RE: Bugatti Veyron 16.4 | PH Used Buying Guide
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BlackWidow13 said:
alfaspecial said:
howardhughes said:
alfaspecial said:
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"Perhaps now would be the time to mention that, even if you're doing the official combined fuel consumption figure of just under 12mpg, the £124 it would cost to fill that 22-gallon tank would need to be spent again after just 240 miles. YMMV of course. If you were driving at 248mph everywhere, as you might in parts of the Middle East, you would be getting 1.7mpg. "
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Question: Which car would win this race: From central Bath to Keswick, - a distance of 278 miles via Ambleside (287 if via Penrith M6 junction) - a Bugatti Veyron or a Citroen C1?
The race regulation(s) being that
1) All roads have been closed off specially for the race, and
2) Both cars must travel at maximum throttle, through every gear, at all times
Answer: It probably wouldn't be the Veyron!
Why? At 1.7mpg the Veyron would empty it's tank every 37 miles - given that the British motorway network has service stations at an average distance of 28 miles, you would have to slow down, pull in, stop, fill up with fuel (pay for it!) - and then accelerate back up to full speed - at every single service station
The hare and the tortoise!
Still I'd love to be the one to have actually 'lost' after having driven a Veyron at full chat though!
Don't take this the wrong way, but I think you need to get out more, (Covid permitting of course)"Perhaps now would be the time to mention that, even if you're doing the official combined fuel consumption figure of just under 12mpg, the £124 it would cost to fill that 22-gallon tank would need to be spent again after just 240 miles. YMMV of course. If you were driving at 248mph everywhere, as you might in parts of the Middle East, you would be getting 1.7mpg. "
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Question: Which car would win this race: From central Bath to Keswick, - a distance of 278 miles via Ambleside (287 if via Penrith M6 junction) - a Bugatti Veyron or a Citroen C1?
The race regulation(s) being that
1) All roads have been closed off specially for the race, and
2) Both cars must travel at maximum throttle, through every gear, at all times
Answer: It probably wouldn't be the Veyron!
Why? At 1.7mpg the Veyron would empty it's tank every 37 miles - given that the British motorway network has service stations at an average distance of 28 miles, you would have to slow down, pull in, stop, fill up with fuel (pay for it!) - and then accelerate back up to full speed - at every single service station
The hare and the tortoise!
Still I'd love to be the one to have actually 'lost' after having driven a Veyron at full chat though!
Edited by alfaspecial on Sunday 4th April 04:00
By my calculation it would cost you £996 in petrol to make the journey, which is small change when calculating the costs in tyres -
287miles @ £1081 per mile = £310 thousand pounds!
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"The price for a full set of tyres is around £25,000 today, which is another bargain as that used to be nearer to £40,000. Through its own testing Bugatti found that at a steady 248mph the tyres would be shot after 37 miles. If you took the top tyre cost estimate that would equate to £1,081 a mile just for rubber."
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@Gad-Westy You'd also have to allow time to stop for new tyres SEVEN times on the journey in the Veyron......
Repeat Quote "Through its own testing Bugatti found that at a steady 248mph the tyres would be shot after 37 miles." End Quote
287 / 37 = 7.75 times
Just under £2800 per minute. In tyres.
Stick Legs said:
If I won the Euro Millions I would have one of these in a heartbeat.
I'd then spend 2 years driving it everywhere in all weathers just for the fun of it, get pictures taken all over Europe of it covered in filth and road grime, let anyone who asked nicely to sit in it or have a picture taken with it, put a sticker on the inside of the engine cover of every country I visited and then auction it off for charity at the end.
What a way to blow £1m.
It would be interesting to see how much people would actually pay to do a few laps of a track in a Veyron, perhaps for charity ?I'd then spend 2 years driving it everywhere in all weathers just for the fun of it, get pictures taken all over Europe of it covered in filth and road grime, let anyone who asked nicely to sit in it or have a picture taken with it, put a sticker on the inside of the engine cover of every country I visited and then auction it off for charity at the end.
What a way to blow £1m.
£250 each for 5 laps? £500? A lot of people will have that itch to scratch, to tick one off their bucket list.
Certificate, photo, vid, long lasting memory and smile.
It would be a good charity earner for one such as yourself, the euro lottery winner who doesn't mind sharing the experience with others.
MissChief said:
Technically and mechanically it's a thing of wonder. An Engineering wet dream made whole.
