RE: New BMW M8 details revealed

[B17NNS]

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[mylesmcd]

Lozw86 said:

JohnGoodridge said:

Missed opportunity for a true flagship. N74 > S74 with pumped up the turbos to give about 800hp. That would be awesome, if enormously hefty. This spec makes it more like an M5 coupe, nice, but not really very interesting.

800hp?

Why would they do that?

Which of their competitors are doing it?

0.1% of BMW drivers might buy it

You missed the point. The V12 engine from BMW is now dead. This was a great opportunity to use it in a halo model before it dies.

Competitors? Why worry about them.

Also, pedantry matters. BMW sold 2.08m cars last year. .1% of that equals 208,000 cars. At say 150k a pop it would make this a rather successful raid of the parts bin!

[E65Ross]

TwinExit said:

steve1386 said:

Hard to see the point of this in the real world, apart from the willy wavers that will want to say they have the "M8".

I imagine it will have a considerable cost hike over the M850i, for little gain out on every day roads, and for most of the time will be the better car in terms of an all-rounder e.g. comfort / quietness etc.

The point of the M3/4/5 is that they offer so much more in terms of performance vs. other models in their series (in this country at least), but I can't see the benefit of the M8 justifying it's premium.

It's called the "upgrade path".

The M8 is another step in that BMW ladder.

9 series and the M9 to follow...

Yeah, I find it so annoying that car manufacturers offer CHOICE! Damn them. I really wish they'd just make 1 single car and be done with it. In fact, I wish there was only 1 car in the world so I didn't have to choose. I think we should ALL drive VW Golf estates, since they are fast enough, practical enough, nice enough inside, and, well, just "enough". They should only have 1 colour available, 1 interior scheme available, and no options, so as to avoid any actual choice.

[nicholasm]

mylesmcd said:

You missed the point. The V12 engine from BMW is now dead. This was a great opportunity to use it in a halo model before it dies.

Competitors? Why worry about them.

Also, pedantry matters. BMW sold 2.08m cars last year. .1% of that equals 208,000 cars. At say 150k a pop it would make this a rather successful raid of the parts bin!

???

Maths matters.

[Chamon_Lee]

is it just me or does it sound no where near as special as it should be. The competition still has BMW licked in the sound department

[Ray_Aber]

I'm not sure what's happening at BMW's styling department, but I'm concerned about the trend.

Firstly, the relatively lithe and sleek Mk2 Z4 is replaced by a stumpy box.

Now, the relatively lithe and sleek 6 Series (especially the Gran Coupe) is being replaced with the bulky and squat 8 series.

I know that driving dynamics are a huge part of BMW (or should be) but so too are the looks. BMWs are - for me - losing the plot if the two examples above are indicative of their future styling direction. Where's the elegance?

[Amirhussain]

iphonedyou said:

Anybody else read the RE: comments solely for the bullst bingo you can play in the comments below with everyone hating every car ever reported on?

+1. You just know what the comments are gonna be before you’ve been read them.

[Leigh-o70eq]

I was hoping for it being lighter, and definitely different from the regular car. Something nearer to the GTE race car at least in some of the body panels

[nickfrog]

Kenny Powers said:

It’s the norm now. No one in here has even seen one and already they’re personally offended that it’s going to exist and other people might quite like one. Just have to shrug and smile I guess. Can’t imagine what it must be like being inside of those heads all day every day. Depressing I would imagine. Nearly every new car comment reads like it was scrawled by an angry teenager who isn’t even old enough to drive

It’s perfectly fine to dislike a car but some people need to stand back, take a look in the mirror and get some perspective. I genuinely have no idea why the majority now take pleasure in toxic misery.

I agree it's getting silly. So much bitterness and frustration. It's not my kind of car but I am glad it exists, particularly if it makes the owner happy (however alledgedly removed he/she is from the pool of road only "driving enthusiasts" who still can't grasp that people have several cars for different uses anyway).

