Holy Moly... WHO bought this?
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Whilst I am glad there's someone around who wants to try this - I do think most of these conversions look, well a bit rubbish really.
I saw this abomination the other day (or one identical to it) and although it was nice to see such an unusual car being used, it wasn't particularly nice to see.
I saw this abomination the other day (or one identical to it) and although it was nice to see such an unusual car being used, it wasn't particularly nice to see.
soxboy said:
Looks like Coway were dissolved in October 2013, they had built hearses based on Rolls Royce Silver Spirits so I guess were used to chopping these up.
Is that a Volvo 740 tailgate?
Agree it may not look too bad painted in a dark blue or BRG.
I think you're right soxboy. Top half of tailgate is Volvo 740.Is that a Volvo 740 tailgate?
Agree it may not look too bad painted in a dark blue or BRG.
I owned an Avon XJ6 estate in the distant past and that had a Renault 5 tail end.
Thought I would restore the Bentley Brand a bit, with this Brooklands, which sold yesterday on https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1997-bentley-b... for £13,800 plus fees, which seems VERY good value.
This bit is bonkers....
Prior to this, the car received a full recommissioning service by Jack Barclay Bentley in March 2022 at 41,860 km. The invoice for the work totals 11 pages and £17,124.54, and is shown in the ‘Documents’ section of the image gallery.
...who would spend more than a car is worth on a "service" at this level of the market?
This bit is bonkers....
Prior to this, the car received a full recommissioning service by Jack Barclay Bentley in March 2022 at 41,860 km. The invoice for the work totals 11 pages and £17,124.54, and is shown in the ‘Documents’ section of the image gallery.
...who would spend more than a car is worth on a "service" at this level of the market?
MattsCar said:
Thought I would restore the Bentley Brand a bit, with this Brooklands, which sold yesterday on https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1997-bentley-b... for £13,800 plus fees, which seems VERY good value.
This bit is bonkers....
Prior to this, the car received a full recommissioning service by Jack Barclay Bentley in March 2022 at 41,860 km. The invoice for the work totals 11 pages and £17,124.54, and is shown in the ‘Documents’ section of the image gallery.
...who would spend more than a car is worth on a "service" at this level of the market?
Taking a car of that age to Jack B is surely asking for big bills. I doubt it’s immune from further big bills either. Great looking thing thoughThis bit is bonkers....
Prior to this, the car received a full recommissioning service by Jack Barclay Bentley in March 2022 at 41,860 km. The invoice for the work totals 11 pages and £17,124.54, and is shown in the ‘Documents’ section of the image gallery.
...who would spend more than a car is worth on a "service" at this level of the market?
Indeed, I'd love to know the story behind that idea, did someone think "I'll pop it into "Jacks" for a panel filter and oil change" and it all spiralled out of control?
Car has since thrown up some other big bills at the last service (2023) as well, ECU for suspension and more.
Saying that, If you stuck to two or three thousand miles a year, kept it garaged and gave it a few good long runs, it couldn't be over ruinous if you kept to a decent independent, surely? Budget £3k a year for servicing/ fixing (hoping the big jobs have been done), or am I living in cloud cuckoo land?
Car has since thrown up some other big bills at the last service (2023) as well, ECU for suspension and more.
Saying that, If you stuck to two or three thousand miles a year, kept it garaged and gave it a few good long runs, it couldn't be over ruinous if you kept to a decent independent, surely? Budget £3k a year for servicing/ fixing (hoping the big jobs have been done), or am I living in cloud cuckoo land?
Edited by MattsCar on Friday 10th May 20:03
MattsCar said:
Indeed, I'd love to know the story behind that idea, did someone think "I'll pop it into "Jacks" for a panel filter and oil change" and it all spiralled out of control?
Car has since thrown up some other big bills at the last service (2023) as well, ECU for suspension and more.
Saying that, If you stuck to two or three thousand miles a year, kept it garaged and gave it a few good long runs, it couldn't be over ruinous if you kept to a decent independent, surely? Budget £3k a year for servicing/ fixing (hoping the big jobs have been done), or am I living in cloud cuckoo land?
