pushes no emotional buttons for me, I'm afraid.

[PhilboSE]

big_rob_sydney said:

To be fair to the Q7... ? Eh?

The Q7 is one model of vehicle out of how many hundred that are on the market? The vast majority of other vehicles on the market can get by without having that problem, so why should anyone "be fair" to this land-based windsail?

I don't know why I'm engaging with you as I'm a rational human being and clearly you are not with regard to SUVs as you always pop up on any story about them to spew your arse gravy. However...

The weight results from the size of the car, the materials used, and the size of the engine and drivetrain. All cars of this type from the same era are in the same weight ballpark. This particular one has the extra mass of a V12 engine up front. Do you get similarly frothy mouthed over say a Bentley (any sort) which is the same mass and length? Or do you just have a thing against SUVs?

big_rob_sydney said:

Next thing you know, they'll come in 4 tonne, 5 tonne, and 6 tonne models, with increasingly stupid amounts of power, if only to move the stupid bulk.

This is just demonstrates your inability to actually form a coherent argument. SUVs (like most car genres) are getting lighter not heavier, but don't let mere things such as facts get in the way of your window licking.

big_rob_sydney said:

Dumbasses.

The biggest dumbass here would be someone who castigates vehicular choice purely on grounds of size and weight, who then chooses to drive around in an oversize lardy saloon when clearly they have no family and probably no friends. Why don't YOU choose to drive something a bit smaller and lighter? Because it's you, right?