RE: Maserati Ghibli GT (AM336) | The Brave Pill

RE: Maserati Ghibli GT (AM336) | The Brave Pill

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voxcont

38 posts

76 months

Saturday 1st May 2021
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pSyCoSiS said:
That looks stunning. Always loved the muscular stance on these. Remind me of a modern day De Tomaso.

Would prefer black wood trim and full blood leather - the walnut looks a bit odd with red and grey.

Otherwise, the best example you can currently buy.
Yes - that's it described perfectly - a muscular stance.

The overall design really only makes full sense when you see one in person. There's a chap up here in Edinburgh with a silver Ghibli Cup. I've seen it a couple of times (many years ago) and it excited me a lot more than many other cars I had high hopes for ever have, such as the F12 I saw today which sounded so disappointingly bloody lame at low speeds, and didn't really stand out from the crowd as much as I would have expected it too - what a shame.

With the MK1 Ghiblis going for at least £150K, I wonder if cars of the era (1990s) will ever be nurtured into old age and increase in value to a similar degree - with the move towards toxic-battery powered EVs I fear that a lot of these beautiful cars will be taxed off the roads.

GTRene

16,741 posts

225 months

Saturday 1st May 2021
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s m said:
Always fancied the Karif too after the CAR front page back in the late 80s
I like those as well, they are so strange...that I like them or sort off biggrin
A while ago I bought a little scale model 1/43 of one, why? I don't know, looked so cute/good.

I was looking for al my ex cars in 1/43 and then you also come across a lot other nice cars...



My dad also owned 2 maserati's, his first was a nice blue metallic biturbo v6 4dr and years later he bought a very nice Shamal, great sound of the V8 when you stood behind the car, but when you drove it you could almost not hear that song, but a lovely car.

Sometimes I thought about bying a nice 2 door V6 with great interior for not much (some come cheap) and then give it a V8 swap, those cars have a lovely shape, class and cool, more cool then another bmw 3-serie








Edited by GTRene on Saturday 1st May 23:35

voxcont

38 posts

76 months

Saturday 1st May 2021
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GTRene said:
I like those as well, they are so strange...that I like them or sort off biggrin
A while ago I bought a little scale model 1/43 of one, why? I don't know, looked so cute/good.

I was looking for al my ex cars in 1/43 and then you also come across a lot other nice cars...

My dad also owned 2 maserati's, his first was a nice blue metallic biturbo v6 4dr and years later he bought a very nice Shamal, great sound of the V8 when you stood behind the car, but when you drove it you could almost not hear that song, but a lovely car.

Sometimes I thought about bying a nice 2 door V6 with great interior for not much (some come cheap) and then give it a V8 swap, those cars have a lovely shape, class and cool, more cool then another bmw 3-serie
If he still has the receipt for his Shamal your dad needs to go back to the dealer and complain as he was actually sold a Karif from the photos!!!!

I jest - the Shamal is an absolute beast - your father must have been at the top of his game to have one of those. Respect!

P5BNij

15,875 posts

107 months

Sunday 2nd May 2021
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voxcont said:
pSyCoSiS said:
That looks stunning. Always loved the muscular stance on these. Remind me of a modern day De Tomaso.

Would prefer black wood trim and full blood leather - the walnut looks a bit odd with red and grey.

Otherwise, the best example you can currently buy.
Yes - that's it described perfectly - a muscular stance.

The overall design really only makes full sense when you see one in person. There's a chap up here in Edinburgh with a silver Ghibli Cup. I've seen it a couple of times (many years ago) and it excited me a lot more than many other cars I had high hopes for ever have, such as the F12 I saw today which sounded so disappointingly bloody lame at low speeds, and didn't really stand out from the crowd as much as I would have expected it too - what a shame.

With the MK1 Ghiblis going for at least £150K, I wonder if cars of the era (1990s) will ever be nurtured into old age and increase in value to a similar degree - with the move towards toxic-battery powered EVs I fear that a lot of these beautiful cars will be taxed off the roads.
Just a couple of months ago I got ridiculously excited at the sight of a four door 430 parked outside a local body shop for a couple of days, Masers of that period are such a rare thing these days.

I think Dicky should do the decent thing and donate the Ghibli II to PH so those amongst us afflicted with the Maserati bug can take turns at sampling the good life.... wink

P5BNij

15,875 posts

107 months

Sunday 2nd May 2021
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Spotted this beauty at Gaydon a few years ago, pictures don't really do these cars justice, they have so much presence in the flesh....





s m

23,302 posts

204 months

Sunday 2nd May 2021
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GTRene said:
s m said:
Always fancied the Karif too after the CAR front page back in the late 80s
I like those as well, they are so strange...that I like them or sort off biggrin
A while ago I bought a little scale model 1/43 of one, why? I don't know, looked so cute/good.

I was looking for al my ex cars in 1/43 and then you also come across a lot other nice cars...



Very fast for nearly 35 years back ....even if everyone’s diesel bus is a lot faster now

birdcage

2,842 posts

206 months

Sunday 2nd May 2021
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I reckon you could have taken one of these from the factory and driven it to your local specialist and they would have quoted 12k to get it perfect

ducnick

1,808 posts

244 months

Sunday 2nd May 2021
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s m said:
GTRene said:
s m said:
Always fancied the Karif too after the CAR front page back in the late 80s
I like those as well, they are so strange...that I like them or sort off biggrin
A while ago I bought a little scale model 1/43 of one, why? I don't know, looked so cute/good.

