I know its generally frowned upon but....

I know its generally frowned upon but....

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polosaremint

200 posts

190 months

Sunday 1st March 2009
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HereBeMonsters said:
Surely you can just get the lowering effect by filling the boot full of ICE with your 15% discount, paint your current wheels with rattle cans (shake well first) and then do a few burnouts to make your current tyres into semi-slicks?
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sploosh

822 posts

210 months

Sunday 1st March 2009
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Modifying the car will lower its value and invalidate your insurance.

Spend the money on something you'll enjoy.

Track day, supercar experience?

You could go the Le Mans for that sort of cash!!

Utterly Clueless

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1,981 posts

195 months

Sunday 1st March 2009
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sploosh said:
Modifying the car will lower its value and invalidate your insurance.

Spend the money on something you'll enjoy.

Track day, supercar experience?

You could go the Le Mans for that sort of cash!!
lowered value, yes, but only if i sell it with the modification, which i wont, revert to stock, sell car as stock, sell parts on a VW forum as there are a few 'euro style' fans about so surely someone will buy them.

Insurance, yes it will invalidate it, but only if i dont declare the modifications. being that im not chavvy pikey scum it will be declared thus giving me valid insurance.

HereBeMonsters said:
Surely you can just get the lowering effect by filling the boot full of ICE with your 15% discount, paint your current wheels with rattle cans (shake well first) and then do a few burnouts to make your current tyres into semi-slicks?
Please, dont insult me. Maybe the people you choose to be around do this, thats fine with me, i dont judge people by their friend or what they do. I wont bite and have a go back as everyone is entitled to their opinions, some are stupider than others but thats life (OK maybe i'll have a nibble, but not a full bite)

darkyoung1000

2,052 posts

198 months

Sunday 1st March 2009
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Aren't Mk3s 5 stud not 4 stud? If so, Speedlines might look good, are OEM and available for buttons from Corrado owners.

Cheers,
Tom

Utterly Clueless

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1,981 posts

195 months

Sunday 1st March 2009
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darkyoung1000 said:
Aren't Mk3s 5 stud not 4 stud? If so, Speedlines might look good, are OEM and available for buttons from Corrado owners.

Cheers,
Tom
no, standard golfs are 4 stud, GTi's and VR6's are 5 stud.

Thom

ZeeTacoe

5,444 posts

224 months

Sunday 1st March 2009
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Utterly Clueless said:
Also another justification for new wheels is at 15" i can get some decent tires, and have more choice than i do at 14". which is good, given that at 0.9leptons round the evo triangle the car hopped about like a fking kangaroo on 'e' as the tires gripped lost grip and regained grip numerous times during the corners. some decent tires and stiffer/lower suspension and i think it'd handle a fair amount better than it does now.
Do you really think stiffer and lower suspension will help a 1.6 litre shopping trolley handle better? Just give up spending money on stupid things for a shopping car and save up for something else, something designed to do corners and country lanes quickly.

darkyoung1000

2,052 posts

198 months

Sunday 1st March 2009
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Well I learned something today! In which case, if you're willing to consider OEM wheels, then the 4 stud Sebrings from a 1.8 16v C look good on a Golf IMO, although the BBS wheels from a standard G60 C are even better (though a pig to keep clean). Other options might be ATS Cups if they do them in 15" dia.
I'd avoid cheap new wheels personally, and spend at least £200 on a set of Toyos.

Cheers,
Tom

Utterly Clueless

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1,981 posts

195 months

Sunday 1st March 2009
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ZeeTacoe said:
Utterly Clueless said:
Also another justification for new wheels is at 15" i can get some decent tires, and have more choice than i do at 14". which is good, given that at 0.9leptons round the evo triangle the car hopped about like a fking kangaroo on 'e' as the tires gripped lost grip and regained grip numerous times during the corners. some decent tires and stiffer/lower suspension and i think it'd handle a fair amount better than it does now.
Do you really think stiffer and lower suspension will help a 1.6 litre shopping trolley handle better? Just give up spending money on stupid things for a shopping car and save up for something else, something designed to do corners and country lanes quickly.
Well i may be wrong but i thought stiffer suspension decreased body roll and kept tires in contact with ground better. i was also under the impressions that lowering the car lowered center of gravity thus reducing body roll, as far as i am aware wider wheels allow for wider tires thus meaning more rubber on the road and there for increasing grip levels. so forgive me if im wrong but wouldnt those things amount to improved (no matter how little) handling?

