RE: Vauxhall Monaro VXR500: Spotted
Discussion
George Smiley said:
That's as good as the argument that instead of spending 25k on a classic 525, you could get an e46 M3 which is newer and better. The Monaro's compete in a very different way to the F10 - these are cars that are simple to maintain and offer great value for money. You wont see many f10's on the road in 10 years time.
You could have the best of both worlds and stick a brand new crate in your M3 for less than this 
TheAngryDog said:
George Smiley said:
TheAngryDog said:
F10 M5 can be had much cheaper and is a much faster car. OK no manual gearbox, but it depends what you want from a car.
E9x M3 and £8k supercharger for ~625bhp and the option of manual or DTC, and still have plenty of change in your pocket.
That's as good as the argument that instead of spending 25k on a classic 525, you could get an e46 M3 which is newer and better. The Monaro's compete in a very different way to the F10 - these are cars that are simple to maintain and offer great value for money. You wont see many f10's on the road in 10 years time.E9x M3 and £8k supercharger for ~625bhp and the option of manual or DTC, and still have plenty of change in your pocket.
TheAngryDog said:
F10 M5 can be had much cheaper and is a much faster car. OK no manual gearbox, but it depends what you want from a car.
E9x M3 and £8k supercharger for ~625bhp and the option of manual or DTC, and still have plenty of change in your pocket.
Both as dull as ditchwater though! E9x M3 and £8k supercharger for ~625bhp and the option of manual or DTC, and still have plenty of change in your pocket.
George Smiley said:
The 600s were compromised too and never made the figures, I recall one of the two detonated itself as a result of the poor way it was conceived.
The VXR is different to the CV8 as it has uprated suspension, brakes, overall handling was better this was fully built by HSV not Holden - this is not the same as the VXR500 which wasn't a manufacture build it was a local UK tuning firm and a Dealership special. Think of it as the Trigger's Broom as far as official value goes.
Wrong I’m afraid, they were take.n from the Holden assembly line and finished off in a shed by HSV. I know the bloke who owned the VXR 600 and it died because the boost was turned up to 12psi beyond the 9psi it came with. At thunder road on a hot day.The VXR is different to the CV8 as it has uprated suspension, brakes, overall handling was better this was fully built by HSV not Holden - this is not the same as the VXR500 which wasn't a manufacture build it was a local UK tuning firm and a Dealership special. Think of it as the Trigger's Broom as far as official value goes.
Ask me another.
I’ve had mine for 13 years. I wonder have you ever owned or driven a Monaro?
Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 14th March 15:35
s m said:
Smitters said:
I'm pretty sure a mate of mine paid circa £20k less for an RS4 with less than 30k miles. So this is laughable.
Only if you prefer an RS4 to a VXR500 though?wormus said:
George Smiley said:
The 600s were compromised too and never made the figures, I recall one of the two detonated itself as a result of the poor way it was conceived.
The VXR is different to the CV8 as it has uprated suspension, brakes, overall handling was better this was fully built by HSV not Holden - this is not the same as the VXR500 which wasn't a manufacture build it was a local UK tuning firm and a Dealership special. Think of it as the Trigger's Broom as far as official value goes.
Wrong I’m afraid, they were take.n from the Holden assembly line and finished off in a shed by HSV. I know the bloke who owned the VXR 600 and it died because the boost was turned up to 12psi beyond the 9psi it came with. At thunder road on a hot day.The VXR is different to the CV8 as it has uprated suspension, brakes, overall handling was better this was fully built by HSV not Holden - this is not the same as the VXR500 which wasn't a manufacture build it was a local UK tuning firm and a Dealership special. Think of it as the Trigger's Broom as far as official value goes.
Ask me another.
I’ve had mine for 13 years. I wonder have you ever owned or driven a Monaro?
Edited by wormus on Thursday 14th March 15:35
Smitters said:
s m said:
Smitters said:
I'm pretty sure a mate of mine paid circa £20k less for an RS4 with less than 30k miles. So this is laughable.
Only if you prefer an RS4 to a VXR500 though?Guess we all like different cars though
Would love a Monaro, a couple of mates have/had one and they're ludicrously fun. I am generally a Vauxhall fan but only these and the VXR8 float my boat for anything they've listed recently.
But £45k is not the price to pay for one. They haven't got that significant a status as to warrant it, they don't have the "So fast it should be illegal" reputation of the Lotus Carlton or the status of something like an BMW M5 of a similar age.
Give it a few years when some from the bottom end of the market have gone, and the mid-market ones start to go a bit wrong, then sure, the price of a low-mileage one with good history will increase, but we aren't there yet.
Buy a cheaper one, and bolt on the bits that you want from the suppliers and tuners who know these cars well, and you'll have as good, or significantly better car for about half the money this one wants.
But £45k is not the price to pay for one. They haven't got that significant a status as to warrant it, they don't have the "So fast it should be illegal" reputation of the Lotus Carlton or the status of something like an BMW M5 of a similar age.
Give it a few years when some from the bottom end of the market have gone, and the mid-market ones start to go a bit wrong, then sure, the price of a low-mileage one with good history will increase, but we aren't there yet.
Buy a cheaper one, and bolt on the bits that you want from the suppliers and tuners who know these cars well, and you'll have as good, or significantly better car for about half the money this one wants.
wormus said:
TheAngryDog said:
F10 M5 can be had much cheaper and is a much faster car. OK no manual gearbox, but it depends what you want from a car.
E9x M3 and £8k supercharger for ~625bhp and the option of manual or DTC, and still have plenty of change in your pocket.
Both as dull as ditchwater though! E9x M3 and £8k supercharger for ~625bhp and the option of manual or DTC, and still have plenty of change in your pocket.
stemac76 said:
Bloody awful, bland. And far too 90s for me...
I can't see any Monaro being bland, or bloody awful let alone a VXR 500. You really have to get what these cars are all about to understand and appreciate them. As for being too 90's fair enough, but that's when it was designed, having said that I still love 60's and 70's cars anyway.
Someone made a comment about having a preference for an RS4 over a Monaro, well I'm the opposite I just couldn't have an Audi over a Monaro.
As for supercharged Monaro's blowing up all the time, I doubt very much the likes of Monkfish would have built them if that was the case.
We have to agree when it comes to cars..... it's horse's for course's
George Smiley said:
Ok, how many engines have you had and how many attempts did you take to get it to your 800bhp? How often would you run it at full wick and would you trust it if you did?
What’s my car got to do with this article? You’ve done the same trolling on the other thread. We get you don’t like them so why not go somewhere else. Like the deformed Porsche forum? selym said:
Panamera? Hardly dominating the stairs with that monstrosity.
I have an eclectic taste in cars, the porsche got replaced with a john Cooper works mini.At no point have I said I don't like Monaro, quite the opposite is true I love them but the vxr500 is just a worthless badge
wormus said:
TheAngryDog said:
You can't say that and not give reasons..
I just find German cars really boring. Monaro is flawed but that’s the charm of them. I once had a man chase me to a set of lights on his push bike just so he could ask me about the car. People just seem to love them.Water Fairy said:
Smitters said:
I'm pretty sure a mate of mine paid circa £20k less for an RS4 with less than 30k miles. So this is laughable.
Hmmm a couple of years ago I paid 2.5k for my E46 320cd M Sport. I'm not really sure what your point is fella. Different cars attract different prices. Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff