RE: Shed of the Week | Alfa Romeo 166

RE: Shed of the Week | Alfa Romeo 166

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CharlieAlphaMike

1,141 posts

106 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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Touring442 said:
Nearly 2 pages and nobody yet has used the word 'soul' when describing an old Alfa. laugh
LMFTFY. I once owned a 159ti. Lovely car. So much 'soul' laugh

You're welcome beer

Vee12V

1,337 posts

161 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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I actually prefer the pre-facelift, looks wise.

Filibuster

3,169 posts

216 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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Vee12V said:
I actually prefer the pre-facelift, looks wise.
I have asked myself this very question earlier. scratchchin

Although a very pretty car after the faeclift, the original design looks more coherent as whole '90s car.

aarondbs

848 posts

147 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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Earl of Petrol said:
Proper shed, owned 6 Alfa’s including 1 Busso V6 (75 3.0) and can concur with pretty much everything written above in my experience. Looking for a nice V6 GTV or Brera now....,

dapprman

2,343 posts

268 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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Rafeabrook said:
Counting up the number of Busso owners claiming their cars don't/didn't burn oil.

It's Italian.

Some will, some won't.

I've had two Busso cars. One did. One didn't.
The 3.0 12v in my 164 needed a pint every 100 miles, but as I was doing 27 MPG the local specialist advised me to just keep topping up (or more accurately if I got bad fuel economy I should cry as the cheapest option would be a recon engine replacement).

J4CKO

41,709 posts

201 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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Vee12V said:
I actually prefer the pre-facelift, looks wise.
I know what you mean, the original was more distinctive, the front reminded me of something out of the film The Abyss.

But, this is rather nice, not super showy or flash, just stylish in an understated way, prefer it looks wise to that tarty white Ferrari from yesterday, I have a thing for some mundane Italian stuff though, even the low powered stuff always seemed to have some verve.


Touring442

3,096 posts

210 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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I just remember driving the first ones and thinking the 164 was somehow a better car. The late Lusso with the proper Alfa Romeo engine (8 valve all alloy) in black or dark metallic was a stunning thing. The original 12v 3.0 manual must be almost extinct now.

Itsallicanafford

2,776 posts

160 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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Even in the face of a global pandemic, shed still comes up with the goods... bravo!

bqf

2,232 posts

172 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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I had a 3,0 pre-facelift one of these. It was lovely, did 10k miles in it without a single problem, then sold it for more than i paid for it.

very tempted to have this, on the basis it's just a lovely thing.

Pooh

3,692 posts

254 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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Very nice car, I have always fancied one.
A healthy Busso V6 should burn little to no oil, I have had two and neither of them burned a noticeable amount despite being driven in a very Italian style.

Deranged Rover

3,426 posts

75 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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Nice.

Always liked the 166 and thought it looked much nicer than the 156, mainly due to Alfa not replicating the ridiculous "ooh look, we've put the rear door handle in a crazy place to make it look like a coupe" stupidity of the 156. It didn't make it look like a coupe - it just made it look like they'd forgotten about the rear door handle and had to hurriedly shove it somewhere handy the day before production started.

Obviously I won't be buying this as it doesn't have enough cylinders, but it's still a very nice thing and I would definitely admire it if I encountered it on the road. Most likely as I overtook it...

rxe

6,700 posts

104 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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I have a 3.2 one of these. Actually I have one and 3/4 of the 3.2s. I bought a really nice 54 plate shell with zero rust or damage .. that had no engine or gearbox. I then bought a low mileage catastrophic rust bucket of a 3.2 for the price of its engine and ECU. Some hard graft in the garage, and I have a good un, as well as a parts shell.

The good one has an SMF, LSD and de cat manifolds. KW V1 coil overs. Pretty much all the suspension has been refurbed and it is on Ti wheels (like the one in OP). It’s got a Wizard back box as well.

You can drive it in a sedate fashion, and it is just rather nice and comfy. Or you can wind the engine up to 7k and have a lot of fun. The noise from a Busso has been described as “what you’d hear if you chucked a lion down a really long lift shaft” and it’s not far wrong with this car.

The electrics have been perfect - everything works, nothing has failed.

carinaman

21,361 posts

173 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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bqf said:
I had a 3,0 pre-facelift one of these. It was lovely, did 10k miles in it without a single problem, then sold it for more than i paid for it.

very tempted to have this, on the basis it's just a lovely thing.
It was sold for £800, there was little interest in the barge thread.

biggbn

23,630 posts

221 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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A car I would really like, also liked the big 164 predecessor. I had the twin spark engine in a 145 green cloverleaf, one of the most fun hot hatches I have owned, loved it's styling and capacity for revs...and lift off oversteer...although that might have been jiggered suspension!!

pSyCoSiS

3,612 posts

206 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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I think these are proper svelte saloons.

