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hinMost of the Group A touring cars in Europe ran with a Getrag competition box and Ford 9" diff, where as Australia and the Far East they tended to go with the cheaper Hollinger boxes and Harrop diff, originally developed for the Holden Commodore.
Road boxes were only used in the Group N cars, such cosworths used the world version of the Borg Warner T5 with a Ford 7.5" diff
Road boxes were only used in the Group N cars, such cosworths used the world version of the Borg Warner T5 with a Ford 7.5" diff
Edited by PAUL500 on Sunday 5th January 20:37
PAUL500 said:
Most of the Group A touring cars in Europe ran with a Getrag competition box and Ford 9" diff, where as Australia and the Far East they tended to go with the cheaper Hollinger boxes and Harrop diff, originally developed for the Holden Commodore.
Road boxes were only used in the Group N cars, such cosworths used the world version of the Borg Warner T5 with a Ford 7.5" diff
Is this you sir in the vid? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNJzqzTxOAA&t=...Road boxes were only used in the Group N cars, such cosworths used the world version of the Borg Warner T5 with a Ford 7.5" diff
Edited by PAUL500 on Sunday 5th January 20:37
Really enjoyed it anyways along with the info on the Group A RS500's.
evojam said:
PAUL500 said:
Most of the Group A touring cars in Europe ran with a Getrag competition box and Ford 9" diff, where as Australia and the Far East they tended to go with the cheaper Hollinger boxes and Harrop diff, originally developed for the Holden Commodore.
Road boxes were only used in the Group N cars, such cosworths used the world version of the Borg Warner T5 with a Ford 7.5" diff
Is this you sir in the vid? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNJzqzTxOAA&t=...Road boxes were only used in the Group N cars, such cosworths used the world version of the Borg Warner T5 with a Ford 7.5" diff
Edited by PAUL500 on Sunday 5th January 20:37
Really enjoyed it anyways along with the info on the Group A RS500's.
Well the RS500 is the one to have, but I wouldn't pay that for one even if I could!
Back in the 80s I had a MK2 Escort RS2000 then a couple of 2.8i Capris, so a Cosworth was the obvious next step - except they were virtually uninsurable at the time so it never happened. Although I often wondered what if...……
Then in the 90s a mate of mine who was in the motor trade took some cars to a track day at Silverstone and a load of us went along with him.
His cars included a 2WD Sapphire Cosworth and an XR4i.
So I got to meet my hero so to speak and it was disappointing - off boost it was sluggish, and if the boost kicked in mid-corner it was unruly! The XR4i was so much better to drive, even if not as quick on a decent straight. Mind you it looked so much better!
My mate also preferred the XR4i, which may be why he's got one now!
Back in the 80s I had a MK2 Escort RS2000 then a couple of 2.8i Capris, so a Cosworth was the obvious next step - except they were virtually uninsurable at the time so it never happened. Although I often wondered what if...……
Then in the 90s a mate of mine who was in the motor trade took some cars to a track day at Silverstone and a load of us went along with him.
His cars included a 2WD Sapphire Cosworth and an XR4i.
So I got to meet my hero so to speak and it was disappointing - off boost it was sluggish, and if the boost kicked in mid-corner it was unruly! The XR4i was so much better to drive, even if not as quick on a decent straight. Mind you it looked so much better!
My mate also preferred the XR4i, which may be why he's got one now!
Mr Tidy said:
Back in the 80s I had a MK2 Escort RS2000 then a couple of 2.8i Capris, so a Cosworth was the obvious next step - except they were virtually uninsurable at the time so it never happened. Although I often wondered what if...……
I was exactly like this with the Fiesta RS Turbo(I actually saw one yesterday too!). I really wanted one but the insurance was completely out of reach for me at the time...so I ended up with a Sierra xr4x4 instead. I loved the xr4x4(I had 2) but the Fiesta RS Turbo was the one I really wanted. It proved to me that you always want what you haven't got!
PAUL500 said:
Most of the Group A touring cars in Europe ran with a Getrag competition box and Ford 9" diff, where as Australia and the Far East they tended to go with the cheaper Hollinger boxes and Harrop diff, originally developed for the Holden Commodore.
