VW Auto hold - advice on freak incident

VW Auto hold - advice on freak incident

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C.A.R.

3,968 posts

190 months

Saturday 23rd December 2017
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My previous car, a 2016 Mazda6, would automatically apply the handbrake when you turned the ignition off- so you could theoretically never forget to apply it.

Problem is I became complacent; relying on this function rather than manually pressing the button.

Great until you get into a different car!!

saaby93

32,038 posts

180 months

Saturday 23rd December 2017
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SouthernSkye said:
Glad I just have old fashioned manual handbrakes, my old head coulndn't handle all this helpful technology !
Hopefully the skoda version stil does

Ashtray83

573 posts

170 months

Saturday 23rd December 2017
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Auto hold on vw doesn’t work if the seat belt isn’t plugged in either

ashleyman

7,003 posts

101 months

Saturday 23rd December 2017
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On my Golf (that also has hill hold) it will apply the handbrake if the driver door is opened.

AlmostUseful

3,285 posts

202 months

Sunday 24th December 2017
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saaby93 said:
SouthernSkye said:
Glad I just have old fashioned manual handbrakes, my old head coulndn't handle all this helpful technology !
Hopefully the skoda version stil does
My 2016 Superb has an electronic parking brake and auto hold. It applies the parking brake every time you stop, if you turn the car off the EPB stays engaged and it releases either manually if you push the switch or once you’re trying to move off and it feels you reaching bite point on the clutch.

No danger of it rolling down the road unless it fails.

Riley Blue

21,090 posts

228 months

Sunday 24th December 2017
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By his own admission, the OP has been driving for a week in a car that

" Auto Hold has been playing me about and not coming on when I press the button to activate it"

yet relies on it when parking on a gradient to get something out of the boot.

I'd love to see his completed claim form.

dave_s13

13,823 posts

271 months

Sunday 24th December 2017
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This has just jogged a memory of mine. I was sat in the barbers and watched a new golf park up over the road. On a gradient. Young lad gets out waits for a chance to cross, car stationary, he sets of over the road and the car then gently sets off too.

It went from completely stationary for a number of seconds to creeping forward heading toward the car parked in front. This tells us by the brake was on, then it wasn't.

Luckily someone shouted at him and he managed to jump back in and get it stopped.

No paediatricians were harmed thankfully. It could have been driver error, but maybe this VW system isn't all that infallible?

andrewparker

8,014 posts

189 months

Sunday 24th December 2017
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MethylatedSpirit said:
Why use autohold? I instantly switch it off of every car I get into. A quick flick of the handbrake switch and check for the handbrake light before you leave the car is super easy.
When I had my manual Golf R I never turned autohold off. It just meant I never had to bother about the handbrake. When setting off, having autohold engaged means you don’t have to manually release the handbrake, and the same when you finish your journey. Effectively meant I never actually used the handbrake manually. For me, on a manual car, I don’t see why you wouldn’t use it.

timberman

1,294 posts

217 months

Sunday 24th December 2017
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everyone on here seems to be missing something obvious and it's already been mentioned in this thread,
maybe a quick read of the handbook is in order.

The Auto hold feature will not function unless the seatbelt is engaged

so removing ones seatbelt and getting out of the car, ( i.e as the op describes )
or even manouvering the car without it engaged means the auto hold won't be working which might explain why people think it's acting up.

RHVW

139 posts

79 months

Sunday 24th December 2017
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timberman said:
everyone on here seems to be missing something obvious and it's already been mentioned in this thread,
maybe a quick read of the handbook is in order.

The Auto hold feature will not function unless the seatbelt is engaged

so removing ones seatbelt and getting out of the car, ( i.e as the op describes )
or even manouvering the car without it engaged means the auto hold won't be working which might explain why people think it's acting up.
IF it was first activated and the seatbelt was removed / door opened / stopped for a couple of minutes the parking brake would engage. obviously you have to turn the thing on first

I like the auto hold system but the electric parking brake is a good example of fixing a problem that did exist.....

saaby93

32,038 posts

180 months

Sunday 24th December 2017
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Is this a good summary - does it work or not?
Some posters said its a common misunderstanding it does that ( or rather doesnt) there's a line buried in the instruction book, then some others saying the handbrake should kick in after the auto hold anyway
Which is it?
Is there a handbrake? you know a thing with a hand lever or is it a parking brake - operated by other means?
Does the auto hold operate it?


andrewparker

8,014 posts

189 months

Sunday 24th December 2017
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saaby93 said:
Is this a good summary - does it work or not?
Some posters said its a common misunderstanding it does that ( or rather doesnt) there's a line buried in the instruction book, then some others saying the handbrake should kick in after the auto hold anyway
Which is it?
Is there a handbrake? you know a thing with a hand lever or is it a parking brake - operated by other means?
Does the auto hold operate it?
In my manual Golf stopping the car with autohold on and then turning the engine off will see the electronic handbrake applied automatically and with no need for the driver to do anything. I’m surprised this didn’t happen in the scenario described by the OP.

Tryke3

1,609 posts

96 months

Sunday 24th December 2017
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In my old passat auto hold had a noise associated with it, like an whiring electric motor....

RHVW

139 posts

79 months

Sunday 24th December 2017
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andrewparker said:
In my manual Golf stopping the car with autohold on and then turning the engine off will see the electronic handbrake applied automatically and with no need for the driver to do anything. I’m surprised this didn’t happen in the scenario described by the OP.
It would have if he had activated the function before the event.....sounds like he didn't.



andrewparker

8,014 posts

189 months

Sunday 24th December 2017
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RHVW said:
andrewparker said:
In my manual Golf stopping the car with autohold on and then turning the engine off will see the electronic handbrake applied automatically and with no need for the driver to do anything. I’m surprised this didn’t happen in the scenario described by the OP.
It would have if he had activated the function before the event.....sounds like he didn't.
Ahhhh! Epic fail then.

Pica-Pica

13,990 posts

86 months

Sunday 24th December 2017
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I would love to see the FMEA for this feature. A primary function should be instinctive, and common on all cars, or failsafe if not.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

128 months

Sunday 24th December 2017
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Pica-Pica said:
I would love to see the FMEA for this feature. A primary function should be instinctive, and common on all cars, or failsafe if not.
Merc-style foot parking brake?

Jamesgt

848 posts

235 months

Sunday 24th December 2017
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ashleyman said:
On my Golf (that also has hill hold) it will apply the handbrake if the driver door is opened.
This is what my mk7 golf does too.... all but one time! I pulled up on my drive. Got out the car and walked off. Few seconds later I hear a crunch. The golf has rolled back into our other car. Since then we just leave the car in gear when parked. I just put the incident down to me not knowing exactly how the system works and maybe I had done something wrong but now I’ve read that Mirror article I’m thinking otherwise.

saaby93

32,038 posts

180 months

Sunday 24th December 2017
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Reminds me of insurance auto renewal
You get the letter saying it's going to auto renew
You phone up to check it's going to auto renew
A few days later you find you're not covered
Phoning up turns off the auto renew spin

How would the OP know the auto hold wasnt active?

SouthernSkye

74 posts

140 months

Sunday 24th December 2017
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Without diverting this thread can I ask why hill-hold/assist etc.is req'd/used? Having passed my test at 17, now 50, are hill-starts little covered these days?
Thanks.