RE: Clio Renaultsport 200 (Cup Chassis)
Discussion
Don't post on here much but you can certainly see the Japanese car owners upholding their stereotype even in a thread about a new French car.
If you're in the market for a New, small, cheap hot-hatch you should definately consider an old, impractical sports coupe from Japan which has no warranty or modern equipment levels.
Spot-on!
If you're in the market for a New, small, cheap hot-hatch you should definately consider an old, impractical sports coupe from Japan which has no warranty or modern equipment levels.
Spot-on!
Look, we get it.
You're overjoyed with your ITR. It's fine.
But Tom/Dick/Harry might be more interested to read a discussion more closely related to the topic in hand. ie the Clio 200.
I'd personally never liked them since I saw the garish-green promo car, but after seeing one at the French Car Show earlier this year even that colour has grown on me!
Excellent little cars but I certainly can't afford one at 20 years old!
You're overjoyed with your ITR. It's fine.
But Tom/Dick/Harry might be more interested to read a discussion more closely related to the topic in hand. ie the Clio 200.
I'd personally never liked them since I saw the garish-green promo car, but after seeing one at the French Car Show earlier this year even that colour has grown on me!
Excellent little cars but I certainly can't afford one at 20 years old!
That and there is an unwritten rule that you really shouldn't compare used cars to new ones.
If I wanted a new car (for instance a Clio 200!
) I wouldn't buy a 10yr old Integra Type-R.
I mean for say £16k with the decent seats etc. you could buy a DB7. I mean it's an Aston Martin!!
It'd brak down, fall apart and catch fire all the time, but still!!!
If I wanted a new car (for instance a Clio 200!
) I wouldn't buy a 10yr old Integra Type-R.I mean for say £16k with the decent seats etc. you could buy a DB7. I mean it's an Aston Martin!!
It'd brak down, fall apart and catch fire all the time, but still!!!
Caveat: I am assuming that a £16k is going to be an unloved heap!!
walton1231 said:
dont need a warranty, boot is huge, and what more do you want from a hot hatch that the dc2 hasnt got. Maybe bluetooth or maybe even a hairdryer. you say its cheap but they are notoriously unreliable which is going to cost you in the end.
So speaks a 'man' who clearly has not driven a modern hot hatch - whether it be a Clio RS 200, Megane R26.R or similar !
walton1231 said:
the r26r only deserves one r if that. the clios a girls car and to top it all off there French and unreliable.
Oh dear, are you a walking bag of cliches?Seriously though, were you that DC2 owner that wrote into Evo magazine complaining about the R26.R after it appeared in eCOTY, and raving on about how the DC2 is better in every way (kinda like you're doing now in relation to the Clio)? If so, you really made me laugh when I was reading it on the bog.
- goes off to check if my Megane's doors have fallen off....
Edited by Arun_D on Friday 7th August 16:24
I can fully appreciate that the ITR is a very capable road/track car, and i have driven a few, but to say that it would "LEAVE" a 200 on a track. is clearly delusional! Don't even get me started on the R26R.
There are so many people that comment on a subject that they clearly don't know a lot about, and more often than not have also never driven, and it's laughable.
The common theme lately is FWD = s
t, French = unreliable.
There are so many people that comment on a subject that they clearly don't know a lot about, and more often than not have also never driven, and it's laughable.
The common theme lately is FWD = s
t, French = unreliable. Fair enough take 'leave' with a pinch of salt. I just cant help think performance and technology dont seem to be progressing to well. I know 1.6na b series honda civics that can get close to those figures and wouldnt be getting LEFT of the clio, and these are 15 year old designs. A lot of answers today seem to be either a turbo or a bigger engine, and more weight
walton1231 said:
Fair enough take 'leave' with a pinch of salt. I just cant help think performance and technology dont seem to be progressing to well. I know 1.6na b series honda civics that can get close to those figures and wouldnt be getting LEFT of the clio, and these are 15 year old designs. A lot of answers today seem to be either a turbo or a bigger engine, and more weight
Surely those Civics you speak of are modified though?The EK9 CTR would certainly have similar performance figures to the Clio though. However, I'd probably argue that, if the same car was produced today with its high spec, that it would be considerably more expensive than the Clio... indeed, the modern equivalent would be the FD2 CTR which is £20K.
For what it is, the Clio is a good car. They can be bought for significantly less than retail price. When i got my 182 it was virtually brand new and I got it for £10.5K.
The ITR that replaced it was a better car, although probably not much quicker, but that was a £20k car in its time.
Friend of mine is getting a Clio 200 (non-cup) on Sept 1st. He's a Renault stalwart having had a 182 and now has a 197. Looking forward to looking round the car and seeing what it's like on the road.
As for the other argument raging in this thread, personally I think my Caterham is better than any of the cars discussed
As for the other argument raging in this thread, personally I think my Caterham is better than any of the cars discussed
pbirkett said:
walton1231 said:
Fair enough take 'leave' with a pinch of salt. I just cant help think performance and technology dont seem to be progressing to well. I know 1.6na b series honda civics that can get close to those figures and wouldnt be getting LEFT of the clio, and these are 15 year old designs. A lot of answers today seem to be either a turbo or a bigger engine, and more weight
Surely those Civics you speak of are modified though?The EK9 CTR would certainly have similar performance figures to the Clio though. However, I'd probably argue that, if the same car was produced today with its high spec, that it would be considerably more expensive than the Clio... indeed, the modern equivalent would be the FD2 CTR which is £20K.
For what it is, the Clio is a good car. They can be bought for significantly less than retail price. When i got my 182 it was virtually brand new and I got it for £10.5K.
The ITR that replaced it was a better car, although probably not much quicker, but that was a £20k car in its time.
walton1231 said:
pbirkett said:
walton1231 said:
Fair enough take 'leave' with a pinch of salt. I just cant help think performance and technology dont seem to be progressing to well. I know 1.6na b series honda civics that can get close to those figures and wouldnt be getting LEFT of the clio, and these are 15 year old designs. A lot of answers today seem to be either a turbo or a bigger engine, and more weight
Surely those Civics you speak of are modified though?The EK9 CTR would certainly have similar performance figures to the Clio though. However, I'd probably argue that, if the same car was produced today with its high spec, that it would be considerably more expensive than the Clio... indeed, the modern equivalent would be the FD2 CTR which is £20K.
For what it is, the Clio is a good car. They can be bought for significantly less than retail price. When i got my 182 it was virtually brand new and I got it for £10.5K.
The ITR that replaced it was a better car, although probably not much quicker, but that was a £20k car in its time.
I have a 197 and i must say that after 2,5 years i still have a big smile in my Face when i push him a little bit harder in the corners of a bumby B Road here in Germany.
I´m not so familier with the new face of the 200, i think the old one looks better.
I hope the boys at Renault Sport had made the new Megane RS even better
I´m not so familier with the new face of the 200, i think the old one looks better.
I hope the boys at Renault Sport had made the new Megane RS even better
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