RE: £20m Rolls-Royce Boat Tail opens 'Coachbuilt'

RE: £20m Rolls-Royce Boat Tail opens 'Coachbuilt'

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Chubbyross

4,568 posts

87 months

Thursday 27th May 2021
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Maybe I’m being a little naive here but how much would it cost to buy a standard car and get a coach builder to do the work?

The spinner of plates

17,786 posts

202 months

Thursday 27th May 2021
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Well nobody ever said that ‘bespoke’ and ‘exclusivity’ came cheap.

dunnoreally

1,001 posts

110 months

Thursday 27th May 2021
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The industry will keep raising prices for this stuff for as long as there are people willing to pay. I wonder how high it will get before they can't find a buyer. £50m? £200m? Somewhere over a billion, even?

RosscoPCole

3,348 posts

176 months

Thursday 27th May 2021
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How does the roof work? It looks very complicated.

big_rob_sydney

3,424 posts

196 months

Thursday 27th May 2021
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I don't know what it is, but it looks wrong to me. Maybe calling it a Max Power makeunder is a bit critical, but this really looks just off.

Martin 480 Turbo

605 posts

189 months

Thursday 27th May 2021
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Venturist said:



However, it is encouraging to see coachbuilding coming back again, slowly but surely.

Edited by Venturist on Thursday 27th May 17:53
If really "coachbuilt" in the vain of "the great gatsby" they should have stayed true to that sketch. If it means the Roller becomes a 36 foot yacht, so be it. Reducing it to plebeian measurements seems a shameful waste of opportunity.

MDL111

7,006 posts

179 months

Thursday 27th May 2021
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Martin 480 Turbo said:
Venturist said:



However, it is encouraging to see coachbuilding coming back again, slowly but surely.

Edited by Venturist on Thursday 27th May 17:53
If really "coachbuilt" in the vain of "the great gatsby" they should have stayed true to that sketch. If it means the Roller becomes a 36 foot yacht, so be it. Reducing it to plebeian measurements seems a shameful waste of opportunity.
Sketch looks stunning

shih tzu faced

2,597 posts

51 months

Thursday 27th May 2021
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Absolutely disgusting thing in every sense. The styling, the price tag, the ostentation etc...

Also, normal sized people always seem to look comically tiny in these enormous convertibles, especially when they have the roof down for some reason.

I'd like to think that if I could ever afford to spend £20 million on a trinket like this, I'd remember that just because I can, it doesn't mean I should.

E63eeeeee...

4,014 posts

51 months

Thursday 27th May 2021
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RosscoPCole said:
How does the roof work? It looks very complicated.
The staff take it away. If it rains you put the umbrella up.

virgilio

427 posts

147 months

Thursday 27th May 2021
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As a caricature of the lack of correlation between money and sense it is hilarious, in a “naked gun” kind of way.

I just wonder whether the damage each of these things create to what remains of the Royce brand exceeds or not the £19.5m net profit it will likely bring into bmw’s bank account?

ducnick

1,828 posts

245 months

Thursday 27th May 2021
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Can’t help thinking it would be both cheaper, more stylish and more exclusive to buy a RR then send it to Zagato or Touring for a rebody.

For 20m I would want lady Penelope’s six wheeler and a Parker.

Hairymonster

1,449 posts

107 months

Thursday 27th May 2021
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When extreme wealth gets to someone's head and they feel the need to invest in something like this, so they can mingle with similarly monied types, then they have kind of lost touch with reality.

A car collector buying a 250GTO is buying something he loves. Buying one of these things is to illustrate that you can.

I read that Warren Buffet, one of the top 3 or 4 wealthiest people in the world, still lives in a modest house he's had for over 50 years and treats himself to a new Cadillac every 3 years. He was interviewed once and asked why he'd never bought some white-washed mansion with helipad, swimming pools, manicured lawns and more.

He said "Would I be happier living in a house worth $100 million? Not really. What would change is that all the friends and family that have always dropped in any time or come round for lunch, would stop doing so. For them, it would change who I am and I don't really want that, nor do i need it." *words to that effect.

