Because Estate Car
Discussion
TotalControl said:
Bringing this thread back from the dead, it’s made me realise there’s so many more cool estate cars to choose from.
Wondering what the best car would be for £1200 now...
Would probably get you a 156 with the correct engine in the nose. Probably with change. Wondering what the best car would be for £1200 now...
Likely to be a rot box that you’ll regret, but still...
Mr E said:
TotalControl said:
Bringing this thread back from the dead, it’s made me realise there’s so many more cool estate cars to choose from.
Wondering what the best car would be for £1200 now...
Would probably get you a 156 with the correct engine in the nose. Probably with change. Wondering what the best car would be for £1200 now...
Likely to be a rot box that you’ll regret, but still...
I learned to drive in a Mk 2 Escort estate and have had a soft sport for estates forever. Owned an RS2 in silver, a Legacy GTB in canary yellow and now am enjoying a C63 W204. Estates make such great cars, many are beautifully styled, the practicality and Q-Car appeal are just so enjoyable. Next on the list is an Alpina B5 Touring. And I don't even have a family!!
belleair302 said:
I learned to drive in a Mk 2 Escort estate and have had a soft sport for estates forever. Owned an RS2 in silver, a Legacy GTB in canary yellow and now am enjoying a C63 W204. Estates make such great cars, many are beautifully styled, the practicality and Q-Car appeal are just so enjoyable. Next on the list is an Alpina B5 Touring. And I don't even have a family!!
Pedantic mode on. Surely it’s the C63 S204 not the W204 W is the coupe
I do like an estate and a thread about them!
Over the last ~15 years we’ve had Honda Accord and Merc E class estates.
Honda’s :- Two MkVII Accord 2.2cdti. Pretty good cars but the diesels aren’t without the odd problem (manifolds, turbos, dmf). So we moved onto a 2.4 MKVIII in 2009. Not the most spacious estate but very reliable and still going very well.
Eclass. A S211 320cdi with Brabus tuning which was a good solid car. Then moved onto a s212 350cdi. Another very good car and reliable too. I didn’t want another diesel so we got the only petrol eclass available at the time with a towbar. E43. Lots of fun this one! Pretty quick, comfy when you want to munch the miles and reasonable fuel efficient.
Over the last ~15 years we’ve had Honda Accord and Merc E class estates.
Honda’s :- Two MkVII Accord 2.2cdti. Pretty good cars but the diesels aren’t without the odd problem (manifolds, turbos, dmf). So we moved onto a 2.4 MKVIII in 2009. Not the most spacious estate but very reliable and still going very well.
Eclass. A S211 320cdi with Brabus tuning which was a good solid car. Then moved onto a s212 350cdi. Another very good car and reliable too. I didn’t want another diesel so we got the only petrol eclass available at the time with a towbar. E43. Lots of fun this one! Pretty quick, comfy when you want to munch the miles and reasonable fuel efficient.
ChocolateFrog said:
Love estate cars.
Wish BMW made a E39 M5 Touring.
They did.Wish BMW made a E39 M5 Touring.
Just one.
They kept it in the their secret cellar and let some journalists take some photo's a few years ago.
Your options are;
1. Make your own - there are 4 people in the world who have, 3 lhd and 1 rhd.
2. Buy an Alpina B10 V8 or V8S Touring. There are 16 rhd and just short of three hundred lhd in the world.
Edited by McGee_22 on Monday 22 April 22:22
Strange timing as I bought my 1st Estate car last year, an 06 plate manual E91 BMW 325i.
I liked it, but found that to get some decent progress you really did need to head for the red-line.
But I don't really need an Estate, so last month I bought a 55 plate manual E90 330i with the seemingly rare split/fold rear seat option as well as power-fold mirrors, electric glass sunroof, Bi-Xenons and a DAB tuner. What a difference - it flies! No wonder 330is were nearly twice the price when I was looking, and still seem to be!
Anyway back to the timing - I sold the E91 last night!
I liked it, but found that to get some decent progress you really did need to head for the red-line.
But I don't really need an Estate, so last month I bought a 55 plate manual E90 330i with the seemingly rare split/fold rear seat option as well as power-fold mirrors, electric glass sunroof, Bi-Xenons and a DAB tuner. What a difference - it flies! No wonder 330is were nearly twice the price when I was looking, and still seem to be!
Anyway back to the timing - I sold the E91 last night!
A few drawbacks of estate cars
1. It takes much longer to earn the interior of the car up vs a saloon
2. Likewise on a baking hot day it takes longer to cook the car down.
3. Road noise is amplified - it helps having the luggage cover closed but still it’s louder than the saloon.
4. In an accident in a saloon luggage/stuff will stay in the boot, an estate if you don’t have the cover done and if you don’t have the patrician up has more chance of things moving about.
5. Some have air suspension on the rear which is great but it does break and costs a lot to fix.
6. Unless you have the sportier models or specified tinted glass from new if your carrying luggage over the boot cover by passers can have a good look in- not possible in the saloon.
1. It takes much longer to earn the interior of the car up vs a saloon
2. Likewise on a baking hot day it takes longer to cook the car down.
3. Road noise is amplified - it helps having the luggage cover closed but still it’s louder than the saloon.
4. In an accident in a saloon luggage/stuff will stay in the boot, an estate if you don’t have the cover done and if you don’t have the patrician up has more chance of things moving about.
5. Some have air suspension on the rear which is great but it does break and costs a lot to fix.
6. Unless you have the sportier models or specified tinted glass from new if your carrying luggage over the boot cover by passers can have a good look in- not possible in the saloon.
Welshbeef said:
A few drawbacks of estate cars
1. It takes much longer to earn the interior of the car up vs a saloon
2. Likewise on a baking hot day it takes longer to cook the car down.
3. Road noise is amplified - it helps having the luggage cover closed but still it’s louder than the saloon.
4. In an accident in a saloon luggage/stuff will stay in the boot, an estate if you don’t have the cover done and if you don’t have the patrician up has more chance of things moving about.
5. Some have air suspension on the rear which is great but it does break and costs a lot to fix.
6. Unless you have the sportier models or specified tinted glass from new if your carrying luggage over the boot cover by passers can have a good look in- not possible in the saloon.
Earn the interior. Cook the car down. Patrician up. 1. It takes much longer to earn the interior of the car up vs a saloon
2. Likewise on a baking hot day it takes longer to cook the car down.
3. Road noise is amplified - it helps having the luggage cover closed but still it’s louder than the saloon.
4. In an accident in a saloon luggage/stuff will stay in the boot, an estate if you don’t have the cover done and if you don’t have the patrician up has more chance of things moving about.
5. Some have air suspension on the rear which is great but it does break and costs a lot to fix.
6. Unless you have the sportier models or specified tinted glass from new if your carrying luggage over the boot cover by passers can have a good look in- not possible in the saloon.
For myself I am accustomed but for my friend I cannot speak.
Welshbeef said:
A few drawbacks advantages of estate cars
1. It takes much longer to earn the interior of the car up vs a saloon Earn??? How do you earn up an interior??
2. Likewise on a baking hot day it takes longer to cook the car down. Granted, but you can just open the tailgate and let a lot of the heat out!!
3. Road noise is amplified - it helps having the luggage cover closed but still it’s louder than the saloon. Never really noticed much difference to be honest.
4. In an accident in a saloon luggage/stuff will stay in the boot, an estate if you don’t have the cover done and if you don’t have the patrician up has more chance of things moving about. I'm guessing you meant partition, very few have them and unless you slam into something at speed things are unlikely to fly into the cabin.
5. Some have air suspension on the rear which is great but it does break and costs a lot to fix. True, but very few have it, and by and large the suspension is no different from it's sibling saloon/hatchback.
