RE: Subaru Forester STI: PH Fleet

RE: Subaru Forester STI: PH Fleet

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Hol

8,419 posts

202 months

Tuesday 30th April 2019
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big_rob_sydney said:
I've been looking to replace my last (4th) Subaru with another one, and I think my issue is space as well. I'm around 6'4" and we also have 2 kids just around teen years, so I'm really curious to hear if people think the STI Foz would really work for us.

For what it's worth, we do a lot of trips to Italy and Spain, and normally drive a Lexus LS. I know the Subaru isn't a patch on the waftability of the Lexus, but I'm wondering if a decent cruise control setup is a comfortable way to mulch motorway miles?

And no, I don't give a crap about mpg either smile
The 2004 and 2006 FSTI's I test drove didn't have cruise control.

I was under the opinion, that none of the FSTI's had it, but happy to be proven wrong.

As a family workhorse, the Forester is extreme practical for a family of four including luggage as the boot area is almost square.

rastapasta

1,881 posts

140 months

Tuesday 30th April 2019
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PomBstard said:
Lovely car! Logical upgrade is indeed a Legacy/Liberty and whilst the 03-09 Gen 4 looks better and is probably a little more nimble, from experience the 09-14 Gen 5 is usefully bigger for kids and kit. And if you love a Forester, the Gen 5’s looks won’t offend...

Had mine for just over 2 years now...

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=16...
I agree. Ive had a Gen 5 since 2015 and it never lets us down. good car to haul also,



TEKNOPUG

19,025 posts

207 months

Tuesday 30th April 2019
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SidewaysSi said:
So as long as you don't let it overheat you are fine...

Even if it becomes £16k or even £20k, what else is out there that can do what this car can? I am in the position where I genuinely can't think of anything else at all that meets my needs.

I want a big boot, decent reliability, fun, good performance, strong residuals, character, a manual gearbox. I don't want a Audi/BMW /Merc etc as I don't trust the reliability of the newer cars and I already have an old E36 for fun.

A tweaked Forester with biggish power, some handling tweaks, those Rays alloys and a few other niceties would surely be an absolute cracker.

What else is there for even sub £40k? Maybe a Golf R but I would prefer the Subaru even if they cost the same.
I totally get why people like them. They are cool.

But they are neither fish nor foul. The higher CoG compromises the dynamics and you lose the off road abilities of the lesser Foresters; ground clearance, hi/low ratio box, locking diffs etc. And the EJ255 worries. And they aren't that much bigger than an Impreza. For most people, most of the time, one of the fast Legacy's would be a more suitable bigger Impreza option. I appreciate though the usefulness of the square tailgate/boot.

BUG4LIFE

2,034 posts

220 months

Tuesday 30th April 2019
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MDMA . said:
I sold mine to another PH'er. They are a very good car. Would have another one sometime if the right one came up for sale.

Still going strong [a pic from a while ago, but I like it]....



Such a fun car to own. Chances are I'll be looking to sell it later this summer though, as I need something a little bigger and a little more relaxing [I'm getting old]. Going to enjoy it this summer though, starting with Japfest this Sunday smile


JazzyTopher

17 posts

91 months

Tuesday 30th April 2019
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Always had a bit of a soft spot for these. Have actually been browsing the classifieds recently, thinking of chopping in my derv Audi A3. Working from home means I really don't do much mileage and we have a larger Passat that can be used for the longer family journeys. Totally just writing this to try and justify it to myself... Not sure the Mrs would approve of two Subarus, the other being a 93 WRX project car.

JT

DaveCWK

2,014 posts

176 months

Tuesday 30th April 2019
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Hol said:
The 2004 and 2006 FSTI's I test drove didn't have cruise control.

I was under the opinion, that none of the FSTI's had it, but happy to be proven wrong.

As a family workhorse, the Forester is extreme practical for a family of four including luggage as the boot area is almost square.
No FSTi's came with cruise, bit it's fairly easy to fit an aftetmarket system (completely electronic pedal loom intercept type; same as the standard SG Forester)

I have a pre-facelift STi & love it.

rossub

4,520 posts

192 months

Tuesday 30th April 2019
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JazzyTopher said:
Always had a bit of a soft spot for these. Have actually been browsing the classifieds recently, thinking of chopping in my derv Audi A3. Working from home means I really don't do much mileage and we have a larger Passat that can be used for the longer family journeys. Totally just writing this to try and justify it to myself... Not sure the Mrs would approve of two Subarus, the other being a 93 WRX project car.

JT
I’ve somehow managed to sneak 3 into my possession - 2 of which occupy the garage, while her car sits on the drive biggrin

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

236 months

Tuesday 30th April 2019
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TEKNOPUG said:
SidewaysSi said:
So as long as you don't let it overheat you are fine...

Even if it becomes £16k or even £20k, what else is out there that can do what this car can? I am in the position where I genuinely can't think of anything else at all that meets my needs.

I want a big boot, decent reliability, fun, good performance, strong residuals, character, a manual gearbox. I don't want a Audi/BMW /Merc etc as I don't trust the reliability of the newer cars and I already have an old E36 for fun.

A tweaked Forester with biggish power, some handling tweaks, those Rays alloys and a few other niceties would surely be an absolute cracker.

What else is there for even sub £40k? Maybe a Golf R but I would prefer the Subaru even if they cost the same.
I totally get why people like them. They are cool.

But they are neither fish nor foul. The higher CoG compromises the dynamics and you lose the off road abilities of the lesser Foresters; ground clearance, hi/low ratio box, locking diffs etc. And the EJ255 worries. And they aren't that much bigger than an Impreza. For most people, most of the time, one of the fast Legacy's would be a more suitable bigger Impreza option. I appreciate though the usefulness of the square tailgate/boot.
Has the Legacy ever got great reviews? Always seemed a bit lacking in ability?


