Passed driving test a month ago at the age of 28.. issues
Discussion
bobtail4x4 said:
so move to north yorkshire, we dont have any fixed cameras,
if you dont see the cop in hi vis or the van with CAMERA on the back, you deserve to get nicked.
Bit silly really. The mobile guys are sneaky bif you dont see the cop in hi vis or the van with CAMERA on the back, you deserve to get nicked.
ds, unless you’ve got local knowledge it’s entirely possible to get zapped. By the time you’ve seen them it’s too late, for example coming around a gentle left hand swoop on the motorway and seeing the on the bridge in the distance. 
PHuzzy said:
To be fair, if it were up to me, I'd have not allowed you to obtain a licence anyway.
Maximum of 3 attempts to pass and must be done by the age of 25 would be my criteria.
If you can't pass either of them, you're probably not going to be either very adept at it or be interested enough in driving to improve your skills to a decent standard.
Christ, I've read some utter bMaximum of 3 attempts to pass and must be done by the age of 25 would be my criteria.
If you can't pass either of them, you're probably not going to be either very adept at it or be interested enough in driving to improve your skills to a decent standard.
ks on this forum over the years, but this is right up there. Complete and utter st. And I say that having passed 1st time aged 17. I've had this, where I replay the times I've been breaking the limit over and over in my head, just to make sure I definitely wasn't caught. Granted, it was only at times of really, really breaking the limit, but still. 
I'd advise to run Waze at all times as it should help put your mind at rest.
I'd advise to run Waze at all times as it should help put your mind at rest.
Satnavs such as certain Garmin models can be set to give a warning chime if you exceed the speed limit.
However, very occasionally their speed limits are completely and utterly wrong, or the speed limit has been changed since the map file was created by Garmin.
Speed cameras *usually* (but never assume always) give you at least a 10% margin of error. So you'd need to be doing mid-30s mph in a 30mph limit, or high-70s mph in a 70mph limit before you're likely to get done.
For a minor speeding offence (say 35mph in 30mph limit) you're likely to be offered a speed awareness course the first time you get caught speeding, which won't put points on your licence.
Finally, *most* car speedos over-state your actual speed. About 5% over-read is typical, so your speedo might well say 42mph when you're actually doing 40mph.
However, very occasionally their speed limits are completely and utterly wrong, or the speed limit has been changed since the map file was created by Garmin.
Speed cameras *usually* (but never assume always) give you at least a 10% margin of error. So you'd need to be doing mid-30s mph in a 30mph limit, or high-70s mph in a 70mph limit before you're likely to get done.
For a minor speeding offence (say 35mph in 30mph limit) you're likely to be offered a speed awareness course the first time you get caught speeding, which won't put points on your licence.
Finally, *most* car speedos over-state your actual speed. About 5% over-read is typical, so your speedo might well say 42mph when you're actually doing 40mph.
TVR1 said:
FinallyWhippin said:
Joelonghair said:
You definitely seem to have some underlying mental health issue that needs attention.
I don't say this flippantly.
You have gone to far, I've been ignoring most of these comments as only a handful have actually been helpful.. how on earth does me not wanting to get caught by a speed camera mean I have mental health issues? I don't say this flippantly.
Or your money back.
You would be offering a different type of therapy.
Irrespective it's an irrational anxiety that would make life better for Op if he/she didn't have it.
Ask your girlfriend if you can borrow one of her balls, maybe? None of us want to get caught by speed cameras; the easiest solution is not to speed at all and as you gain experience you'll learn when you can take the piss and when it's best not to.
Comments about mental health notwithstanding it does appear that you have excessive levels of anxiety about this.
Or that you're a troll.
Comments about mental health notwithstanding it does appear that you have excessive levels of anxiety about this.
Or that you're a troll.
you could buy an Alfa most models have a speed alarm you can set when you pass through, so for example you could set it to 32mph as a reminder,
or you could just look at you speedo as they are designed to let you know how fast you are going, have you considered a Tandem, a bicycle made for two ?
you and 'Your Daisy' may be happily there ever after
or you could just look at you speedo as they are designed to let you know how fast you are going, have you considered a Tandem, a bicycle made for two ?
you and 'Your Daisy' may be happily there ever after
)PHuzzy said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Christ, I've read some utter bks on this forum over the years, but this is right up there. Complete and utter st. And I say that having passed 1st time aged 17.
I don't see any countering points there though... Tell me why it's bks on this forum over the years, but this is right up there. Complete and utter st. And I say that having passed 1st time aged 17. ks.A friend of ours passed a few years back aged 49. Her first car was an Audi A4 3.0 cabriolet. Her insurance premium was about £500. A 20 year old with a full licence for 3 years would be paying 3 times that. There's a reason for that.
So the insurance evidence, based on millions of drivers, appears to contradict your beliefs. What evidence can you point to back up your theory.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
PHuzzy said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Christ, I've read some utter bks on this forum over the years, but this is right up there. Complete and utter st. And I say that having passed 1st time aged 17.
I don't see any countering points there though... Tell me why it's bks on this forum over the years, but this is right up there. Complete and utter st. And I say that having passed 1st time aged 17. ks.A friend of ours passed a few years back aged 49. Her first car was an Audi A4 3.0 cabriolet. Her insurance premium was about £500. A 20 year old with a full licence for 3 years would be paying 3 times that. There's a reason for that.