I was looking for al my ex cars in 1/43 and then you also come across a lot other nice cars...



Very fast for nearly 35 years back ....even if everyone’s diesel bus is a lot faster now
You do need to remember that it’s Italian seconds. The Karif was genuinely rapid though. These cars were not about massive top speed, they were geared for real world progress. I remember my 1987 biturbo could put some more modern cars to shame in the 0-70 dash when I had it 20 yrs ago. Stopping on the other hand was not it’s strong point. One thing I remember about my time behind the wheel of a ghibli cup was that they sounded dull compared to the earlier carb fed 3 valve per cylinder engines.

cluckcluck

851 posts

186 months

Sunday 2nd May 2021
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What a banger

GTRene

16,741 posts

225 months

Sunday 2nd May 2021
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voxcont said:
If he still has the receipt for his Shamal your dad needs to go back to the dealer and complain as he was actually sold a Karif from the photos!!!!

I jest - the Shamal is an absolute beast - your father must have been at the top of his game to have one of those. Respect!
lol, yes the photo is a kariff, my dad had a real Shamal ofcourse and a big smile, here a old scanned in picture of him in his beloved Shamal, almost 25+ years ago I guess, when he sold it I found out that the owner or 2? after him changed the car to the worst... and later again someone else changed it again I believe, anyhow, my dad kept it original and like new.



the colour combo is more dark brown-ish it was exactly like this one, maybe its the same, not sure>>



and ow, sadly my dad is already gone, back in 03-01-2005... full of energie, never ill (or stubborn did not want to be) working in his other hobby, a vegetable garden, bam...and gone with no one around.

neutral 3

6,504 posts

171 months

Monday 3rd May 2021
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There should only Ever have been one Ghibli, the original one !!
My Late Dad had a gorgeous Oro gold 68 Ghibli from 74 to his trajic death in Sept 75
How Maserati could call the first cars, ugly successors Ghibli, is simply appalling ........

neutral 3

6,504 posts

171 months

Monday 3rd May 2021
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High Beach, Epping Forest, 74 or 75.

IMI A

9,424 posts

202 months

Monday 3rd May 2021
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Love these. Just don't see where you fit in a modern garage and there's cooler classic cars. If it was manual Ghibli cup however or just a manual Ghibli just buy! The black Shamal above is porn.

Arsecati

2,333 posts

118 months

Monday 3rd May 2021
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benzinbob said:
Named after wind, will probably turn into a stty mess before too soon but just look how cool it is
Well it's holding up pretty well for 22 years and 84k miles, so why would it suddenly turn in to a stty mess now?

moskvich427

227 posts

176 months

Monday 3rd May 2021
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I stopped watching The Grand Tour when they were cruel to three 80s Mazzers...

Definitely a 'Pill', but they still seem cheap compared to other exotica


larrylamb11

592 posts

252 months

Monday 3rd May 2021
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Fabulous and all that... but auto? No thanks...

SOOOooo much better in manual trans configuration - much better access to the boost zone where the fun really kicks in. Properly quick when worked too and rather missing the point to pretend its a boulevard cruiser... A car for enjoying in frantic high adrenaline bursts, with plenty of down time for the rather inadequate brakes to cool down.

I eventually got bored and moved on after the second complete month of sitting at the windscreen fitters shop waiting for the right screen to arrive.... and that must have been 20 years ago. They were already hard to get stuff for back then...

Still... it's an old flame I'd revisit if I could find a half decent manual that wasn't rotten...

Bencolem

1,027 posts

240 months

Monday 3rd May 2021
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I remember a lovely green one on Salvage hunters classic cars that I might have shed a tear for when they sold it for like only £12,000 two years ago...

Bencolem

1,027 posts

240 months

Monday 3rd May 2021
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Bencolem said:
I remember a lovely green one on Salvage hunters classic cars that I might have shed a tear for when they sold it for like only £12,000 two years ago...
Found it - this was the one with 58,000 miles:

https://www.sportsmaserati.co.uk/index.php?threads...

944 Man

1,744 posts

133 months

Monday 3rd May 2021
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I have always liked the Bi-Turbo, but no matter how cheap they became, I always had the sense not to buy one.

This is beautiful, and I was looking at an £18,000 Ghibli only the other evening, but even if a year plus of lockdown had not cleared me out, I still would not be brave enough.

Being honest, I was browsing 3200 or V8 coupes, but they seemed to have increased in value post-TG.

Dunk130TC

328 posts

191 months

Monday 3rd May 2021
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I took the pill and survived, to be fair it wasn’t particularly brave as I bought mine from Richard Grace too. He has an excellent well deserved reputation, I ran the Ghibli for c.3 years and it behaved impeccably. The previous owner had spent mega money, had it been a manual I’d probably still have it. Whilst the auto does suit the car well, it didn’t work for me.
Find me a decent manual and I’d definitely have another.
Originally L299RTP and stickered for LeMans:


Edited by Dunk130TC on Monday 3rd May 21:26