RE: Ferrari Portofino: Driven
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Article seems to miss what customers want from this car (or the California customers I know) - this isn't bought as a GT, or a supercar....It's bought as an every day, 52weeks/yr, usable Ferrari.
Those owners love it, and most have their eyes on one of these, several with orders in.
As for berating a roof for taking 14 seconds of open? Nit-picking much? (the cynical would say that it not being made by Porsche nature is the bigger issue....but not me, *cough* *financial support* *cough*)
Those owners love it, and most have their eyes on one of these, several with orders in.
As for berating a roof for taking 14 seconds of open? Nit-picking much? (the cynical would say that it not being made by Porsche nature is the bigger issue....but not me, *cough* *financial support* *cough*)
BVB said:
Interestingly the California it replaces was the car that almost all female Ferrari customers bought. About 80% of it's sales were to women. The Portofino is stunning and I'm sure the ladies will be queuing for ownership.
This is b
ks. Ferrari bloke said:
Quietly in 2008 Ferrari admitted that its then new California sports car was designed to appeal to women. In that respect it has failed – very few women bought this near-200mph folding hard-top sports car, although a lot of men did and 70 per cent of them were new to Ferrari ownership.
"The same sex, but a different type of customer," says Nicola Boari, head of Ferrari product marketing.
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"The same sex, but a different type of customer," says Nicola Boari, head of Ferrari product marketing.
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andy43 said:
anonymous said:
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article said:
Its follow-up is much more comely,....
....For the Portofino, the engineers have again delved into the details; chiefly to chivvy at the passage of air through the engine....
... it gurgles a little too gassily and wants for the seamlessness....
... In Sport mode, with the paddles in play, the gear ratios suddenly shunt together with heft and speed, complimenting an engine that never demeans itself with too much linearity or mid-range paunch, but instead revs progressively and impeccably - and perhaps a little more vigorously than its forbear...
...The net effect is not unlike the inability of the drivetrain to make peaceable, blameless progress; Ferrari's persistence with a taut and edgy handling character ultimately handicapping fulfilment of the brief at the opposite end of the scale. Of course that rather makes the car sound like a chip off the old block: neither one thing or the other, doomed by a mandate just broad enough for Maranello to fail to wrap its collective head around...
I can just hear the gentle rhythmic thud of derestrictor's head on a wall somewhere.......For the Portofino, the engineers have again delved into the details; chiefly to chivvy at the passage of air through the engine....
... it gurgles a little too gassily and wants for the seamlessness....
... In Sport mode, with the paddles in play, the gear ratios suddenly shunt together with heft and speed, complimenting an engine that never demeans itself with too much linearity or mid-range paunch, but instead revs progressively and impeccably - and perhaps a little more vigorously than its forbear...
...The net effect is not unlike the inability of the drivetrain to make peaceable, blameless progress; Ferrari's persistence with a taut and edgy handling character ultimately handicapping fulfilment of the brief at the opposite end of the scale. Of course that rather makes the car sound like a chip off the old block: neither one thing or the other, doomed by a mandate just broad enough for Maranello to fail to wrap its collective head around...
suffolk009 said:
You mean he's trolling us?
I wouldn't blame him . Every second fking article on this site is now full of comments complaining about what appears to be a reasonably decent piece of English. So he throws in a few more adverbs than are strictly necessary. So what?What do you need? C-a-r g-o f-a-s-t. C-a-r l-o-o-k s-h-i-n-y.
If you don't like it, move on. You didn't pay anything to read the article. Nobody forced you to.
As for the car, I agree with whoever said the interior is a mess. Why can't car interiors be simple and elegant any more? Surely Ferrari should be leading the way here? It's a nice machine though.
suffolk009 said:
Gameface said:
Cackett must be doing it to take the piss now. No-one with serious journalistic training would consistently publish content such as he does.
You mean he's trolling us?Would anyone go all the way to Italy, review a car like this and not come pack with a portfolio of decent unique shots, at least some of which some could be used in a leading article? Of course not!
He hasn't driven it - all of the images I've pulled down for a reverse image search appeared on another site about 6 days ago:
https://www.automoto.it/prove/ferrari-portofino-pu...
He/she/it hasn't even touched it or heard it, never mind driven it - none of the claims made in the 'article' can be backed up - the roof speed, the noise, the acceleration - none of it is derived from ANY first hand knowledge.
That's two successive DRIVEN: articles by this 'writer' which are fabricated.
And clearly, (
) the people of the town played a significant part in the decisions and development underpinning the car!!:'Maranello has a second go...'
'No less importantly for Maranello...
'In replacing it, Maranello claims...'
