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Castrol for a knave

4,745 posts

92 months

Thursday 23rd January 2020
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I seriously considered getting at the Europa as a daily, but 30,000 miles a year was asking too much.

i actually like the look of them - when they came out they had a rawness about them - they didn't look over designed like the TT they were arguably up against.

A couple of years ago a decent S was £15,000. they then seemed to disappear and re-emerge at £20k plus. i guess it is a case of bottoming out on the depreciation curve and moving into "modern classic" status.

Whereas the 09 plate TT / 370 will now be worth £6k at best.

s m

23,298 posts

204 months

Thursday 23rd January 2020
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cerb4.5lee said:
That extra gear change is the killer then and I was expecting the 0 to 60 to be a bit better considering its lightweight.
Number crunching, the fastest in- gear increments are pretty much identical up to a ton
326bhp in 1575kg v 197bhp in 993kg
Seems about right

Q Car

138 posts

191 months

Thursday 23rd January 2020
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I remember someone on the VX220 forum mentioning a few years ago that the Europa S started life as the Mk2 VX220. Vauxhall pulled out late on in the development process due to their financial position, leaving Lotus with a paid for product that just needed finishing off and the Vauxhall badges swapping for Lotus ones. Does anyone else know anything about this?...

Dift

1,622 posts

228 months

Thursday 23rd January 2020
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Drove mine as a daily driver for about two years. Absolute joy to drive anywhere (other than speed bumps riddled roads). Mine had a few known owners who had meticulously looked after it and improved up on Lotus' vision.
In regards to looks, I really think you have to see one in the flesh, i could never take a good photo of it. When you see one up close, I believe they are much prettier than the more common S2/3 Elise. Mine was a JPS themed car with gold wheels, loved it

I sold up as a fellow Europa owner I knew had a headlight damaged on his car, and he was finding it almost impossible to source a replacement, and when he did, it was eye watering. Using it as a daily no longer made sense and I didnt have time at that point for a toy... so sold it and bought a diesel A1! laugh

lotuslover69

269 posts

144 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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Q Car said:
I remember someone on the VX220 forum mentioning a few years ago that the Europa S started life as the Mk2 VX220. Vauxhall pulled out late on in the development process due to their financial position, leaving Lotus with a paid for product that just needed finishing off and the Vauxhall badges swapping for Lotus ones. Does anyone else know anything about this?...
Not sure about this, i think the Europa basically used up old stock from Vauxhaull left at the factory. The car was essentially a vx220 with a new body and a bit more comfort. Originally this was to be a Proton car (built by Lotus) but later became a Lotus as i guess Proton seen sense.

s m

23,298 posts

204 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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ZX10R NIN

27,703 posts

126 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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These are better looking in the flesh but I agree the looks aren't the best, but they go well enough.

selym

9,548 posts

172 months

Saturday 25th January 2020
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ZX10R NIN said:
These are better looking in the flesh but I agree the looks aren't the best, but they go well enough.
In this day and age with sub 4 second hatches being the norm, what these cars are good at is being fast forgotten.

Mike1990

971 posts

132 months

Saturday 25th January 2020
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Always found these interesting, but totally forgot all about them!

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 25th January 2020
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Mike1990 said:
Always found these interesting, but totally forgot all about them!
I've still got an original sales brochure for Europa S which acts as a useful reminder.

Unfortunately, I've also got a teaser leaflet for Lotus M250 and saw the prototype at one stage...

woodsymv6

3 posts

117 months

Saturday 25th January 2020
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selym said:
In this day and age with sub 4 second hatches being the norm, what these cars are good at is being fast forgotten.
What has being 4WD and overweight got to do with a Lotus?

selym

9,548 posts

172 months

Saturday 25th January 2020
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woodsymv6 said:
selym said:
In this day and age with sub 4 second hatches being the norm, what these cars are good at is being fast forgotten.
What has being 4WD and overweight got to do with a Lotus?
Exactly my point - cars like this are being overlooked in favour of those types of car.

simonrockman

6,869 posts

256 months

Saturday 1st February 2020
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The best source of info on these is the facebook group. It's very much on my "one day" list.

CraigV6

348 posts

132 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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Got a deposit down on this car, picking it up on Sunday.
Looking forward to my first Lotus.

selym

9,548 posts

172 months

Saturday 22nd February 2020
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CraigV6 said:
Got a deposit down on this car, picking it up on Sunday.
Looking forward to my first Lotus.
Nice one, enjoy it!

andy_s

19,421 posts

260 months

Saturday 22nd February 2020
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CraigV6 said:
Got a deposit down on this car, picking it up on Sunday.
Looking forward to my first Lotus.
One day, one day... Enjoy!

ZX10R NIN

27,703 posts

126 months

Saturday 22nd February 2020
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I look forward to hearing your first impressions.

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 22nd February 2020
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Theres only ever one (or zero) for sale and they're always nearly £20k. That's the downside

CraigV6

348 posts

132 months

Sunday 23rd February 2020
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Car collected and up in Aberdeenshire for the foreseeable.
Good drive up the road, washed and tucked away in my garage until I get a ceramic coating applied in a couple of weeks.


Miserablegit

4,037 posts

110 months

Sunday 23rd February 2020
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Lovely - enjoy it.