RE: Driven: Range Rover Sport Supercharged
Discussion
Richiefly said:
Can't stand these things either - dubious pimp/drug dealer image too I think, people are getting wiser to those storming around in pointless gas guzzlers like this (I'm not a greeny btw).
So sick of seeing mummy dropping off their single child outside the school near here as I walk past every morning in her stupid great RR Sport. Pointless in every way other than status symbol of 'I'm a tosser and don't care about anyone else'
Ahhh.....that's better.
Thing is, as I said before, I do actually like these. No idea why, they are just big and have a big engine and they pSo sick of seeing mummy dropping off their single child outside the school near here as I walk past every morning in her stupid great RR Sport. Pointless in every way other than status symbol of 'I'm a tosser and don't care about anyone else'
Ahhh.....that's better.
s off the lentilists.And yes, f
k everybody elses opinions!
Though if I did happen to have 70 grand to spunk on a motor, I'd probably buy a second hand Aston Martin of somesort. Or a second hand Ferrari. Or a Jag XFR. Or... ahh well, you get the point. I still like it though.
edinph said:
Remagel2507 said:
The big question is though is the new Sport as good as the Porsche Cayenne Turbo and the Merc ML63 AMG ?
I heard that the new Sports mode on the suspension was honed aroung the Nurburgring
But would anyone considering a Rangie even think about the uglies? Cayenne and ML63 are hidious!I heard that the new Sports mode on the suspension was honed aroung the Nurburgring
CMB123 said:
I do not see the point in this vehicle at all....am I missing something?
Also encouraging the consumers of these type of vehicles to launch 2.5 tonnes of chelsea tractor away from lights is also beyond me. When selecting a car what criteria do people generally use as I cannot see that this satisfys any of them (handling, braking, economy, vehicle tax, insurance, environment...).
Ah at last someone mentions the brakes.. it is all very well congratulating RR on the ability to launch two and half metric tonnes of plushness into the distance, but not a mention of how quickly the anvil can stop. Also encouraging the consumers of these type of vehicles to launch 2.5 tonnes of chelsea tractor away from lights is also beyond me. When selecting a car what criteria do people generally use as I cannot see that this satisfys any of them (handling, braking, economy, vehicle tax, insurance, environment...).
Maybe, a little research on the stoppers with some facts and figures would slow down the ammunition supply to Brakes aresenal.. and I'm not now referring to the stoppers
P38 RR owner with standard engine and stoppers, still finding the brakes to be borderline with normal day to day driving
A totally pointless vehicle.
Nobody cares you have 5 litres under the bonnet - only you.
You'll do 14.4mpg - ha ha more like 10 in the real world.
It'll depreciate like its on fire.
Breakdown.
And finally you'll think why on earth did I bother with that??
If you want to go fast and carry lots of stuff (which this car can't) buy a fast estate from the Germans or Swedes.
You certainly don't need 5 litres to go off roading.
Nobody cares you have 5 litres under the bonnet - only you.
You'll do 14.4mpg - ha ha more like 10 in the real world.
It'll depreciate like its on fire.
Breakdown.
And finally you'll think why on earth did I bother with that??
If you want to go fast and carry lots of stuff (which this car can't) buy a fast estate from the Germans or Swedes.
You certainly don't need 5 litres to go off roading.
Edited by angus54 on Monday 19th October 14:21
I've owned a standard RR TDV8 for the last year and really like it. I bought it rather than the previous V8 petrol because it didn't feel that much different in real world driving and delivers towards 24mpg mixed driving. Why did I not buy a fast estate? Come on! There is something about a RR (though not the Sport!) that makes them such fantastic machines, and I love driving it. Would I consider the new V8 in a standard RR? Absolutely.
Garlick said:
XFR beating a superbike? Methinks not....unless the rider is just having a gentle ride around and riding normally.
If he is trying for a fast getaway (as described in the RRS) the bike would be off like a shot, if they were both to leave the lights normally the bike would still win IMO.
Not with 3 passengers though If he is trying for a fast getaway (as described in the RRS) the bike would be off like a shot, if they were both to leave the lights normally the bike would still win IMO.
mybrainhurts said:
Seight_Returns said:
Does the new RR Sport still come equiped with lots of Argos gold jewellery, a Pitbull and a council estate bred 50 year old botoxed and bleached blonde in the passenger seat ?
You have to pay extra for that.They come with a Stephen Ireland as standard...
There is one 5 doors up from me that the "Lady" drives (in black) and paid for it out of her Trust Fund.
angus54 said:
A totally pointless vehicle.
Nobody cares you have 5 litres under the bonnet - only you.
You'll do 14.4mpg - ha ha more like 10 in the real world.
It'll depreciate like its on fire.
Breakdown.
And finally you'll think why on earth did I bother with that??
If you want to go fast and carry lots of stuff (which this car can't) buy a fast estate from the Germans or Swedes.
You certainly don't need 5 litres to go off roading.
I'm not a big fan of the Range Rover Sport - I have the proper one, which in my opinion is a more complete vehicle.Nobody cares you have 5 litres under the bonnet - only you.
You'll do 14.4mpg - ha ha more like 10 in the real world.
It'll depreciate like its on fire.
Breakdown.
And finally you'll think why on earth did I bother with that??
If you want to go fast and carry lots of stuff (which this car can't) buy a fast estate from the Germans or Swedes.
You certainly don't need 5 litres to go off roading.
Edited by angus54 on Monday 19th October 14:21
However, you make a couple of daft points:
You point out that only the driver cares about the engine being 5 litres. Why does this matter? When I choose a car, I'm the only person that matters.
Ten mpg in the real world - again, why does this matter? If you want economy buy a smaller diesel vehicle.
Depreciation, again, who cares. The majority of large luxury vehicles tend to depreciate a lot. I know guy with a Mercedes who has lost 65k on it in 14 months.
Whilst I appreciate the niceties of a fast estate, it's nice to have the lofty driving position of a 4x4. Combine this with the over taking grunt of a "sports" (I use the term loosely) and the occasional added benefits of four wheel drive, and it makes a great every day car.
For me the RR offers a great all round package, and is a pleasant car to live with day to day.
In addition to that, does a car have to have a point?
Im a biker so i have to comment on this one.. i have just 'down sized' from a yamaha R1, with a few extras (wont bore you car drivers) but 0 - 60 in 2.8.. my new bike is an sv650s and will do 0 - 60 in 4ish seconds.. the only bikes that you will show up in a race would be a 125.. and i would still put my money on the bike. lol
Oh, great... I drive a RR Sport as daily car, so that means I have "no taste", or "don't know how to drive a car", according to some comments on here. Good to know
For me, thé main criteria why I bought the RR Sport is that I wanted a car that can take me from a to b (with b being up to 700 miles away) in one day, without getting there with a broken back, like in the (yes, you can flame me later on, I already gave away I have no taste saying I own a RRS :-p ) BMWs I used to own before. The fact that as a "Chelsea tractor" it is pretty capable of having a bit of fun, doing things like this:
just makes it all the more nicer for me to have that car.
The funny thing is, that I can't see anyone slating of the abominations of a ML63 AMG and BMW X5M with their V8/V10s as a "pointless vehicle"...
If I would only be able to afford one car that has to do it "all", I'd have the SC RRS in the blink of an eye. Then again, as it is, I have a diesel powered RRS, to tow around that other totally tasteless, pointless, 4 liter supercharged vehicle I own, that I absolutely don't know how to drive, based on the fact that I own a Sport
Then again, each to their own I guess...
For me, thé main criteria why I bought the RR Sport is that I wanted a car that can take me from a to b (with b being up to 700 miles away) in one day, without getting there with a broken back, like in the (yes, you can flame me later on, I already gave away I have no taste saying I own a RRS :-p ) BMWs I used to own before. The fact that as a "Chelsea tractor" it is pretty capable of having a bit of fun, doing things like this:
just makes it all the more nicer for me to have that car.
The funny thing is, that I can't see anyone slating of the abominations of a ML63 AMG and BMW X5M with their V8/V10s as a "pointless vehicle"...
If I would only be able to afford one car that has to do it "all", I'd have the SC RRS in the blink of an eye. Then again, as it is, I have a diesel powered RRS, to tow around that other totally tasteless, pointless, 4 liter supercharged vehicle I own, that I absolutely don't know how to drive, based on the fact that I own a Sport
Then again, each to their own I guess...
I think a Sport is actually about the best objective compromise for what I'd use a single car for, assuming it didn't have stupid tyres. Although I much prefer the real Range Rover, you do tire of the body roll quickly.
What is disappointing is how Land Rover have made them all look more unattractive and vulgar (Discovery, Sport and proper Range Rover all look worse after the facelift).
Perhaps the target market is footballers, Asian bad-boys and lottery winners, but a non-bling supercharged Sport, without the tawdry jewellery and some sensible wheels, would be very desirable.
What is disappointing is how Land Rover have made them all look more unattractive and vulgar (Discovery, Sport and proper Range Rover all look worse after the facelift).
Perhaps the target market is footballers, Asian bad-boys and lottery winners, but a non-bling supercharged Sport, without the tawdry jewellery and some sensible wheels, would be very desirable.
Trommel said:
I think a Sport is actually about the best objective compromise for what I'd use a single car for, assuming it didn't have stupid tyres. Although I much prefer the real Range Rover, you do tire of the body roll quickly.
