RE: Ford Ranger Raptor: Driven
Discussion
G13NVL said:
What are they like on a decent length motorway cruise? Ie road noise, comfort, interior quality etc guessing a couple pegs lower than a RRS or similar but these have so much more want! With Clive Sutton often having RHD converted ones for sale also I’m very keen.
Before I retired, I regularly drove 600 miles in a day, from Dorset to Yorkshire and back. Road noise is little different to any other SUV-type vehicle. Comfort has always been superb. Interior quality is typical American, but I don't know many people who feel a need to stroke & lick the plastics at regular intervals. I have an LPG conversion, so can conceivably run for 600-odd miles between fill-ups. The only downside is the fuel consumption, but if that's a consideration, don't buy a big V8. And other than a EGR sensor and a set (16) of spark plugs, it's just had a change of (expensive) oil every 3-5,000 miles.No intention of selling yet. So long as it keeps running, I'll keep driving it. And I rarely keep anything for more than a year or two.
cowboyengineer said:
blearyeyedboy said:
Sorry, I meant in principle, not this difficult vehicle.
Is it income tax free to salary sacrifice and pay BIK on, say, a Toyota Hilux?
Ford told me it was taxed as a normal car would beIs it income tax free to salary sacrifice and pay BIK on, say, a Toyota Hilux?
If this is 30% BIK (I can't find the number anywhere) then at £50k a 40% tax payer would pay pay £50k x 30% x 40% = £6000 or £500 a month. Roughly.
pilotdan said:
Nigh on £50k for a 2.0 tdi pick up.
Worlds gone mad.
Isn’t a 2.0 oil burning euro box close to £40k now?Worlds gone mad.
I know which I’d sooner have, the one that can do more than just sit on your rear bumper on A roads and motorways.
But then no one buys a Euro box, they just rent them for a few years.
As an owner of a '18 plate Wildtrak, size isn't an issue as it's not much different to the thousands of Ranger pickups on the road already.
I'd be in one tomorrow if it wasn't for the waiting list.
The article says "even standard Rangers are surprisingly comfortable places for racking up the miles".
Has the author actually been in a standard Ranger? The last thing the standard leaf spring rear suspension could be called is comfortable.
The Ranger Raptor is worth £50k for the ride comfort alone.
I'd be in one tomorrow if it wasn't for the waiting list.
The article says "even standard Rangers are surprisingly comfortable places for racking up the miles".
Has the author actually been in a standard Ranger? The last thing the standard leaf spring rear suspension could be called is comfortable.
The Ranger Raptor is worth £50k for the ride comfort alone.
Promised Land said:
pilotdan said:
Nigh on £50k for a 2.0 tdi pick up.
Worlds gone mad.
Isn’t a 2.0 oil burning euro box close to £40k now?Worlds gone mad.
I know which I’d sooner have, the one that can do more than just sit on your rear bumper on A roads and motorways.
But then no one buys a Euro box, they just rent them for a few years.
I absolutely love the look of it, but the engine. The 3.2 5 cyl would be excusable, but the little 2.0 4 cyl Transit engine is so underwhelming, I agree with Ford that it should be an efficient diesel motor due to the type of vehicle it is, but Ford makes better motors than the little 4cyl, it would be in dream truck terratory if they put in the Lion V6 (otherwise known as the JLR TDV6, it would suit the truck so well with 250-300hp, particularly with a 6 speed manual.
Funnily enough, the 2.3 Ecoboost 4-pot is the only engine option in North America and it's both quicker and more economical than the NA V6s offered by rival "mid-size" trucks. I guess the V6 Ecoboost might fit but I doubt that the 5 litre V8 would and they don't appear to be offering the Ranger Raptor over there, I'm guessing because it might affect F150 sales? However, a potential competitor to the Ranger Raptor would be the Chevrolet Colorado ZR2 diesel and that only gets 180bhp.
Promised Land said:
Isn’t a 2.0 oil burning euro box close to £40k now?
I know which I’d sooner have, the one that can do more than just sit on your rear bumper on A roads and motorways.
But then no one buys a Euro box, they just rent them for a few years.
Yes. Shame on all of us for not having 40k in our pocket to buy our cars outright and then giving in to the temptation of the pcp.I know which I’d sooner have, the one that can do more than just sit on your rear bumper on A roads and motorways.
But then no one buys a Euro box, they just rent them for a few years.
What on earth are we all thinking? Because only a true petrolhead buys his car with cash.............
And for the record my 2.0 oil burner, which is of the German variety, specced to the eyeballs came in at 33k with discounts.
With regards to discounts, there are none (at the moment, at least.) They are only sold through FordStores (bigger dealers that sell Mustangs and RS models) and in the first batch, each dealer is getting two trucks, some of which will be demos. I’m not sure exactly, but I would have thought this would mean there are fewer than 100 actual customer cars between now and next year.
It is indeed not classed like most other trucks as a commercial vehicle because it can’t take 1000kgs in the back. I believe it’s the worst of both worlds though, as due to its weight it will be subject to the lower speed limits (not that anyone will pay any attention to this, mind).
I saw mentioned in one of the posts here that the 3.2 5-cylinder engine has been replaced by this new 2.0-litre, which isn’t quite true. In the facelift Wildtrak, you can spec either the 3.2 or the 2.0, and I think they’re the same price. The 2019 Ranger range: https://www.ford.co.uk/content/dam/guxeu/uk/docume...
It is indeed not classed like most other trucks as a commercial vehicle because it can’t take 1000kgs in the back. I believe it’s the worst of both worlds though, as due to its weight it will be subject to the lower speed limits (not that anyone will pay any attention to this, mind).
I saw mentioned in one of the posts here that the 3.2 5-cylinder engine has been replaced by this new 2.0-litre, which isn’t quite true. In the facelift Wildtrak, you can spec either the 3.2 or the 2.0, and I think they’re the same price. The 2019 Ranger range: https://www.ford.co.uk/content/dam/guxeu/uk/docume...
Edited by David87 on Thursday 2nd May 21:56
It certainly looks the part but it’s a bit embarrassing when you see the 0-60 time, it’s like a weak untrained bloke with a beer belly strutting around in a Tap Out shirt. Not that the engine isn’t perfectly adequate for daily use, it’s just a bit cringey that it looks so heavy duty/lairy but has such a lacklustre power output. I know the ~5s 0-60 of the F150 was never going to happen but at least make it sub 9! It might do a bit better with an aftermarket remap.
Almost got an F150 Raptor but bailed at the size. Really wanted one of these but that engine and 0-60 is a massive, massive fail. Hopefully they will launch it in the US where it will get a decent petrol ecoboost.
ETA... wow. A boggo Ranger costs $25k, comes with 270bhp/310ftlb and does 0-60 3 seconds quicker than this ''Raptor''. Embarrassing.
ETA... wow. A boggo Ranger costs $25k, comes with 270bhp/310ftlb and does 0-60 3 seconds quicker than this ''Raptor''. Embarrassing.
Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 3rd May 00:06
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