BlackandWhite

363 posts

196 months

Thursday 27th May 2021
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Oh what a jolly wheeze,

PhantomPH

4,043 posts

227 months

Thursday 27th May 2021
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JPvanRossem said:
PhantomPH said:
1,000 Fiesta STs. A THOUSAND.
I can understand why someone would want this Roller.

Can't understand why someone would want a thousand Fiestas.
It was the first example that I thought of.

How about:

250 Porsche GT4s or
133 Porsche GT3s or
60 Rolls Royce Phantoms or
44 Ferrari SF90s

It's not about the car - I was trying to illustrate the materials and engineering that £20m buys you - and then trying to rationalise it to one new car that is essentially a Phantom Drophead with a new body on.

Again, with the rest of my original comment that you did not quote, this is not a car that has attained value due to rarity or heritage - it's a new car that someone has tacked a 6,000% mark up on.

austinsmirk

5,597 posts

125 months

Thursday 27th May 2021
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It’s lovely but surely you could buy the base car, 5-10 rolls employees and have them knock it up, give them enough to retire on and still be quids in.

But it is truly beautiful though.

PhantomPH

4,043 posts

227 months

Thursday 27th May 2021
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Hairymonster said:
When extreme wealth gets to someone's head and they feel the need to invest in something like this, so they can mingle with similarly monied types, then they have kind of lost touch with reality.

A car collector buying a 250GTO is buying something he loves. Buying one of these things is to illustrate that you can.

I read that Warren Buffet, one of the top 3 or 4 wealthiest people in the world, still lives in a modest house he's had for over 50 years and treats himself to a new Cadillac every 3 years. He was interviewed once and asked why he'd never bought some white-washed mansion with helipad, swimming pools, manicured lawns and more.

He said "Would I be happier living in a house worth $100 million? Not really. What would change is that all the friends and family that have always dropped in any time or come round for lunch, would stop doing so. For them, it would change who I am and I don't really want that, nor do i need it." *words to that effect.
I forget which documentary I watched, but every morning when he goes to the office his wife gives him a few dollars to buy an egg muffin on the way. If the markets are up, he will treat himself to an extra item for another 70 cents (or equally as trivial an amount). That's actually the sort of other end of the spectrum - I would encourage the guy to spend a bit of his money and allow himself the treats every day.

Ollieb7

379 posts

200 months

Thursday 27th May 2021
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Very Liberace!

drpep

1,760 posts

170 months

Thursday 27th May 2021
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It's a stunning piece of design work but surely this should be priced somewhere a little less cosmic than £20,000,000.00. £3-5m I would understand, but then if you can charge £20m, why wouldn't you charge £20m.

What a time to be alive.

Evolved

3,586 posts

189 months

Thursday 27th May 2021
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MDL111 said:
Martin 480 Turbo said:
Venturist said:



However, it is encouraging to see coachbuilding coming back again, slowly but surely.

Edited by Venturist on Thursday 27th May 17:53
If really "coachbuilt" in the vain of "the great gatsby" they should have stayed true to that sketch. If it means the Roller becomes a 36 foot yacht, so be it. Reducing it to plebeian measurements seems a shameful waste of opportunity.
Sketch looks stunning
The finished article to the sketch looks like those Ferrari kitted MR2’s to the real thing. Just ridiculous.

mini me

1,435 posts

195 months

Thursday 27th May 2021
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E63eeeeee... said:
My normal redistributionist instincts are occasionally slightly undermined when I remember that some spectacular and amazing things have been created by concentrated wealth, that wouldn't otherwise exist, and the world would be a slightly sadder place for it.

This is not one of those things.

For that kind of money you could have a ludicrously nice hypercar, a butler in a sprinter with a full luxury dining set in the back, and a years worth of quails eggs, and still have £18m and change to give to charity (or build a hospital or whatever). Maybe I'd be a rubbish billionaire.
I think you would make a very good billionaire sir. Do you have an application form for the role of butler? And how much are you paying?