PomBstard

6,840 posts

244 months

Tuesday 30th April 2019
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I’ve got a copy somewhere of a review of the 2006 Liberty STI (I think) by Wheels magazine somewhere - will post it up when I find it. Generally said was a great car, esp at the local price.

Found it...













Edited by PomBstard on Tuesday 30th April 21:04

TEKNOPUG

19,025 posts

207 months

Tuesday 30th April 2019
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SidewaysSi said:
Has the Legacy ever got great reviews? Always seemed a bit lacking in ability?
Reviews will be UK models. The full fat JDM WR GTs and STis are a different matter.

MDMA .

8,979 posts

103 months

Wednesday 1st May 2019
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BUG4LIFE said:
MDMA . said:
I sold mine to another PH'er. They are a very good car. Would have another one sometime if the right one came up for sale.

Still going strong [a pic from a while ago, but I like it]....



Such a fun car to own. Chances are I'll be looking to sell it later this summer though, as I need something a little bigger and a little more relaxing [I'm getting old]. Going to enjoy it this summer though, starting with Japfest this Sunday smile
Still serving you well I hope? My daughter says the "Jap wagon" was her favourite car smile

big_rob_sydney

3,416 posts

196 months

Wednesday 1st May 2019
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TEKNOPUG said:
SidewaysSi said:
Has the Legacy ever got great reviews? Always seemed a bit lacking in ability?
Reviews will be UK models. The full fat JDM WR GTs and STis are a different matter.
Yes, that review above is a "Tuned by STI" version released in Australia, if I'm not mistaken. I read up on the Legacy (thanks for the tip, previous poster), and there's a JDM version with 300 bhp and 400NM of torque. This looks like a great base to start with. Unfortunately, none of those cars are in the Autotrader (yes, I've already started looking...*sigh*).

Next stop, importers. Ouch.

TEKNOPUG

19,025 posts

207 months

Wednesday 1st May 2019
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Quite a few GT WRs in the country so imagine they will be on Auto trader. 2.0l twin scroll, 280bhp etc.

BUG4LIFE

2,034 posts

220 months

Thursday 2nd May 2019
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MDMA . said:
BUG4LIFE said:
MDMA . said:
I sold mine to another PH'er. They are a very good car. Would have another one sometime if the right one came up for sale.

Still going strong [a pic from a while ago, but I like it]....



Such a fun car to own. Chances are I'll be looking to sell it later this summer though, as I need something a little bigger and a little more relaxing [I'm getting old]. Going to enjoy it this summer though, starting with Japfest this Sunday smile
Still serving you well I hope? My daughter says the "Jap wagon" was her favourite car smile
Yes it is indeed. I just wish, like you, I could keep her as a weekend car. But I probably will need something a little bigger, auto and more relaxing...a Legacy TBSTi might fit the bill smile

I keep meaning to drop a message, as I have a quick question about the wheels...I'll send you a WhatsApp message if that's ok?

MDMA .

8,979 posts

103 months

Thursday 2nd May 2019
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No problem.

Edit - worth a call to see if available -

https://www.torque-gt.co.uk/subaru-legacy-sti-0804...

Edited by MDMA . on Thursday 2nd May 12:11

Icehanger

394 posts

224 months

Thursday 2nd May 2019
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rooflesstyrant said:
Tow bar mounted bike rack could allow for more large bikes.
Can you get a tow bar to fit a FSTi?

Konan

1,854 posts

148 months

Friday 3rd May 2019
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[quote]First up the six-speed gearbox in the STI (UK cars have a five-speed) means I can cruise at motorway speeds without waking the turbo.
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Not sure about the Forester Box, but ont the JDM Impreza with a 6 speed, the top ratio is about the same as 5th on a 5 speed.

Oliver-2optb

29 posts

104 months

Friday 3rd May 2019
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Have to wade in on this, a rare post indeed.
I too have a forestor XT that Richard Henry Motorpsort look after and they do a great job, highly recommend.
I wresteld with the XT vs STI and in the end settled on a 2004 2.0 XT , which was then modified,
WRX intercooler,
WRX TD04 turbo,
de cat up pipe,
remap, running approx 250
WRX 4 pot brakes,
and white line beefed up ARB,
inovite 17 inch alloys- with 215/5517

Its a great compromise, savage mid range, comfortable thing, ultra practical, pretty relaxing, you can even sleep in the back( wales rally GB).
The main criticism though is the lack of torque, which would be solved with a 2.5.
However I wanted to have somehting that was the most proven reliability wise, so thats the compromise.

FSTI's do change hands very quickly, mainly because people love the idea of it, but ownership is totally different to lusitng after pictures and using it occassionally.
If I was to change cars I would look at a 2.5XT with a pot for engine work, or a twin scroll legacy GTB JDM.

AndrewEH1

4,917 posts

155 months

Sunday 12th May 2019
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Hopefully Dan or someone else might be able to help, but what roof bars fit the FSTI? I'm currently scratching my head on Google...

MDMA .

8,979 posts

103 months

Sunday 12th May 2019
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AndrewEH1 said:
Hopefully Dan or someone else might be able to help, but what roof bars fit the FSTI? I'm currently scratching my head on Google...
Thule -
Intracker Foot Pack: 4900
Rapid Fitting Kit: 4910

Plus whichever bars you want to use. The OEM Subaru bars were made by Thule. You still might be able to get a set, but will probably have to come from Japan or Australia now.