Road boxes were only used in the Group N cars, such cosworths used the world version of the Borg Warner T5 with a Ford 7.5" diff
The Harrop diff was a collaboration between Ron Harrop and Dick Johnson, using the Ford 9inch crownwheel and pinion as dick thought the Ford motorsport 9 inch from Europe was too expensive and not bulletproof. Most of the Aussie sierras ran a locked diff too.Road boxes were only used in the Group N cars, such cosworths used the world version of the Borg Warner T5 with a Ford 7.5" diff
Edited by PAUL500 on Sunday 5th January 20:37
Edited by Coatesy351 on Monday 6th January 08:33
cerb4.5lee said:
Mr Tidy said:
Back in the 80s I had a MK2 Escort RS2000 then a couple of 2.8i Capris, so a Cosworth was the obvious next step - except they were virtually uninsurable at the time so it never happened. Although I often wondered what if...……
I was exactly like this with the Fiesta RS Turbo(I actually saw one yesterday too!). I really wanted one but the insurance was completely out of reach for me at the time...so I ended up with a Sierra xr4x4 instead. I loved the xr4x4(I had 2) but the Fiesta RS Turbo was the one I really wanted. It proved to me that you always want what you haven't got!
I've got over wanting what I didn't have a couple of weeks ago, when I bought what I have spent years wanting - just do it!
PAUL500 said:
Most of the Group A touring cars in Europe ran with a Getrag competition box and Ford 9" diff, where as Australia and the Far East they tended to go with the cheaper Hollinger boxes and Harrop diff, originally developed for the Holden Commodore.
Road boxes were only used in the Group N cars, such cosworths used the world version of the Borg Warner T5 with a Ford 7.5" diff
Interesting, thanks for the reply PaulRoad boxes were only used in the Group N cars, such cosworths used the world version of the Borg Warner T5 with a Ford 7.5" diff
Edited by PAUL500 on Sunday 5th January 20:37
Mr Tidy said:
cerb4.5lee said:
Mr Tidy said:
Back in the 80s I had a MK2 Escort RS2000 then a couple of 2.8i Capris, so a Cosworth was the obvious next step - except they were virtually uninsurable at the time so it never happened. Although I often wondered what if...……
I was exactly like this with the Fiesta RS Turbo(I actually saw one yesterday too!). I really wanted one but the insurance was completely out of reach for me at the time...so I ended up with a Sierra xr4x4 instead. I loved the xr4x4(I had 2) but the Fiesta RS Turbo was the one I really wanted. It proved to me that you always want what you haven't got!
I've got over wanting what I didn't have a couple of weeks ago, when I bought what I have spent years wanting - just do it!
It was a Red one I saw as well.
I'm well chuffed for you that you've got your Z4M now for sure.
cerb4.5lee said:
Fantastic thanks!
It was a Red one I saw as well.
I'm well chuffed for you that you've got your Z4M now for sure.
Thanks, that red Fiesta Turbo is usually parked in the street in Sutton - brave owner for sure! It was a Red one I saw as well.
I'm well chuffed for you that you've got your Z4M now for sure.
I'm loving the Z4MC - just thinking I should have done it sooner.
So if there is something you really want just go and get it!
Another of the pre-production cars visited my family in the eighties. Apologies for the photo-of-a-photo images, these originate from before I had a scanner.
To ride in these at the time was amazing performance. It certainly sent my car buying in a certain direction and I dailied a 3-door Cosworth for a long time in the late nineties. Still love them, such a raw experience and during my time behind the wheel I was Andy Rouse/Steve Soper/Jimmy McRae/Mark Lovell/other 3-door heros.
To ride in these at the time was amazing performance. It certainly sent my car buying in a certain direction and I dailied a 3-door Cosworth for a long time in the late nineties. Still love them, such a raw experience and during my time behind the wheel I was Andy Rouse/Steve Soper/Jimmy McRae/Mark Lovell/other 3-door heros.
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