Even at Jack Barclay rates, £17k is a more than a service. "Recommissioning" something like this is a black hole of expenditure. But, it depends how you like your motoring, I guess. At this level of the market, you're basically immune to depreciation. Whatever the cost of upkeep, and it's going to be spendy, the most you can lose if you have to scrap it is a low five figure sum. But, when you're into six figures and upwards on purchase price, and the market dips, your cash losses can make the running costs seem like small change. Car has since thrown up some other big bills at the last service (2023) as well, ECU for suspension and more.
Saying that, If you stuck to two or three thousand miles a year, kept it garaged and gave it a few good long runs, it couldn't be over ruinous if you kept to a decent independent, surely? Budget £3k a year for servicing/ fixing (hoping the big jobs have been done), or am I living in cloud cuckoo land?
Edited by MattsCar on Friday 10th May 20:03
An ex-Steve McQueen Ferrari sold for $10m in 2014 and $5m last year. Regardless of the running costs, that's proper cloud cuckoo land.
Your £3k estimate for a well commissioned Bentley is probably about right.
One of my cars cost £750.
I have since spent £5k on it.
It is worth, at best £2k.
It still isn't finished.
Another one of my cars cost £27.5k
And will probably cost the same when it's all finished.
Perhaps – and this might come as a surprise to some – perhaps there is more to life than what things are 'worth'.
I have since spent £5k on it.
It is worth, at best £2k.
It still isn't finished.
Another one of my cars cost £27.5k
And will probably cost the same when it's all finished.
Perhaps – and this might come as a surprise to some – perhaps there is more to life than what things are 'worth'.
TIGA84 said:
Been done.
Out of interest I had a look what that registration is now on. I was thinking another Rolls, perhaps a Bentley or maybe a Mercedeshttps://www.check-mot.service.gov.uk/results?regis...
I was way off
NathanChadwick said:
One of my cars cost £750.
I have since spent £5k on it.
It is worth, at best £2k.
It still isn't finished.
Another one of my cars cost £27.5k
And will probably cost the same when it's all finished.
Perhaps – and this might come as a surprise to some – perhaps there is more to life than what things are 'worth'.
Indeed, but would you then sell the car a few months later, like the owner who spent £17k on that Bentley? Probably not. You have invested for the future with the intention to enjoy the car, I presume.I have since spent £5k on it.
It is worth, at best £2k.
It still isn't finished.
Another one of my cars cost £27.5k
And will probably cost the same when it's all finished.
Perhaps – and this might come as a surprise to some – perhaps there is more to life than what things are 'worth'.
This is coming from someone has spent close to the purchase price of a car by adding a special cog to the gearbox, an LSD and a few other gubbins in the last month. One way to ensure you never sell a car and avoid dealing with idiots is to spend an absolute fortune on upgraded parts, which you will never get back and make selling it a completely uneconomical/stupid move.
MattsCar said:
NathanChadwick said:
One of my cars cost £750.
I have since spent £5k on it.
It is worth, at best £2k.
It still isn't finished.
Another one of my cars cost £27.5k
And will probably cost the same when it's all finished.
Perhaps – and this might come as a surprise to some – perhaps there is more to life than what things are 'worth'.
Indeed, but would you then sell the car a few months later, like the owner who spent £17k on that Bentley? Probably not. You have invested for the future with the intention to enjoy the car, I presume.I have since spent £5k on it.
It is worth, at best £2k.
It still isn't finished.
Another one of my cars cost £27.5k
And will probably cost the same when it's all finished.
Perhaps – and this might come as a surprise to some – perhaps there is more to life than what things are 'worth'.
This is coming from someone has spent close to the purchase price of a car by adding a special cog to the gearbox, an LSD and a few other gubbins in the last month. One way to ensure you never sell a car and avoid dealing with idiots is to spend an absolute fortune on upgraded parts which you will never get back.
Rumdoodle said:
Even at Jack Barclay rates, £17k is a more than a service. "Recommissioning" something like this is a black hole of expenditure. But, it depends how you like your motoring, I guess. At this level of the market, you're basically immune to depreciation. Whatever the cost of upkeep, and it's going to be spendy, the most you can lose if you have to scrap it is a low five figure sum. But, when you're into six figures and upwards on purchase price, and the market dips, your cash losses can make the running costs seem like small change.
