Big Brother society...Incredible

[Kong]

chris333 said:

Kong said:

chris333 said:

ok so maybe I should have been clearer.

1. It was a pre-booked MOT
2. The letter was only warning sugggesting I need to get tax.

So for all you guys moaning that I got caught, its clear that I had no intention of breaking the law and did not break the law.

My point was the big brother society. Just remember all it takes for you to have a name similar to a terrorist suspect and you could find all these cameras beiing used to track you....

So what is your problem? You didnt break the law and you didnt get punished

Next time some tt without insurance crashes into your car you will be the first to compain theres not enough ANPR cameras out there catching them..

Have you read what I have written. Its nothing to do with uninsured drivers, getting caught or whatever. Its about the fact that we are all under surveillance wherever we go. dig out a copy of 1984 from your local library and have a read.

Isn't it the same cameras who catch the uninsured cars as the untaxed ones?

[Stuey145]

Kong said:

Isn't it the same cameras who catch the uninsured cars as the untaxed ones?

to be fair, you are 1/2 right.

DVLA cameras CONCENTRATE on the unlicensed vehicles but also share said info with the police, who, as we all know, use ANPR to cover all areas of 'vehicle and road crime'

However, the cameras, the 'hardware' are actually the same. The DVLA don't have that immediate access to PNC, Ins Databases etc etc that the Old Bill do.

So actually you're about 1/3 right.

[zollburgers]

chris333 said:

Its about the fact that we are all under surveillance wherever we go. dig out a copy of 1984 from your local library and have a read.

Surveillance is a very paranoid and innacurate way of describing CCTV cameras that appear in most towns. There will be hundreds of peole visible with most cameras at any one time, are they all being watched, or do they only start the surveillance once somebody does something that catches their attention?

Similarly, if you see a picture of the planet earth from space, it is not a surveillance picture of half the planet's population.

Just to put your mind at rest, there is no vault with CCTV tapes with your name on them and there is not a crack team with radios watching you walk down the street.

[Dixie68]

This is one of those threads isn't it? Starts out all reasonable & then suddenly takes a left turn into a "they're all out to get me" wibble-fest.

[Stuey145]

Dixie68 said:

This is one of those threads isn't it? Starts out all reasonable & then suddenly takes a left turn into a "they're all out to get me" wibble-fest.

Look out! They're behind you!

[ensignia]

Stuey145 said:

he deserved it. But that's a different matter entirely.

Unacceptable IMO.

[Stuey145]

ensignia said:

Unacceptable IMO.

You don't know the REAL situation. IMO.

[ensignia]

Stuey145 said:

You don't know the REAL situation. IMO.

Do elaborate then.

[Stuey145]

well how long have you spent on an armed unit in any one of this countries Police Forces?

Or do you just glean all your worldly information from our wonderful media?

[Man from UNCLE]

Stuey145 said:

well how long have you spent on an armed unit in any one of this countries Police Forces?

Or do you just glean all your worldly information from our wonderful media?

What's that got to do with anything? Why don't you do as he asks & elaborate why you think a scared innocent electrician deserved being shot seven times in the head.

[H_Kan]

Stuey145 said:

well how long have you spent on an armed unit in any one of this countries Police Forces?

Or do you just glean all your worldly information from our wonderful media?

The fact that he was not a terrorist and should really have been of no interest to the Police means that straight off the bat he did not deserve to be shot.

How he may or may not have reacted when chased is academic imo. Men with guns chasing doesn't really allow for him to think rationally therefore I would pretty much disregard anything he did from then on in terms of assessing blame.

You mention that you are ex-plod. Given the attitude displayed here, it is little wonder that there is an endemic lack of respect for the Police from the public.

[cahami]

So cameras are watching us you say?

[GlenMH]

zollburgers said:

Surveillance is a very paranoid and innacurate way of describing CCTV cameras that appear in most towns. There will be hundreds of peole visible with most cameras at any one time, are they all being watched, or do they only start the surveillance once somebody does something that catches their attention?

Similarly, if you see a picture of the planet earth from space, it is not a surveillance picture of half the planet's population.

Just to put your mind at rest, there is no vault with CCTV tapes with your name on them and there is not a crack team with radios watching you walk down the street.

They don't need them: when the CCTV system is able to put red rings around the faces of known and suspected offenders in real time, then the system can draw enough attention to you as it is.

Some people on this thread have no idea what modern technology is capable of.

[TimJMS]

All rather worrying IMO, and most definitely not English.

[Pints]

Dixie68 said:

This is one of those threads isn't it? Starts out all reasonable & then suddenly takes a left turn into a "they're all out to get me" wibble-fest.

Just because you're paranoid, it doesn't mean they're not out to get you.

[zollburgers]

GlenMH said:

zollburgers said:

or do they only start the surveillance once somebody does something that catches their attention?

They don't need them: when the CCTV system is able to put red rings around the faces of known and suspected offenders in real time, then the system can draw enough attention to you as it is.

Some people on this thread have no idea what modern technology is capable of.

You are talking about suspected offenders, not a typical person. I would have thought being a suspected offender would be enough to get their attention.

They can put red rings on your face blah blah blah but the police can also stake out your house if you are a suspected offender so why not panic about that too?

[mcford]

I drove a car on the road the other day, no tax, no MOT, not on the way to a pre booked MOT, no trade plates and not on the insurance data base, all quite legally.

I wonder what would have happened if I went past an ANPR camera?

[mxspyder]

mcford said:

I drove a car on the road the other day, no tax, no MOT, not on the way to a pre booked MOT, no trade plates and not on the insurance data base, all quite legally.

I wonder what would have happened if I went past an ANPR camera?

See post 1!

I Doesn't it have to be your "nearest" MOT Centre if the current MOT has expired?

[crmcatee]

mxspyder said:

Doesn't it have to be your "nearest" MOT Centre if the current MOT has expired?

A common misunderstanding. It can be booked in at the other end of the country - as long as you take a direct route and don't deviate you're complying with the law.