RE: New Lancia Stratos Spied In Italy

RE: New Lancia Stratos Spied In Italy

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Agoogy

7,274 posts

249 months

Wednesday 4th August 2010
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How many negatives can you fit into one sentence there?

"An F430 basis seems most sensible, but even though the use of the Balocco facility means the project has Fiat Auto's implicit approval, it's unlikely that neither Fiat, Ferrari nor Lancia will have anything more than a tangential involvement with the project"

dear oh dear..... you're lucky its only me who picked this up...some here would be having kittens....

lonefurrow

161 posts

253 months

Wednesday 4th August 2010
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You just beat me too it. With this being a supposedly professional website, can we please have a grovelling apology from the editor?

Alfanatic

9,339 posts

220 months

Wednesday 4th August 2010
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I love that, perhaps the only modernisation of a classic I've seen yet that I like. Looks incredible.

I'm not sure about using an Alfa V6 though, that's an Opel or GM V6 now isn't it? The decent Arese V6 is out of production.

Furyblade_Lee

4,108 posts

225 months

Wednesday 4th August 2010
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Filth. Filth. Filth. I want.

ptopman

161 posts

211 months

Wednesday 4th August 2010
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Paul 8v said:
I'd love to see them put it into production, alfa V6 would be a good bet and keep the costs down when compared to a Ferarri engine. Wonder if they'd sell it over here....
I don't expect the costs to be much different, but certainly a Ferrari engine in a much cheaper car that still drives great would not fly with management. So whether costs would actually be high or not, a good Stratos reissue with a Ferrari engine could never sell for less than a Ferrari or perhaps a Maserati.

HFEVO2

72 posts

208 months

Wednesday 4th August 2010
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Fiat can't hope to price a Lancia in Ferrari territory - it needs to be no more expensive than an Audi A5 and that's pushing it because it won't be as well built.

For that reason using Ferrari bits would be a mistake. Far better to use Alfa power.

Mr Darcy

1,006 posts

173 months

Wednesday 4th August 2010
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For some reason the Startos reminds of a S2 Elise. Must be the back end or maybe I am just a little bit blind these days.

Would be great if it does make it into production but I would still prefer the original one.


Snoggledog

7,245 posts

218 months

Wednesday 4th August 2010
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HFEVO2 said:
Fiat can't hope to price a Lancia in Ferrari territory - it needs to be no more expensive than an Audi A5 and that's pushing it because it won't be as well built.

For that reason using Ferrari bits would be a mistake. Far better to use Alfa power.
TBH, they've got to do something with the brand. The last I heard sales had dropped record levels in Italy! If the Italians aren't buying Lancia who else will? Something like this or the Fulvia concept penned a couple of years ago might, just might, revive the brand.

tim-b

1,279 posts

211 months

Wednesday 4th August 2010
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DavidCane said:
Something about those 'spy' shots looks fishy. They look more like screenshots from a PS3 game than actual photos, almost like a photo of a tv screen with the game (GT5?) playing.
funwithrevs said:
The pictures of the silver car have been seen before, and seem to be a rendering rather than an actual car. The two views have a different amount of offset/dish on the rear coffin spoke wheels.
In my professional opinion,nerd those pics are genuine, albeit a static model rather than a running car;

- Notice the circular plate the car is sat on, and the uninspiring backdrop? that'll be a 'viewing garden' (i.e. an open space outside a design studio where the models can be viewed in natural light).

-The solid windows and suspect looking taillamps also give it away (which would be easy to photoshop in, but costly to show on a real model).

-The strange wheel offset is because the model only has two '3D' wheels (one front and one rear, to save money on prototyping!), on the other side of the car the wheels are just printed on board and stuck-on to give the impression of being there at first glance. The photographer should not have been taking pictures of that side!

So that tells me that someone is serious enough (at least) to spend a lot of money on this, as even a static model at 1:1 scale ain't cheap (think of a number with six 0's on the end)!

Edited by tim-b on Wednesday 4th August 15:00

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

199 months

Wednesday 4th August 2010
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Mr Darcy said:
For some reason the Startos reminds of a S2 Elise. Must be the back end or maybe I am just a little bit blind these days.

Would be great if it does make it into production but I would still prefer the original one.

Now there's an idea - Stratos re-body for the S1 elise chassis.

10k for a donor, 10k for a body, + labour 30k for a Stratos that handles.

Deluded

4,968 posts

192 months

Wednesday 4th August 2010
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I love it.

Could be a good bet to be a competitor to the new toyota that's on the cards at the moment.

Circa 170hp would be nice as a base with more powerful models too. Surely the current range of 1.4 turbos from the Abarth Punto/500 could be a nice starter engine. 180hp factory spec on the essesse models. could easily be upped to more and have a tasty v6 as a range topper?

Alfa numeric

3,028 posts

180 months

Wednesday 4th August 2010
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Could it just be something as simple as a rebodied 8C? Maybe they'er hoping to get the same halo effect that Alfa enjoyed. The only thing against this is that the 8C was front engined- would the Maserati V8 fit under that low bonnet?

Mazda Baiter

37,068 posts

189 months

Wednesday 4th August 2010
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Agoogy said:
How many negatives can you fit into one sentence there?

"An F430 basis seems most sensible, but even though the use of the Balocco facility means the project has Fiat Auto's implicit approval, it's unlikely that neither Fiat, Ferrari nor Lancia will have anything more than a tangential involvement with the project"

dear oh dear..... you're lucky its only me who picked this up...some here would be having kittens....
That and the fact that the title should have been "RE: New Lancia Strato's Spied In Italy"

It is Strato's, not Stratos.

I'll let Blib explain to you with photos from his w nk bank Strato's collection.


Oh and is it wrong to actually get slightly turned on by a car? You know, that "fizzy feeling" somewhere in my abdomen.

Justayellowbadge

37,057 posts

243 months

Wednesday 4th August 2010
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rhinochopig said:
Mr Darcy said:
For some reason the Startos reminds of a S2 Elise. Must be the back end or maybe I am just a little bit blind these days.

Would be great if it does make it into production but I would still prefer the original one.

Now there's an idea - Stratos re-body for the S1 elise chassis.

10k for a donor, 10k for a body, + labour 30k for a Stratos that handles.
S1 would be a great base for one of these:



That would be a fun car.

Mazda Baiter

37,068 posts

189 months

Wednesday 4th August 2010
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Alfa numeric said:
would the Maserati V8 fit under that low bonnet?
No.

Snoop Bagg

1,879 posts

195 months

Wednesday 4th August 2010
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A few more pic's!








soad

32,940 posts

177 months

Wednesday 4th August 2010
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Like it a lot - that is all.

sassthathoopie

872 posts

216 months

Wednesday 4th August 2010
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mmmmmmmmmm I have an idea.

How much to do a custom rebody of one of these


So it looks like this?



Dr S

4,999 posts

227 months

Wednesday 4th August 2010
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Stratos is an ultimate classic. A modern interpretation gets my thumbup

jamespink

1,218 posts

205 months

Wednesday 4th August 2010
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WOW! I don't know if it's just that the Stratos shape pleases me because of its rally past but the shots of the blue car on track and the static silver shots are soooo beautiful! Superb with a stif chasis and a screaming V6!!! Oh yes!