Volvo had a racing team did they not, they are hefty cars, did uprated suspension,wheels and tires not contribute to them going around a corner better than stock form??

If im wrong then so be it, but please dont take me for someone who doesnt know an exhaust from an engine mount, i may not know much, but i like to think i have a slight idea.

darkyoung1000 said:
Well I learned something today! In which case, if you're willing to consider OEM wheels, then the 4 stud Sebrings from a 1.8 16v C look good on a Golf IMO, although the BBS wheels from a standard G60 C are even better (though a pig to keep clean). Other options might be ATS Cups if they do them in 15" dia.
I'd avoid cheap new wheels personally, and spend at least £200 on a set of Toyos.

Cheers,
Tom
those wheels with toyo proxes tr-1's are about 580. ive not heard bad things about the lenso's altho (as with everything) i will do my fair amount of research to check i'm not buying something that will fall appart or something else.

Thom

HereBeMonsters

14,180 posts

184 months

Sunday 1st March 2009
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Utterly Clueless said:
HereBeMonsters said:
Surely you can just get the lowering effect by filling the boot full of ICE with your 15% discount, paint your current wheels with rattle cans (shake well first) and then do a few burnouts to make your current tyres into semi-slicks?
Please, dont insult me. Maybe the people you choose to be around do this, thats fine with me, i dont judge people by their friend or what they do. I wont bite and have a go back as everyone is entitled to their opinions, some are stupider than others but thats life (OK maybe i'll have a nibble, but not a full bite)
I'm getting the impression that you haven't really got what I'm trying to say...

Basically, don't piss cash on a sedate looking burgundy 5 door Golf. It's not a bad car (I would have loved something as reliable and cheap to own when I was your age), but it's never going to be a sports car. I think the main problem is the colour, it's just too "family".

This works in your favour however, as by keeping it standard (but clean, in GWO and serviced regularly) it becomes attractive to a very wide audience of small families looking for perhaps a second car.

I went through the very same thing with 2 miserable years owning a burgundy Primera. I had all sorts of grand plans for it, but in the end I managed to talk myself out of it, and eventually sold it for a tidy sum, buying myself a much newer little car to replace it with.

Of course all of this is up to you, but if you have to get different wheels, have you looked at second hand options? They're usually an absolute bargain, even compared with the Halfords cheapies, and you might even get some decent tyres on them.

polosaremint

200 posts

190 months

Sunday 1st March 2009
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ZeeTacoe said:
Utterly Clueless said:
Also another justification for new wheels is at 15" i can get some decent tires, and have more choice than i do at 14". which is good, given that at 0.9leptons round the evo triangle the car hopped about like a fking kangaroo on 'e' as the tires gripped lost grip and regained grip numerous times during the corners. some decent tires and stiffer/lower suspension and i think it'd handle a fair amount better than it does now.
Do you really think stiffer and lower suspension will help a 1.6 litre shopping trolley handle better? quote]





yes 100%, i know from experience

Edited by polosaremint on Sunday 1st March 22:45

Poverty

208 posts

189 months

Sunday 1st March 2009
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stop sponging off your parents and get a better job lol.

Utterly Clueless

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1,981 posts

195 months

Sunday 1st March 2009
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Poverty said:
stop sponging off your parents and get a better job lol.
please tell me that was tongue in cheek, given your alias.

Thom

polosaremint

200 posts

190 months

Sunday 1st March 2009
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basically mate , just stop listening to all these wkers spouting bks, and looking down on you because you own a lowly £1200 golf and get the wheels with some decent rubber, drop it get it looking sweet and handling nicely and just start enjoying your car.

thats what ive done with my 1.6 polo (plus a few other things) and feel like ive got a whole new car!

-Lummox-

1,304 posts

215 months

Sunday 1st March 2009
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HereBeMonsters said:
Utterly Clueless said:
HereBeMonsters said:
Surely you can just get the lowering effect by filling the boot full of ICE with your 15% discount, paint your current wheels with rattle cans (shake well first) and then do a few burnouts to make your current tyres into semi-slicks?
Please, dont insult me. Maybe the people you choose to be around do this, thats fine with me, i dont judge people by their friend or what they do. I wont bite and have a go back as everyone is entitled to their opinions, some are stupider than others but thats life (OK maybe i'll have a nibble, but not a full bite)
I'm getting the impression that you haven't really got what I'm trying to say...