Prefer the Gen 1 shape - it has aged much better, and IMO is a style icon.

Had two of these - a 99 'T' reg 2.0 TS manual in Alfa Red and black cloth. Was a zingy engine that loved to rev and sounded quite nice. Drove all over with that car and it never missed a beat. Lacquer peel was getting the better of the paintwork though. Only cost me £600.

The second was a 2000 'W' plate Volcane Black (dark purple in certain shades of light) 3.0 V6 Busso Auto. With gorgeous ivory sports leather. Sometimes the gearbox would not change up or down and just hold it in third gear. When running properly was a magnificent car, handled well and the noise from the Busso was on point. Interior plastics were wearing badly though, especially where the paint started to peel off them (common issue I believe). And it did drink a bit of oil.

Some weird quirks with these cars - took me ages to find the boot release, only to accidentally learn it was in the glove box - why?!

Also, I had to actually refer to the handbook to find out where the windscreen washer reservoir was - turned out it has a plastic panel which you unscrew and lift off to access the filler reservoir!

Apart from some of the older classics and the 164 Cloverleaf / 8C, I think this is the best looking modern day Alfa.

Well worth the £800 that someone luckily purchased this example for.

Colin-t4n2y

26 posts

76 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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Great shed!! I ran a 166 Twin Spark Lusso as a company car for 2 3/4 years from Sept 2000. I did 90k+ miles in it in that time and of all the 9 or 10 or so Alfa's I have owned it was by far the most reliable. The only real issue I had was in the first year when one of the then innovative Xenon headlamps failed and it took Alfa UK 6 weeks to get a replacement from Italy! It was one of my most enjoyable Alfa's, although it somehow did not have quite the same character and soul as my 1988 164 V6 Lusso, bought in 1992 and a truly great car that I kept for 14 years and 180,000 miles. I still miss that 164 to this day!! I replaced the 166 with a V6 3.2 GT Coupe, a car that was ruined by its inability to tame 260bhp through the front wheels, and my beloved 164 outlasted both the 166 and the GT Coupe. As others have mentioned I also found most UK Alfa dealers to be utterly hopeless! Before the 166 I ran a 156 twin spark as a company car, and when the crankshaft lunched its main bearings at 6 months and 8,000 miles old the dealer basically shrugged their shoulders and wrung their hands, it was a battle to get the engine replaced under warranty. After the GT Coupe I 'graduated' to a Maserati Quattroporte, however that is a whole other story for a different day......and when will an early QP Mk5 turn up as 'Shed Of The Week' I wonder........

only1ian

689 posts

195 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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george123 said:
“Still, at least our shed won't go through a pint of oil every thousand miles, as Busso 3.0 V6 versions are wont to do.”

Really ? It’s the twin sparks that drink oil. The Busso V6 is the opposite.
Depends very much on your choice of oil! Having owned 2 of both engines

chelme

1,353 posts

171 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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AC43 said:
Top sheddage.

You always get great Alfa stories as bonus.

All those mixed up emotions.

LOL.
Haha! Hear hear...

chelme

1,353 posts

171 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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Colin-t4n2y said:
Great shed!! I ran a 166 Twin Spark Lusso as a company car for 2 3/4 years from Sept 2000. I did 90k+ miles in it in that time and of all the 9 or 10 or so Alfa's I have owned it was by far the most reliable. The only real issue I had was in the first year when one of the then innovative Xenon headlamps failed and it took Alfa UK 6 weeks to get a replacement from Italy! It was one of my most enjoyable Alfa's, although it somehow did not have quite the same character and soul as my 1988 164 V6 Lusso, bought in 1992 and a truly great car that I kept for 14 years and 180,000 miles. I still miss that 164 to this day!! I replaced the 166 with a V6 3.2 GT Coupe, a car that was ruined by its inability to tame 260bhp through the front wheels, and my beloved 164 outlasted both the 166 and the GT Coupe. As others have mentioned I also found most UK Alfa dealers to be utterly hopeless! Before the 166 I ran a 156 twin spark as a company car, and when the crankshaft lunched its main bearings at 6 months and 8,000 miles old the dealer basically shrugged their shoulders and wrung their hands, it was a battle to get the engine replaced under warranty. After the GT Coupe I 'graduated' to a Maserati Quattroporte, however that is a whole other story for a different day......and when will an early QP Mk5 turn up as 'Shed Of The Week' I wonder........
Maserati QP MK5 would more likely be under the title "BRAVE pill" ;-)

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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Feel perhaps like I'm the only one who thinks this is an ugly box? Alfa have made some great looking motors, this isn't one of them.