RE: Tech Details: New Morgan Threewheeler

[Flood]

How stable are/were they? Do they not just fall over?

[Bill]

kambites said:

True, 0-60 in 4.5 seconds sounds a bit optimistic for 200bhp/tonne.

Top speed of 115mph though so presumably the gearing's very short.

[MX7]

It looks ok, but who really wants a three wheeler? I guess this will cost in excess of £30k, which is more than a basic Morgan. How often do you see a Lomax or Grinnall, both of which can be obtained for far less.

Good luck Morgan. I think you'll need it.

[tonym911]

Morgan will easily sell every one they build, and then build a waiting list. This isn't a mass market product, it's a trinket that will appeal to lots of people on lots of levels. I'd have one in a flash if I had the money and somewhere to keep it. As for stability, no worries there. It's the ones with one wheel at the front you've got to worry about. Tested a TriKing about 30 years ago and it was a hoot. Friend has a scabby old 2CV-powered Lomax. That's a hoot. This Morgan beats all the rest on its construction materials. It's the sort of thing you would happily spend hours every weekend polishing and primping. Well, I would anyway.

[collateral]

The Campagna T-Rex is the craziest afaik. Very expensive though

[tonym911]

collateral said:

The Campagna T-Rex is the craziest afaik. Very expensive though

That is a beast right enough, I think it's about $50k in the States, again it's more your Grinnall type of thing, more about performance and 'differentness', the Morgan will be plenty quick enough and has that heritage thing going on as well. That puts it in a class of one in this specific market.

[annodomini2]

With a Harley lump I'm guessing it'll piss oil all over the floor just like the traditional classic British sports car as well!

[Jont999]

JohnGoodridge said:

Really love that. If only all auto-manufacturers approached the EU's eco demands with such flair, verve and understanding of their own history. Aston Martin, for God's sake, please take note.

I was going to say exactly the same thing. Well it probably would have been less eloquent and would have had more but hey!

[LuS1fer]

annodomini2 said:

With a Harley lump I'm guessing it'll piss oil all over the floor just like the traditional classic British sports car as well!

You're thinking of Triumphs and Nortons, surely?

[fuoriserie]

Mr Gear said:

mph said:

mrmaggit said:

Erm, sorry to tell you, chaps, but Grinnall have been making the Scorpion III since 1993, a modern take on the Morgan, and you can now get one with the 160bhp BMW engine in it.

Unless you have to have a three-wheeler with a Morgan badge on it, I'd have a look at one of them.

I have one, and I wouldn't sell it to buy a Morgan.

Conversely there are many who wouldn't consider a Grinnal but would buy a Morgan (me included) so everyone is happy

Also I think the Harley engine is a good choice, much more in keeping with the character of the old JAP engine than a modern Japanese unit would be.

I would have thought that a Moto Guzzi 1200 would be good. It's already orientated properly, and it blends a bit of modern tech with old-school character. Importantly, it also looks nice.

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I agree with you that a modern Moto Guzzi engine would make perfect sense...just check the very nice looking Triking

http://www.trikingsportscars.co.uk/

[LuS1fer]

I'd prefer a mid-mounted Gold Wing flat six.

[tonym911]

Modern H-D motors have no inherent problems that I'm aware of, and no shortage of character, but if I'd been Charles Morgan I might have looked at some of the Japanese big twins. I used to run a Yamaha XV1600, that was a superb engine. With an appropriate exhaust system you've got just as much character as the Harley and arguably more performance to boot. Alternatively an unbranded 'Harley clone' crate engine would have helped to create a more integrated 'this is a Morgan' feel. It just seems that with the H-D/Morgan mix there's a bit of a brand battle going on there. Small quibble really.

[tonym911]

fuoriserie said:

Mr Gear said:

mph said:

mrmaggit said:

Erm, sorry to tell you, chaps, but Grinnall have been making the Scorpion III since 1993, a modern take on the Morgan, and you can now get one with the 160bhp BMW engine in it.

Unless you have to have a three-wheeler with a Morgan badge on it, I'd have a look at one of them.

I have one, and I wouldn't sell it to buy a Morgan.

Conversely there are many who wouldn't consider a Grinnal but would buy a Morgan (me included) so everyone is happy

Also I think the Harley engine is a good choice, much more in keeping with the character of the old JAP engine than a modern Japanese unit would be.

I would have thought that a Moto Guzzi 1200 would be good. It's already orientated properly, and it blends a bit of modern tech with old-school character. Importantly, it also looks nice.

.

I agree with you that a modern Moto Guzzi engine would make perfect sense...just check the very nice looking Triking

http://www.trikingsportscars.co.uk/

As mentioned above, the Triking is a nice drive, but you'd always know it's made of GRP. The Morgan is metal.

[fuoriserie]

tonym911 said:

fuoriserie said:

Mr Gear said:

mph said:

mrmaggit said:

Erm, sorry to tell you, chaps, but Grinnall have been making the Scorpion III since 1993, a modern take on the Morgan, and you can now get one with the 160bhp BMW engine in it.

Unless you have to have a three-wheeler with a Morgan badge on it, I'd have a look at one of them.

I have one, and I wouldn't sell it to buy a Morgan.

Conversely there are many who wouldn't consider a Grinnal but would buy a Morgan (me included) so everyone is happy

Also I think the Harley engine is a good choice, much more in keeping with the character of the old JAP engine than a modern Japanese unit would be.

I would have thought that a Moto Guzzi 1200 would be good. It's already orientated properly, and it blends a bit of modern tech with old-school character. Importantly, it also looks nice.

.

I agree with you that a modern Moto Guzzi engine would make perfect sense...just check the very nice looking Triking

http://www.trikingsportscars.co.uk/

As mentioned above, the Triking is a nice drive, but you'd always know it's made of GRP. The Morgan is metal.

GRP is fine with me.....

[cybersimon]

Ideal for a grand day out, eh Grommit?

Or is more a case of. "chocks away chaps what-ho?"

[LuS1fer]

tonym911 said:

As mentioned above, the Triking is a nice drive, but you'd always know it's made of GRP. The Morgan is metal.

Stamp on a tin then a plastic container and think which would be better....

[Engineer1]

I'm guessing the Harley Davidson engine was a deliberate choice there seem to be 10's if not 100's of bike engine manufacturers in the States. Could it be that the Morgan is aiming to be a bit of a badboy vehicle?

[collateral]

tonym911 said:

Modern H-D motors have no inherent problems that I'm aware of, and no shortage of character, but if I'd been Charles Morgan I might have looked at some of the Japanese big twins. I used to run a Yamaha XV1600, that was a superb engine. With an appropriate exhaust system you've got just as much character as the Harley and arguably more performance to boot. Alternatively an unbranded 'Harley clone' crate engine would have helped to create a more integrated 'this is a Morgan' feel. It just seems that with the H-D/Morgan mix there's a bit of a brand battle going on there. Small quibble really.

Wonder if they asked Triumph?

[LuS1fer]

I may be wrong but isn't Triumph's staple the triple now?

[tonym911]

LuS1fer said:

tonym911 said:

As mentioned above, the Triking is a nice drive, but you'd always know it's made of GRP. The Morgan is metal.

Stamp on a tin then a plastic container and think which would be better....

Polish a piece of aluminium and then a plastic bottle and think which would be better.

Here's another couple o' pics: