Tyre Stretching!!! PH strikes again.

[Frederick]

Looks st. Definitely makes the car look like a roller skate.

C&U does say tyre, but if I was bib and I saw someone driving with stretched tyres, I'd try my damnedest to issue a prohibition notice on the car.

Edited by Frederick on Saturday 12th July 19:39

[BountyHunter]

big dub said:

There is no law stipulating how far the rims stick out, only that the tread of the tyre is covered by the wheel arch.

as i stated earlier, a member of a south wales forum got 3 points this week for wheels that stick out past the arch.

heres the car in question - surprise surprise its a vw


looks stupid and is blatantly wrong.
thing is you cant go on about "oh it passed an MOT like it" as the MOT is for checking the condition of wearing parts, not to test the legality of the design

Edited by BountyHunter on Saturday 12th July 19:40

[BountyHunter]

Balmoral Green said:

T
It's generally accepted that the wheel must not protrude beyond the arch. If the exact letter of the law does indeed state 'tyre' rather than 'wheel' or 'rim', then you may have a 'get out of jail free card'.

part of the tyre is protruding anyways on both the pic i posted and the one the OP did.
its not a part with tread,but technically its still tyre.

Edited by BountyHunter on Saturday 12th July 19:45

[Thudd]

So are the police rounding up these dangerous crims for a good flogging, or not?

[Munter]

big dub said:

There is no law stipulating how far the rims stick out, only that the tread of the tyre is covered by the wheel arch.

someone on police forum said:

Council Directive 78/549/EEC of 12 June 1978 on the approximation of the laws of the Member States relating to the wheel guards of motor vehicles

2.1.2. The rear of the wheel guards must not terminate above a horizontal plane 150 mm above the axis of rotation of the wheels (as measured at the wheel centres) and furthermore the intersection of the edge of the wheel guard with this plane (point A, figure 1) must lie outside the median longitudinal plane of the tyre, or in the case of twin wheels the median longitudinal plane of the outermost tyre.

2.1.3. The contour and location of the wheel guards shall be such that they are as close to the tyre as possible ; and in particular within the part formed by the radial planes referred to in 2.1.1, they shall satisfy the following requirements: 2.1.3.1. the projection - situated in the vertical plane of the tyre axis - of the depth (p) of the outer edge of the wheel guards, measured in the vertical longitudinal plane passing through the centre of the tyre, must be at least 30 mm. This depth (p) may be reduced progressively to zero at the radial planes specified in 2.1.1;

It makes NO mention of the tread of the tyre. Just "the tyre". That would include the sidewall which is going most of the way across the width of the rim minus say 5mm...

[fathomfive]

So lets set a little scene here......

Guy driving along in his VW, tyres stretched as in the pics, has a blowout and loses control of the car. Unfortunately he careers into a queue at a bus stop and injures some people. It is discovered the tyres were being run out of manufacturer spec.

Question: what happens?

[Munter]

fathomfive said:

So lets set a little scene here......

Guy driving along in his VW, tyres stretched as in the pics, has a blowout and loses control of the car. Unfortunately he careers into a queue at a bus stop and injures some people. It is discovered the tyres were being run out of manufacturer spec.

Question: what happens?

Also covered on the police forum Gazboy gave a link to. Basically it was the posters opinion the driver would be looking at jail time, points and fines.

[jimmyb]

This thread simply shows pistonheads seems to be becoming pistonchavs more and more.People posting pics of silly (potentially dangerous ) mods to their cars and threads about modded cars.

[carl_w]

BountyHunter said:

big dub said:

There is no law stipulating how far the rims stick out, only that the tread of the tyre is covered by the wheel arch.

as i stated earlier, a member of a south wales forum got 3 points this week for wheels that stick out past the arch.

heres the car in question - surprise surprise its a vw


looks stupid and is blatantly wrong.
thing is you cant go on about "oh it passed an MOT like it" as the MOT is for checking the condition of wearing parts, not to test the legality of the design

Edited by BountyHunter on Saturday 12th July 19:40

Some of the pictures on the previous thread had sidewalls that were virtually horizontal at the point they met the rim.

[BountyHunter]

Munter said:

fathomfive said:

So lets set a little scene here......

Guy driving along in his VW, tyres stretched as in the pics, has a blowout and loses control of the car. Unfortunately he careers into a queue at a bus stop and injures some people. It is discovered the tyres were being run out of manufacturer spec.

Question: what happens?

Also covered on the police forum Gazboy gave a link to. Basically it was the posters opinion the driver would be looking at jail time, points and fines.

i suspect the driver would try and claim ignorance that it was unsafe - but what about the tyre fitter ?

Edited by BountyHunter on Saturday 12th July 22:04

[BountyHunter]

carl_w said:

Some of the pictures on the previous thread had sidewalls that were virtually horizontal at the point they met the rim.

jeeez

[carl_w]

BountyHunter said:

jeeez

[Frederick]

carl_w said:

BountyHunter said:

jeeez

just how can people think that looks good? I'm at a total loss myself...

[BountyHunter]

Frederick said:

just how can people think that looks good? I'm at a total loss myself...

not just that (and i do agree) but how can they think its safe

[carl_w]

Clearly the bit that normally attaches to the rim is exposed around the edge of the wheel. And the bit that is actually attached to the rim in this case is part of the inner sidewall of the tyre.

[kambites]

It's not illegal to run such wheels as long as the insurance companies are OK with it. I suspect the majority of insurance companies would just laugh at you if you tried to make a claim with tyres like that on a car though... mine certainly state that the tyres have to be operating within the manufacturers guidelines.

[trackdemon]

carl_w said:

BountyHunter said:

jeeez

Holy sh!t. Why? Just, why?

[Ordinary Bloke]

The look reminds me of some 70's/80's Formula One rear tyres which looked like they were trying to 'leave' the rims under cornering loads.

I can sort-of understand why people who can't afford to buy the car of their dreams have to use their imagination to make something interesting.

But it looks dangerous/illegal, and mainly 'wrong' to me...

[Athlon]

4.1:c : d of the inspection guide would be enough for me to refuse to test/fail the car, I doubt any VOSA inspector would question my judgement on that one.

Edited by Athlon on Saturday 12th July 22:54 becaue the format posted a smile where d was !

Edited by Athlon on Saturday 12th July 22:55

[Flintstone]

kambites said:

It's not illegal to run such wheels as long as the insurance companies are OK with it.

Then insurance companies dictate law now? I think not.