This. You can't criticize the Veyron as it achieved what it was set out to do. It was a showcase for the VW group, to achieve 250mph, safely and reliably.I'll never be in a position to drive one so I can only go on what the rich car enthusiasts say. They don't rate it in the same bracket as the other desirable hyper cars - F40, F1, Carrera GT, 918, P1.
FlukePlay said:
Stick Legs said:
If I won the Euro Millions I would have one of these in a heartbeat.
I'd then spend 2 years driving it everywhere in all weathers just for the fun of it, get pictures taken all over Europe of it covered in filth and road grime, let anyone who asked nicely to sit in it or have a picture taken with it, put a sticker on the inside of the engine cover of every country I visited and then auction it off for charity at the end.
What a way to blow £1m.
It would be interesting to see how much people would actually pay to do a few laps of a track in a Veyron, perhaps for charity ?I'd then spend 2 years driving it everywhere in all weathers just for the fun of it, get pictures taken all over Europe of it covered in filth and road grime, let anyone who asked nicely to sit in it or have a picture taken with it, put a sticker on the inside of the engine cover of every country I visited and then auction it off for charity at the end.
What a way to blow £1m.
£250 each for 5 laps? £500? A lot of people will have that itch to scratch, to tick one off their bucket list.
Certificate, photo, vid, long lasting memory and smile.
It would be a good charity earner for one such as yourself, the euro lottery winner who doesn't mind sharing the experience with others.
I can't remember if it was a TV or magazine interview I came across about 5 or 6 years after the launch but the guy from VW pointed out that arguably they were not losing money on each car. The reasoning was the Veyron demonstrated and proved the technical capabilities and prowess of the VAG group and the total cost at that point was less than the same amount of exposure they would have received from just a couple of years involvement with a formula one team.
FlukePlay said:
It would be interesting to see how much people would actually pay to do a few laps of a track in a Veyron, perhaps for charity ?
The Bugatti OC regularly raffle rides up Prescott Hill in one at their annual "La Vie En Bleu" weekend. Sadly, I can't recall how much they were asking for tickets.Stick Legs said:
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I'd then spend 2 years driving it everywhere in all weathers just for the fun of it
And no doubt it could do it too. I'd then spend 2 years driving it everywhere in all weathers just for the fun of it
I was chatting with a very nice chap from Bugatti (although he stayed on one side of the stand's fence and did not invite me over) at the last Dubai Motor Show before COVID.
He had also mentioned that that they had changed the tire/rim concept on the Chiron to make it more practical (!) than the Veyron and that, with both cars, they tested them in the Arctic and subjected them and all the seals to the same 'rain/water' deluge testing that other VW cars went through, despite knowing that only a miniscule number of owners would ever drive their car in those conditions.
I've seen quite a few here in the various dealerships and car shows and while I also am in awe of the technical engineering and what it is capable of doing, it also leaves me cold.
I think it would be like when you get the cheats in a game - fun for the initial part of being able to beat all and sundry but after that, what's the point?
Euromillions and the like...well, given how McF1 prices have gone, I'd have to be content with an LFA and driving that around - equally as 'useable' as the Veyron/Chiron but far more accessible in being to exploit, on a regular basis, more of what it is capable of. And the noise too :-)
It would be very interesting to see from the data logging at services (and I am sure VW have this) the percentage of Veyrons/Chirons have have approached what they are capable of performance wise and for how long.
BlackWidow13 said:
alfaspecial said:
howardhughes said:
alfaspecial said:
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"Perhaps now would be the time to mention that, even if you're doing the official combined fuel consumption figure of just under 12mpg, the £124 it would cost to fill that 22-gallon tank would need to be spent again after just 240 miles. YMMV of course. If you were driving at 248mph everywhere, as you might in parts of the Middle East, you would be getting 1.7mpg. "
End Quote.
Question: Which car would win this race: From central Bath to Keswick, - a distance of 278 miles via Ambleside (287 if via Penrith M6 junction) - a Bugatti Veyron or a Citroen C1?
The race regulation(s) being that
1) All roads have been closed off specially for the race, and
2) Both cars must travel at maximum throttle, through every gear, at all times
Answer: It probably wouldn't be the Veyron!
Why? At 1.7mpg the Veyron would empty it's tank every 37 miles - given that the British motorway network has service stations at an average distance of 28 miles, you would have to slow down, pull in, stop, fill up with fuel (pay for it!) - and then accelerate back up to full speed - at every single service station
The hare and the tortoise!
