Are these Vloggers just a scam? SOL or Shmee etc???????

Are these Vloggers just a scam? SOL or Shmee etc???????

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Quickmoose

4,538 posts

125 months

Monday 17th July 2017
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Streetrod said:
SJK said:
Going back a number of pages where people were questioning Mclaren's focus on YouTubers over say Top Gear.

One point that seems to been of missed is Mclaren will have their own Channel. When their videos are featured after the YT'ers video and people subsrcibe they then grow their own direct marketing channel. That doesnt happen on the telly box.
Wel it appears McLaren may have lost one of its youtube advocates in "Seen through glass"

Sam's McLaren 540c is now for sale with Gravelwood cars. I did see a video recently where he questioned the sense in keeping the car as it was not been driven. The fact that he had been given a Jag to play with for a decent periord and with other OEM sponcered events coming up he would not be driving it. Plus its costing him in finance payments for a car sitting in the garage so I suppose it makes sense
Sam's decision makes absolute sense.
Archie Hamilton though...blimey... what was that? a month or so? continually going WOW! ....clearly in love with it, detailing it, coloured details, suspension and little changes, hadn't really taken it anywhere, then ...oh.... it's sold.
I hope the offer he was made was substantially over and above market value.....

Beefmeister

16,482 posts

232 months

Monday 17th July 2017
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Maybe Archie over stretched himself financially and when a good offer came along he couldn't say no.

Truckosaurus

11,511 posts

286 months

Monday 17th July 2017
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Or maybe his family is in the business in selling high end sportscars and the car was 'sales stock' all along...

MrGCC

28 posts

83 months

Monday 17th July 2017
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Streetrod said:
SJK said:
Going back a number of pages where people were questioning Mclaren's focus on YouTubers over say Top Gear.

One point that seems to been of missed is Mclaren will have their own Channel. When their videos are featured after the YT'ers video and people subsrcibe they then grow their own direct marketing channel. That doesnt happen on the telly box.
Wel it appears McLaren may have lost one of its youtube advocates in "Seen through glass"

Sam's McLaren 540c is now for sale with Gravelwood cars. I did see a video recently where he questioned the sense in keeping the car as it was not been driven. The fact that he had been given a Jag to play with for a decent periord and with other OEM sponcered events coming up he would not be driving it. Plus its costing him in finance payments for a car sitting in the garage so I suppose it makes sense
Completely makes sense because after all he's is able to play around with so much why keep a car that costs so much parked up, hes not exactly poor but not made of money either so I assume that money saved can even go towards savings or another member of staff for the brand.

Beefmeister

16,482 posts

232 months

Monday 17th July 2017
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I wonder how much longer Paul will keep his Huracan. I saw in Archie's latest vid he mentions that he hadn't driven it for 45 days.

thewanted

47 posts

94 months

Monday 17th July 2017
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The word "EXPERIENCE" appears in 7 out of Seb Delanney's last 30 video titles. I assume this has something to do with YouTube's trending criteria/ranking or something :/

MrGCC

28 posts

83 months

Monday 17th July 2017
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thewanted said:
The word "EXPERIENCE" appears in 7 out of Seb Delanney's last 30 video titles. I assume this has something to do with YouTube's trending criteria/ranking or something :/
Its a tough one really, I am trying to keep my channel titles neutral and to the point but its harder to generate the views on it so I see why so many actually do follow the trends. I guess when you are a bigger channel you can slightly fight it but at the same time the risks of it not paying off can play a bigger effect too.

zeDuffMan

4,059 posts

153 months

Monday 17th July 2017
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0a said:
I wonder if the YouTube numbers are working for him now (I remember him getting a bit annoyed about the editing costs vs revenues).
He has Patreon set up and a couple of permanent sponsors so that probably helps.

He doesn't edit his own videos though so that'll be an expense most YTers don't have to worry about.

The rest of his work is quite low budget though. As far as I can tell he's only just got his own external microphones.