'in vogue at Maranello...'
'Maranello says...'
'In the quest to make the Portofino more liveable, Maranello...'
'Maranello has installed...'
'broad enough for Maranello...'
Absolute joke if true.
Maybe it's because he hasn't actually driven them that he writes such flowery prose. To gloss over the actual complete lack of experience of the cars.
Wasn't there a "first drive" of the McLaren 720S a while ago that was outed as actually trundling along a little private road on the Goodwood estate?
Maybe it's because he hasn't actually driven them that he writes such flowery prose. To gloss over the actual complete lack of experience of the cars.
Wasn't there a "first drive" of the McLaren 720S a while ago that was outed as actually trundling along a little private road on the Goodwood estate?
nickfrog said:
hyphen said:
Non-extreme
Ferrari cars
should
be
stunningly
beautiful.
This
is
not
Totally subjective I would have thought. Owners seem happy, non-owners less so. The non-Ferrari owning PH crowd is hard to please and very particular about cars they will never own.Ferrari cars
should
be
stunningly
beautiful.
This
is
not
ReverendCounter said:
Yet another 'DRIVEN:' article which is a complete sham.
Would anyone go all the way to Italy, review a car like this and not come pack with a portfolio of decent unique shots, at least some of which some could be used in a leading article? Of course not!
He hasn't driven it - all of the images I've pulled down for a reverse image search appeared on another site about 6 days ago:
https://www.automoto.it/prove/ferrari-portofino-pu...
He/she/it hasn't even touched it or heard it, never mind driven it - none of the claims made in the 'article' can be backed up - the roof speed, the noise, the acceleration - none of it is derived from ANY first hand knowledge.
That's two successive DRIVEN: articles by this 'writer' which are fabricated.
And clearly, ( ) the people of the town played a significant part in the decisions and development underpinning the car!!:
'Maranello has a second go...'
'No less importantly for Maranello...
'In replacing it, Maranello claims...'
'in vogue at Maranello...'
'Maranello says...'
'In the quest to make the Portofino more liveable, Maranello...'
'Maranello has installed...'
'broad enough for Maranello...'
Granting PH the benefit of the doubt, I've always assumed most of the pictures are press photos given by the manufacturer. Not least because PH typically watermark their own shots with the photographer's name and 'for Pistonheads' or some such.Would anyone go all the way to Italy, review a car like this and not come pack with a portfolio of decent unique shots, at least some of which some could be used in a leading article? Of course not!
He hasn't driven it - all of the images I've pulled down for a reverse image search appeared on another site about 6 days ago:
https://www.automoto.it/prove/ferrari-portofino-pu...
He/she/it hasn't even touched it or heard it, never mind driven it - none of the claims made in the 'article' can be backed up - the roof speed, the noise, the acceleration - none of it is derived from ANY first hand knowledge.
That's two successive DRIVEN: articles by this 'writer' which are fabricated.
And clearly, (
) the people of the town played a significant part in the decisions and development underpinning the car!!:'Maranello has a second go...'
'No less importantly for Maranello...
'In replacing it, Maranello claims...'
'in vogue at Maranello...'
'Maranello says...'
'In the quest to make the Portofino more liveable, Maranello...'
'Maranello has installed...'
'broad enough for Maranello...'
Whether it's been driven or the prose automatically generated from the press release? Who knows
Gameface said:
Absolute joke if true.
Maybe it's because he hasn't actually driven them that he writes such flowery prose. To gloss over the actual complete lack of experience of the cars.
Wasn't there a "first drive" of the McLaren 720S a while ago that was outed as actually trundling along a little private road on the Goodwood estate?
Well at least that writer could have conveyed the new car smell of a 720 if nothing else!Maybe it's because he hasn't actually driven them that he writes such flowery prose. To gloss over the actual complete lack of experience of the cars.
Wasn't there a "first drive" of the McLaren 720S a while ago that was outed as actually trundling along a little private road on the Goodwood estate?
To think NC could have perhaps gotten away with it if it wasn't for those meddling automotive lovers.
pppppppppppppppp said:
suffolk009 said:
You mean he's trolling us?
I wouldn't blame him . Every second fking article on this site is now full of comments complaining about what appears to be a reasonably decent piece of English. So he throws in a few more adverbs than are strictly necessary. So what?What do you need? C-a-r g-o f-a-s-t. C-a-r l-o-o-k s-h-i-n-y.
If you don't like it, move on. You didn't pay anything to read the article. Nobody forced you to.
As for the car, I agree with whoever said the interior is a mess. Why can't car interiors be simple and elegant any more? Surely Ferrari should be leading the way here? It's a nice machine though.
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