6. Unless you have the sportier models or specified tinted glass from new if your carrying luggage over the boot cover by passers can have a good look in- not possible in the saloon. Again true, however a simple blanket or throw would cover anything of importance, and as most estates now have toneau covers then it's a moot point, but I fear you've not understood the concept of the thread, it's for people who want an estate car!!!
1. It takes much longer to earn the interior of the car up vs a saloon Earn??? How do you earn up an interior??
2. Likewise on a baking hot day it takes longer to cook the car down. Granted, but you can just open the tailgate and let a lot of the heat out!!
3. Road noise is amplified - it helps having the luggage cover closed but still it’s louder than the saloon. Never really noticed much difference to be honest.
4. In an accident in a saloon luggage/stuff will stay in the boot, an estate if you don’t have the cover done and if you don’t have the patrician up has more chance of things moving about. I'm guessing you meant partition, very few have them and unless you slam into something at speed things are unlikely to fly into the cabin.
5. Some have air suspension on the rear which is great but it does break and costs a lot to fix. True, but very few have it, and by and large the suspension is no different from it's sibling saloon/hatchback.
6. Unless you have the sportier models or specified tinted glass from new if your carrying luggage over the boot cover by passers can have a good look in- not possible in the saloon. Again true, however a simple blanket or throw would cover anything of importance, and as most estates now have toneau covers then it's a moot point, but I fear you've not understood the concept of the thread, it's for people who want an estate car!!!
If there's one thing that really grinds my gears, it's estate car owning pedants who jump down the throat of poor innocent WB types because of a small typographical error or two.
They should be ashamed of themselves.
Personally, I wouldn't be seen dead in an estate....
Oh, hang on a minute....
They should be ashamed of themselves.
Personally, I wouldn't be seen dead in an estate....
Oh, hang on a minute....
Can confirm estate cars are indeed FTW - my old MG ZT-T has been my sidekick for the majority of the time I've had my MG Rover spares business.
Endlessly useful, and thanks to the oily bits being made somewhere other than Birmingham it's been quite reliable, too!
Incredibly useful when you get a call from a Lemforder agent clearing out their old stock of wishbones...
Performance was somewhat blunted.
Endlessly useful, and thanks to the oily bits being made somewhere other than Birmingham it's been quite reliable, too!
Incredibly useful when you get a call from a Lemforder agent clearing out their old stock of wishbones...
Performance was somewhat blunted.
As far as daily drivers go I'm now on my second estate car having had hatch backs for years
My first was an Audi A4 S-line, I loved that car but sadly so too did the car thieves, turned up as a write off
My second and current one is a Volvo V60, I'm very impressed with this car too, not as much as the Audi but it's still a nice place to be.
I definitely prefer the looks of estates over their saloon versions and the practicality for me having two young children and doing house renovations is a massive bonus.
My first was an Audi A4 S-line, I loved that car but sadly so too did the car thieves, turned up as a write off
My second and current one is a Volvo V60, I'm very impressed with this car too, not as much as the Audi but it's still a nice place to be.
I definitely prefer the looks of estates over their saloon versions and the practicality for me having two young children and doing house renovations is a massive bonus.
mattyprice4004 said:
Can confirm estate cars are indeed FTW - my old MG ZT-T has been my sidekick for the majority of the time I've had my MG Rover spares business.
Endlessly useful, and thanks to the oily bits being made somewhere other than Birmingham it's been quite reliable, too!
Incredibly useful when you get a call from a Lemforder agent clearing out their old stock of wishbones...
Performance was somewhat blunted.
Impresssive! Hope you didn't have to do an emergency brake Endlessly useful, and thanks to the oily bits being made somewhere other than Birmingham it's been quite reliable, too!
Incredibly useful when you get a call from a Lemforder agent clearing out their old stock of wishbones...
Performance was somewhat blunted.
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