[loveice]

Jonny TVR said:

Zetec-S said:

No, I'm with you there.

Have BMW just canned the 6 series/M6 name and called the replacement an 8 series/M8...?

Its like the M4 .. no its a coupe M3.

Even when we are talking about the same drivetrain/chassis with different body style, there's still a difference...

Kind of make sense:

4-3=1

What the hell:

8-5=3

What use to be:

6-5=1

Unless the new M8 is based on the 7-Series chassis with a highly tuned V12 (turbo charged or not) by the M division, then it's basically the new M6...

[IainR]

Interesting car that will probably be practical and useable daily in the UK and I quite fancy one. But the first question you’d ask is ‘when is the Competition version coming out?’ and - assuming they are going to fall off a cliff depreciation wise - ‘what discounts / financing deals are available on them?’ By comparison 911 residuals are pretty strong nowadays.

[DamnKraut]

nicholasm said:

???

Maths matters.

Stop criticising. As a company director the poster you quoted simply knows that putting that V12 into that abomina... errr... new BMW willl result in loads of dough - to be used on hookers and coke, in good Italian company director fashion... salute

[Mr Whippy]

Jonny TVR said:

J4CKO said:

Its an M5 with a different body style ?

Thats pretty M ish to me, its not M Sport, M Lite or whatever, its a full fat M car, I bet its a bloody awesome thing.

They are awesome .. my f90 m5 is. I was sceptical about the 4WD but my god in typical English weather it plants the power to the road giving you ability to use all that power unlike my similarly powerful RWD 599 Ferrari

That sounds awesome, so Ferrari have been getting it wrong all these years because of no RWD in their far more ultimate driving machines

[kainedog]

I lost interest when then the 2 and 4 series came out , the 1 series made sense as a smaller car was needed but the last BMW’s I’ve desired were the 1M and v10 m5 . There’s too much choice I think

[up_shift]

The more I read the more interesting the 8 is getting - I'm glad they're focusing on silly stats - I Was worried it was going to be a case of the M6 GC - kind of pointless when you can buy a very similar M5

[nickfrog]

kainedog said:

There’s too much choice I think

Yeah that can only be a bad thing !

[Kenny Powers]

Too much choice. The most bizarre concept known to man

[Reciprocating mass]

I bet it’s a great car if you like driving down the autobahn at 170 mph I’m not sure what there talking about with pure driving experience
It’s a Luxo barge it won’t be remotely interesting to drive fast on U.K. roads unless you like breaking the law on motorways which is not exciting to me one bit tbh
Im sure it’s nice when your in it racing across continents but boy they don’t make a nice looking car anymore I don’t think bmw make anything today that makes you think wow look at that the original 8 series makes this look like a
Taxi parked outside the local supermarket tbh

[Kenny Powers]

To be fair, 600hp+ is always interesting unless your name is Claire Rayner

[richthebike]

What a load of rubbish. The E46 is and was great, but the F80 is mega. Having owned and lived with both, I'll take the newer car, every time.
The straight 6 in the 46 sounded great, but I really like the sound of the 80 too.
Plus, new car comes as a saloon, which is much cooler.
I'm also not buying the weight arguments. The older car felt heavier than the new one, to me. On the non CS/CSLs the slow steering was pretty annoying too.
Your comment about 'not a lot of money' .... is this based on when they were old and you could get them for 7 grand? Pffft.

Mackofthejungle said:

BMW lost the plot years ago. The E46 was the last proper car they made really.. You were buying a pumped up regular 3 series coupe, with one of the finest (the finest?) 6 cylinder engines at any price....for not a lot of money. A little bit of the exotic, but everyday usability. I'm not sure what the current batch of M cars do really.. So heavy and so powerful that they've had to adopt 4WD, and utterly bland engines. And nothing puts me off more than a car that can see a 20% power hike by plugging it into laptop - it's like admitting defeat or something.

And yeah, this is just a 6 series replacement, and nobody liked that so lets not get excited about a different number some chump in marketing decided to use.