If I didn't have occasions where I had to loug so much stuff about that I need a 'van', the Sport is it. The 'proper' Range Rover rolls too much and the Disco's a bit longer and heavier, so it could never handle like the RR Sport. I've said it here before though; the RR Sport should never have been a 'Range Rover'. Now they're all Ranger Rovers - it's what most people seem to refer to my Disco 3 as.Trommel said:
What is disappointing is how Land Rover have made them all look more unattractive and vulgar (Discovery, Sport and proper Range Rover all look worse after the facelift).
+1 I'm really not a fan of where they're going. The Disco3 especially, wthe orignal design for which still looked reasonalby fresh and well defined is now pretty crap. Towards the end of the '3' it lost the very practical and striking balck plastcis arch brows and now the grill's gone all bling too. 
Clivey said:
On a different note: Performance SUVs / 4x4s / whatever this weeks' name for them is - I have to admit: I do understand why some people would want one. Many of our roads are now in such a state that you've no hope of decent ride quality in your S-Line Audi / M-Sport BMW etc. - especially when councils insist on building speed mountains everywhere. I mean: I drive a Citroen and If I'm complaining...
This is a totally valid and oft overlooked point. I had an A6 3.0tdi S Line and the road noise was far higher than that of any Disco or Range Rover and, as you say, the potholes and speed mountains made life difficult.Richiefly said:
Can't stand these things either - dubious pimp/drug dealer image too I think, people are getting wiser to those storming around in pointless gas guzzlers like this (I'm not a greeny btw).
So sick of seeing mummy dropping off their single child outside the school near here as I walk past every morning in her stupid great RR Sport. Pointless in every way other than status symbol of 'I'm a tosser and don't care about anyone else'
Ahhh.....that's better.
Says the man with a faux 4x4...So sick of seeing mummy dropping off their single child outside the school near here as I walk past every morning in her stupid great RR Sport. Pointless in every way other than status symbol of 'I'm a tosser and don't care about anyone else'
Ahhh.....that's better.
Sorry, but this type of comment really boils my piss...why do you feel you need to judge or comment on how someone else choses to use their car? Inappropriate or not, it is still their choice.
At least a Rangie has performance, awesome off road capability, engineering integrity, British brand, decent styling, superb longevity for dust to dust carbon footprint...oh and now 30+mpg from the diesel version (lower fuel consuption than your beloved Scooby I think you'll find).
Lord Flathead said:
CMB123 said:
I do not see the point in this vehicle at all....am I missing something?
Also encouraging the consumers of these type of vehicles to launch 2.5 tonnes of chelsea tractor away from lights is also beyond me. When selecting a car what criteria do people generally use as I cannot see that this satisfys any of them (handling, braking, economy, vehicle tax, insurance, environment...).
Ah at last someone mentions the brakes.. it is all very well congratulating RR on the ability to launch two and half metric tonnes of plushness into the distance, but not a mention of how quickly the anvil can stop. Also encouraging the consumers of these type of vehicles to launch 2.5 tonnes of chelsea tractor away from lights is also beyond me. When selecting a car what criteria do people generally use as I cannot see that this satisfys any of them (handling, braking, economy, vehicle tax, insurance, environment...).
Maybe, a little research on the stoppers with some facts and figures would slow down the ammunition supply to Brakes aresenal.. and I'm not now referring to the stoppers
P38 RR owner with standard engine and stoppers, still finding the brakes to be borderline with normal day to day driving
6pot Brembo stoppers on monsterously huge disks...they can virtually stand the car on its nose and haul up on full bore braking with complete composure and stability.
CMB123 said:
I do not see the point in this vehicle at all....am I missing something?
Also encouraging the consumers of these type of vehicles to launch 2.5 tonnes of chelsea tractor away from lights is also beyond me. When selecting a car what criteria do people generally use as I cannot see that this satisfys any of them (handling, braking, economy, vehicle tax, insurance, environment...).
I have to say that I went along with your POV for a very long time until I recently blagged an new Discovery HSE as a hire car for work. Ok, it's no RRS in performance terms but just about everything else is more or less the same. After having driven one for a month I can say that I do get them now, it's hard to explain why but there is something very satisfying about driving around in a large SUV like this. That said I still think you'd have to barmy/a little bit wonko to buy one if you lived in a city. Even with a light foot I struggled to get more than 15mpg around town and that was a diesel! Heaven knows what the RRS would be like!Also encouraging the consumers of these type of vehicles to launch 2.5 tonnes of chelsea tractor away from lights is also beyond me. When selecting a car what criteria do people generally use as I cannot see that this satisfys any of them (handling, braking, economy, vehicle tax, insurance, environment...).
I think with cars like this you accept them for what they are, big, comfy, long distance cruisers that you can just chuck stuff in and go. If you're buying one and expect to keep up with a performance car you're going to be disappointed.
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