So the insurance evidence, based on millions of drivers, appears to contradict your beliefs. What evidence can you point to back up your theory.
Neither of which has anything to do with how good a driver someone is.
It's cheaper for her because statistically less 49 year olds have crashes than 20 year olds, there are still terrible drivers in both age ranges but drastically it'll lower with age and experience, new drivers around the age of 20 are far more numerous than new drivers at 49 so the likelihood of being statistically more likely to crash is obvious at a younger age.
There are numerous studies and published papers that link interest to skill level and show that the more interest shown in something, the more likely you are to be better at it.
Given most people's thoughts on the poor quality of drivers we have on our roads and the fact that the driving test pass percentage hasn't been above 50% in the last 10+ years when it's a realitvely easy test that requires not a vast amount of skill to pass and doesn't prepare drivers for the real world, I'd say if it takes multiple attempts, you're very unlikely to be a good driver.
I've had the odd moment when I've seen a speed check a bit late and been a little scared of the post coming for the next few days in case it contains something unpleasant. Touch wood, I've never been caught speeding since passing my test seventeen years ago and I don't dither around.
Ever lower speed limits, many that are really too low for the roads they're on, and more different ways of enforcing them do add an unnecessary stress to driving and can get in the way of paying proper attention to other hazards.
One of the most important elements of safe driving is having the right attitude and maintaining a calm, clear head so you can focus on the job in hand. When you're excessively worrying about one small thing like speed cameras, that in itself is a distraction.
Speed checks tend not to be discrete in this country. Cameras are bright yellow and you can tend to see the mobile checks, whether it's a police officer with a speed gun or a camera van. Look well ahead and you should be all right. You can generally identify the sort of straights where they're likely to be. Wide roads with speed limits that can easily be broken. This weekend being a warm bank holiday, they're hanging out on popular biker routes.
Some cars have Intelligent Speed Assist which reads speed limit signs as well as taking information from the satnav to reduce power to the engine and stop you going over the limit, others you can press a button and it limits them to a certain speed.
You seem to have a confidence issue that's not being helped by your girlfriend getting irritable with you. I suggest you take some advanced driving lessons. If you're in the North West of England, Reg Local is someone good to go out with for a day. He's a regular contributor on here, a former police driving instructor and IAM examiner. He's also got a prudent attitude to speed and won't patronise you with speed kills, think of the children nonsense. You need help from someone who'll teach you car control, speed awareness and who will improve your confidence.
You can watch his videos on YouTube and take a look at his thread on here.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8fDyubAs3eLup-3C...
Ever lower speed limits, many that are really too low for the roads they're on, and more different ways of enforcing them do add an unnecessary stress to driving and can get in the way of paying proper attention to other hazards.
One of the most important elements of safe driving is having the right attitude and maintaining a calm, clear head so you can focus on the job in hand. When you're excessively worrying about one small thing like speed cameras, that in itself is a distraction.
Speed checks tend not to be discrete in this country. Cameras are bright yellow and you can tend to see the mobile checks, whether it's a police officer with a speed gun or a camera van. Look well ahead and you should be all right. You can generally identify the sort of straights where they're likely to be. Wide roads with speed limits that can easily be broken. This weekend being a warm bank holiday, they're hanging out on popular biker routes.
Some cars have Intelligent Speed Assist which reads speed limit signs as well as taking information from the satnav to reduce power to the engine and stop you going over the limit, others you can press a button and it limits them to a certain speed.
You seem to have a confidence issue that's not being helped by your girlfriend getting irritable with you. I suggest you take some advanced driving lessons. If you're in the North West of England, Reg Local is someone good to go out with for a day. He's a regular contributor on here, a former police driving instructor and IAM examiner. He's also got a prudent attitude to speed and won't patronise you with speed kills, think of the children nonsense. You need help from someone who'll teach you car control, speed awareness and who will improve your confidence.
You can watch his videos on YouTube and take a look at his thread on here.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8fDyubAs3eLup-3C...
Edited by Blakewater on Monday 26th August 00:14
no help I know You do need to relax about it as they are a fact of life, no point stressing over things you cannot change or influence.
Worth noting you have to be doing something pretty outrageous speeding wise to actually lose your licence so consider getting a speed awareness course or points as a warning and take note. The fact these things are pretty obvious in bright yellow is also in our favour.
Has your girlfriend left you yet?
Worth noting you have to be doing something pretty outrageous speeding wise to actually lose your licence so consider getting a speed awareness course or points as a warning and take note. The fact these things are pretty obvious in bright yellow is also in our favour.
Has your girlfriend left you yet?
gl20 said:
g3org3y said:
Vaud said:
I agree. OP - look up CBT therapy. It might be helpful.
Actually a pretty reasonable suggestion tbh.
bobtail4x4 said:
so move to north yorkshire, we dont have any fixed cameras,
if you dont see the cop in hi vis or the van with CAMERA on the back, you deserve to get nicked.
I'm in NY too. The camera vans are fkin sneaky though and they also seem to choose locations on their ability to catch people over places related to safety, IMO at least.if you dont see the cop in hi vis or the van with CAMERA on the back, you deserve to get nicked.
For example on The A59 they're never on the truly dangerous locations, it's normally a layby on the only overtaking opportunity for 10 miles.
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