Chris x

272 posts

190 months

jon-

16,513 posts

218 months

Monday 17th July 2017
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Chris x said:
The internet seems to think so

Scuba_steve

574 posts

182 months

Monday 17th July 2017
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Chris x said:
Looks like it.

If you look at the Socialblade stats for all the guys, MrJWW, SOL, STG, Seb, AHR they all look to be losing views and subscriber growth is slowing down, even Shmee, although he's head and shoulders above the rest of them in subscribers. These guys all have separate income streams other than Youtube, however if these stats are representative could explain the moving and shaking with these guys and their cars. Is the bottom falling out of this 'bubble?' Or are they changing cars to get a boost to their audience figures?

Both STG and AHR have sold their flagship cars, SOL has not driven his Lamborghini for 45 days, these were all purchased within the last few months were they not?


jon-

16,513 posts

218 months

Monday 17th July 2017
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Scuba_steve said:
Chris x said:
Looks like it.

If you look at the Socialblade stats for all the guys, MrJWW, SOL, STG, Seb, AHR they all look to be losing views and subscriber growth is slowing down, even Shmee, although he's head and shoulders above the rest of them in subscribers. These guys all have separate income streams other than Youtube, however if these stats are representative could explain the moving and shaking with these guys and their cars. Is the bottom falling out of this 'bubble?' Or are they changing cars to get a boost to their audience figures?

Both STG and AHR have sold their flagship cars, SOL has not driven his Lamborghini for 45 days, these were all purchased within the last few months were they not?
Over what period? As a rule, the internet slows down a little over the summer in the UK, more people outside, less people online, so if you're looking at a short time frame it might have something to do with it.

AyBee

10,560 posts

204 months

Monday 17th July 2017
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Quickmoose said:
Sam's decision makes absolute sense.
Archie Hamilton though...blimey... what was that? a month or so? continually going WOW! ....clearly in love with it, detailing it, coloured details, suspension and little changes, hadn't really taken it anywhere, then ...oh.... it's sold.
I hope the offer he was made was substantially over and above market value.....
Agreed regarding STG.

The sooner Archie realises that it's not his car that isn't getting his Youtube channel views but his personality, the better for us all tongue out

ONtheROCS

770 posts

106 months

Monday 17th July 2017
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I wasn't aware of this Archie fella and haven't watched any of his videos. Out of curiosity why isn't he racing anymore?

Shmee

7,565 posts

215 months

Monday 17th July 2017
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I think everyone is doing it to give their channels a boost and experience has proven the easiest way to do that is by buying a new car. It dilutes the value each successive time but when your numbers are on the decline and it's your job then something has to change. In any case, I wouldn't always believe all the wording and reasons given, there could be any number of reasons behind the scenes.

Truckosaurus

11,511 posts

286 months

Monday 17th July 2017
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ONtheROCS said:
... Out of curiosity why isn't he racing anymore?
One assumes he can't find anyone to pay him to do so.

daydotz

1,743 posts

163 months

Monday 17th July 2017
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Irc STG takes lengthy holiday over the summer his last car was sold around a similar period

Kev_Mk3

2,814 posts

97 months

Monday 17th July 2017
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ONtheROCS said:
I wasn't aware of this Archie fella and haven't watched any of his videos. Out of curiosity why isn't he racing anymore?
probably they realised he isnt any good and daddy stopped funding it.

thats IMO

M4SER

295 posts

128 months

Monday 17th July 2017
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Beefmeister said:
Just watched Harry Metcalfes vid on the new NSX. That's how it's done. Long video, lots of technical stuff, lots of driving, lots of comfortable chat. Brilliant.
Thanks for kind words, enjoy doing them too but other (work) stuff keeps on getting in the way!
My thinking is to review a car only once, so I like to cover all the tech and experiences a car offers in the single vid.

InitialDave

11,992 posts

121 months

Monday 17th July 2017
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Yes, your videos are always a highlight, I loved the Series 1 Land Rover one.

While you're here - and speaking of Land Rovers - what was with the "don't say Bond" pantomime for the Spectre Defender video?
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