Basically, don't piss cash on a sedate looking burgundy 5 door Golf. It's not a bad car (I would have loved something as reliable and cheap to own when I was your age), but it's never going to be a sports car. I think the main problem is the colour, it's just too "family".

This works in your favour however, as by keeping it standard (but clean, in GWO and serviced regularly) it becomes attractive to a very wide audience of small families looking for perhaps a second car.

I went through the very same thing with 2 miserable years owning a burgundy Primera. I had all sorts of grand plans for it, but in the end I managed to talk myself out of it, and eventually sold it for a tidy sum, buying myself a much newer little car to replace it with.

Of course all of this is up to you, but if you have to get different wheels, have you looked at second hand options? They're usually an absolute bargain, even compared with the Halfords cheapies, and you might even get some decent tyres on them.
+1

Some cars are perfectly fine at doing what they are intended for, but the minute you start to modify them, they don't look right.

If you're talking about wheels, tyres and suspension, plus fitting (and removal when it comes to selling it), for your Golf, then you're probably looking at a grand at least, maybe £1500 or more. That money could be put aside for buying the MR2 that you actually want in a year or two, once you can afford the insurance without being abused by the brokers.

p.s. as for the legal ownership comment, registered keeper does not equal legal owner, regardless of what's on the DVLA database.

Utterly Clueless

Original Poster:

1,981 posts

195 months

Sunday 1st March 2009
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Polosaremint, allow me to give some advise. Being a relative newbie to the forum you need to realise that some of these guys are fairly up to par with the motoring knowledge, some on here dont know how to react when someone wants to modify a car and go down the instantly labelling as a barry boy route, where as others have been there and know from experience that it can be a mistake. You just need to remeber to take what some people say with a pinch (or in some cases a bucket) of salt, pretty much like im doing here.

anyways, the wheel's are a definite as i really like them and think they will suit the car well. the suspension is on the cards i'll see how i feel about it when i have the funds. Hell, if it turns out to be a good investment i may drop the corrado VR engine in it and keep the car.

who knows. End of the day the cars not going to look stupid with lots of stick on tat, its just 2 modifications to give the car better look and feel (IMO).

Thom

Marf

22,907 posts

243 months

Sunday 1st March 2009
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Ditch the Golf and get that MR2 you've been hankering after. You're 19 ffs, do the whole impractical 2 seater thing if you want!

Utterly Clueless

Original Poster:

1,981 posts

195 months

Monday 2nd March 2009
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Marf said:
Ditch the Golf and get that MR2 you've been hankering after. You're 19 ffs, do the whole impractical 2 seater thing if you want!
i would, but where do i live when my dad kicks the st out of me?

Kitchski

6,516 posts

233 months

Monday 2nd March 2009
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I'd ask whether you're over 18 or not.

If not, create and tell them you want an MR2.

If you're over, tell them to STFU and go buy an MR2. They need to cut the cord some time, and a mid-engined Jap machine is the most effective way to perform this task.

Dick_Phallus

1,155 posts

186 months

Monday 2nd March 2009
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Utterly Clueless said:
Marf said:
Ditch the Golf and get that MR2 you've been hankering after. You're 19 ffs, do the whole impractical 2 seater thing if you want!
i would, but where do i live when my dad kicks the st out of me?
In your MR2?

pits

6,429 posts

192 months

Monday 2nd March 2009
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Utterly Clueless said:
because 'we paid a lot of money for the car' and 'its worth more than 1100 so you losing out on money'

when the reality is we were raped when we bought the car, and its actually worth less than 1100, but obviously having 'lived longer' they are 'more experience in life'

oh and the fact the cars in dads name :S
Raped, fking hell and the rest, no offence they honestly paid that much for that golf, my mate picked one of them up with like 30k miles on the clock one owner FSH with tax and mot for £600, honestly why would they pay that much for that car, hell tell them I got a mk1 GTi they can have needs some work but theres for 2k laugh

Swap it for the MR2, 5 door mk3 golfs arent ever going to be cool lol