Still I'd love to be the one to have actually 'lost' after having driven a Veyron at full chat though!
Don't take this the wrong way, but I think you need to get out more, (Covid permitting of course)"Perhaps now would be the time to mention that, even if you're doing the official combined fuel consumption figure of just under 12mpg, the £124 it would cost to fill that 22-gallon tank would need to be spent again after just 240 miles. YMMV of course. If you were driving at 248mph everywhere, as you might in parts of the Middle East, you would be getting 1.7mpg. "
End Quote.
Question: Which car would win this race: From central Bath to Keswick, - a distance of 278 miles via Ambleside (287 if via Penrith M6 junction) - a Bugatti Veyron or a Citroen C1?
The race regulation(s) being that
1) All roads have been closed off specially for the race, and
2) Both cars must travel at maximum throttle, through every gear, at all times
Answer: It probably wouldn't be the Veyron!
Why? At 1.7mpg the Veyron would empty it's tank every 37 miles - given that the British motorway network has service stations at an average distance of 28 miles, you would have to slow down, pull in, stop, fill up with fuel (pay for it!) - and then accelerate back up to full speed - at every single service station
The hare and the tortoise!
Still I'd love to be the one to have actually 'lost' after having driven a Veyron at full chat though!
Edited by alfaspecial on Sunday 4th April 04:00
By my calculation it would cost you £996 in petrol to make the journey, which is small change when calculating the costs in tyres -
287miles @ £1081 per mile = £310 thousand pounds!
Quote
"The price for a full set of tyres is around £25,000 today, which is another bargain as that used to be nearer to £40,000. Through its own testing Bugatti found that at a steady 248mph the tyres would be shot after 37 miles. If you took the top tyre cost estimate that would equate to £1,081 a mile just for rubber."
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@Gad-Westy You'd also have to allow time to stop for new tyres SEVEN times on the journey in the Veyron......
Repeat Quote "Through its own testing Bugatti found that at a steady 248mph the tyres would be shot after 37 miles." End Quote
287 / 37 = 7.75 times
Just under £2800 per minute. In tyres.
I thought the comment was rather strange too..
The story is about The Veyron itself and what it achieved in technical brilliance and engineering excellence..
Some very strange, grumpy and just totally negative people on this site, it seriously makes you regret coming to the comment section or even this site altogether..
Shame!!!
The story is about The Veyron itself and what it achieved in technical brilliance and engineering excellence..
MyV10BarksAndBites said:
rotaryjam said:
I find these very Brutish in looks and engineering.
A monkey could tell you that sticking a massive engine in a car, bolting on 4 turbos and 10 radiators to cool it all will make a fast car - hardly a sophisticated approach.
I'd much rather something like an F1 personally.
What a strange comment, everything you said can be applied to almost every car....A monkey could tell you that sticking a massive engine in a car, bolting on 4 turbos and 10 radiators to cool it all will make a fast car - hardly a sophisticated approach.
I'd much rather something like an F1 personally.
Some very strange, grumpy and just totally negative people on this site, it seriously makes you regret coming to the comment section or even this site altogether..
Shame!!!
MissChief said:
Technically and mechanically it's a thing of wonder. An Engineering wet dream made whole.
As an actual personal conveyance? it leaves me cold. Even if i were to win the Euromillions five times in a row I don't think I'd ever have one. Or maybe just rent one for a few weeks, just to say you've driven it.
Yes. I’d love to take one to bits to see how it all works and is packaged but I don’t really want one. As an actual personal conveyance? it leaves me cold. Even if i were to win the Euromillions five times in a row I don't think I'd ever have one. Or maybe just rent one for a few weeks, just to say you've driven it.
For my 800 grand I’d be buying a diesel with more wings , less faffing about in maintenance and more chance to use the performance.
rotaryjam said:
I find these very Brutish in looks and engineering.
A monkey could tell you that sticking a massive engine in a car, bolting on 4 turbos and 10 radiators to cool it all will make a fast car - hardly a sophisticated approach.
I'd much rather something like an F1 personally.
That would be an impressive monkey to be fairA monkey could tell you that sticking a massive engine in a car, bolting on 4 turbos and 10 radiators to cool it all will make a fast car - hardly a sophisticated approach.
I'd much rather something like an F1 personally.
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