An ex-Steve McQueen Ferrari sold for $10m in 2014 and $5m last year. Regardless of the running costs, that's proper cloud cuckoo land.
Your £3k estimate for a well commissioned Bentley is probably about right.
An ex-Steve McQueen Ferrari sold for $10m in 2014 and $5m last year. Regardless of the running costs, that's proper cloud cuckoo land.
Your £3k estimate for a well commissioned Bentley is probably about right.
So, what your saying is that it would be a really smart financial move on the basis that if you spent a few million, you could potentially lose a lot more. I like that way of thinking.
Rumdoodle said:
Maybe something else unexpectedly pops up for sale - like a yellow Bentley estate at a £10k discount from a few years ago - and you really need the garage space?
Ha! Not my style. But....when you have keepers, you learn not to spend time browsing classified adverts, which when you work from home, for yourself, makes you considerably more productive.MattsCar said:
Rumdoodle said:
Even at Jack Barclay rates, £17k is a more than a service. "Recommissioning" something like this is a black hole of expenditure. But, it depends how you like your motoring, I guess. At this level of the market, you're basically immune to depreciation. Whatever the cost of upkeep, and it's going to be spendy, the most you can lose if you have to scrap it is a low five figure sum. But, when you're into six figures and upwards on purchase price, and the market dips, your cash losses can make the running costs seem like small change.
An ex-Steve McQueen Ferrari sold for $10m in 2014 and $5m last year. Regardless of the running costs, that's proper cloud cuckoo land.
Your £3k estimate for a well commissioned Bentley is probably about right.
An ex-Steve McQueen Ferrari sold for $10m in 2014 and $5m last year. Regardless of the running costs, that's proper cloud cuckoo land.
Your £3k estimate for a well commissioned Bentley is probably about right.
So, what your saying is that it would be a really smart financial move on the basis that if you spent a few million, you could potentially lose a lot more. I like that way of thinking.
MattsCar said:
Rumdoodle said:
Maybe something else unexpectedly pops up for sale - like a yellow Bentley estate at a £10k discount from a few years ago - and you really need the garage space?
Ha! Not my style. But....when you have keepers, you learn not to spend time browsing classified adverts, which when you work from home, for yourself, makes you considerably more productive.Rumdoodle said:
I have been working on this theory for a while, and I use it to justify owning the cheapest V12 Ferrari model in the world ever. Why pay more?
I recognise the thread and car! What a beautiful car.I remember in 1995, my 10 year old ill informed and non-worldly self, reading the "car section" of the times and seeing 400/412s selling in the classifieds for £10/12k. Questioning my Dad why he was buying a Nissan Primera for the same price and being surprised when he basically called me an idiot.
MattsCar said:
Indeed, but would you then sell the car a few months later, like the owner who spent £17k on that Bentley? Probably not. You have invested for the future with the intention to enjoy the car, I presume.
This is coming from someone has spent close to the purchase price of a car by adding a special cog to the gearbox, an LSD and a few other gubbins in the last month. One way to ensure you never sell a car and avoid dealing with idiots is to spend an absolute fortune on upgraded parts, which you will never get back and make selling it a completely uneconomical/stupid move.
As others have said and, considering the nature of the car, perhaps the car needed to be sold before they could really enjoy it. There is also a frame of mind among some people that they want the car to be the best it is before they sell it on, regardless of cost, for fear of what might happens if someone goes awry. Not necessarily from a legal point of view, more from an ethical one.This is coming from someone has spent close to the purchase price of a car by adding a special cog to the gearbox, an LSD and a few other gubbins in the last month. One way to ensure you never sell a car and avoid dealing with idiots is to spend an absolute fortune on upgraded parts, which you will never get back and make selling it a completely uneconomical/stupid move.
My father – not a car enthusiast – has routinely put fresh tyres on his cars before selling them, even though they're a year old in some cases.
Other people - 'proper' car enthusiasts – will dump a car on a private sale/auction sale/trade in knowing full well there's a timebomb on their hands.
These same 'proper' car enthusiasts also moan when dealers put a premium on the cars bought at auction or on trade in... I wonder where that premium's gone...
Hmmm
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