RE: Ford Focus RS

[lei69gh]

Wow, who would have thought a hatchback comparison would cause such controversy?

Autocar had another R26R Focus RS test.

In conclusion:



"The Focus RS is a wonderful car; I don't doubt it's the fastest series production front-drive car ever made. And if you want the best four-seat hot hatchback money can buy, look no further. But if you want the best driver's car... don't have friends."

Both fantastic cars. I'd be proud to own either!

[Mr Whippy]

rsstman said:

Mr Whippy said:

I'm not an expert

so why and try and act like you are?

and this technical data you want people to magic up rather than marketing spiel? where are we likely to find that?

enough is enough, i am sure you just do it to wind people up.

Ok then, I am an expert. That has sorted that one out. Nice to see how qualifying your posts with a few words overrides the nature of their content, despite it not changing in relevance or accuracy


You don't magic data up, you ask Ford for it, but instead they dumb it down so it sounds better than it is, and then the marketing people sell even a turd as if it is something special! As said, have you actually READ some of the crap in the brochures of cars?


Enough isn't enough, I have a valid point and if you can't accept it/grasp it then it isn't my problem to stop making it.

Edited by Mr Whippy on Wednesday 11th March 14:56

[Dr Imran T]

Mr Whippy said:

rsstman said:

Mr Whippy said:

I'm not an expert

so why and try and act like you are?

and this technical data you want people to magic up rather than marketing spiel? where are we likely to find that?

enough is enough, i am sure you just do it to wind people up.

Ok then, I am an expert. That has sorted that one out. Nice to see how qualifying your posts with a few words overrides the nature of their content, despite it not changing in relevance or accuracy


You don't magic data up, you ask Ford for it, but instead they dumb it down so it sounds better than it is, and then the marketing people sell even a turd as if it is something special! As said, have you actually READ some of the crap in the brochures of cars?


Enough isn't enough, I have a valid point and if you can't accept it/grasp it then it isn't my problem to stop making it.

Edited by Mr Whippy on Wednesday 11th March 14:56

I'm with you on the marketing crap - they like to 'sex' things up to make it sound better than it is.. don't get me started on sales/brochure nonsense.. ESP/PSMP/DCSCS/ITCSP blah blah 'so you mean the car has traction control then?'
gosh - I find salesman speak almost as annoying as management speak!

[Dave_ST220]

No, enough IS enough! If it bothers you so much why don't YOU ask Ford for the data you so crave? That would leave the rest of us to enjoy motoring Your like a bloody stuck record.

[Mr Whippy]

Dave_ST220 said:

No, enough IS enough! If it bothers you so much why don't YOU ask Ford for the data you so crave? That would leave the rest of us to enjoy motoring Your like a bloody stuck record.

I will just wait for a decent magazine like auto motor und sport or the likes to do a test with measured data in there instead, then at least it is comparable data measured the same way

(on a side note, not sure why Evo stopped doing the corner weights vs claimed weights, dyno data etc in their reviews as it was quite interesting, hey ho )

[pinchmeimdreamin]

Mr Whippy said:

Dave_ST220 said:

No, enough IS enough! If it bothers you so much why don't YOU ask Ford for the data you so crave? That would leave the rest of us to enjoy motoring Your like a bloody stuck record.

I will just wait for a decent magazine To say its useless and The R26R is the only car worth having

(on a side note, not sure why Evo stopped doing the corner weights vs claimed weights, dyno data etc in their reviews as it was quite interesting, hey ho )

EFA

[Mr Whippy]

pinchmeimdreamin said:

Mr Whippy said:

Dave_ST220 said:

No, enough IS enough! If it bothers you so much why don't YOU ask Ford for the data you so crave? That would leave the rest of us to enjoy motoring Your like a bloody stuck record.

I will just wait for a decent magazine To say its useless and The R26R is the only car worth having

(on a side note, not sure why Evo stopped doing the corner weights vs claimed weights, dyno data etc in their reviews as it was quite interesting, hey ho )

EFA

I think the R26R is stupid too.

The R26 makes more sense. I do celebrate the R26R for being the mad/fast version the right way mad/fast versions should be made though

[rsstman]

Mr Whippy said:

rsstman said:

Mr Whippy said:

I'm not an expert

so why and try and act like you are?

and this technical data you want people to magic up rather than marketing spiel? where are we likely to find that?

enough is enough, i am sure you just do it to wind people up.

Ok then, I am an expert.

You don't magic data up, you ask Ford for it, but instead they dumb it down so it sounds better than it is, and then the marketing people sell even a turd as if it is something special! As said, have you actually READ some of the crap in the brochures of cars?

so now you are an expert, well that just shows what rubbish you talk.

and if you want data from ford you go ask for it because nobody else cares.

go and get yourself an r26 or a 123d, maybe it will make your life complete as i am sure they dont jazz things up at all in their brochures.

[asbo]

Has anyone read the Drivers Rebublic review yet?

After winning against the R26.R and the STI...

Chris Harris said:

[After discussing the used car alternatives] A [M3] CSL would be a blast, but I'd take an RS.

Sounds like a pretty convincing case to me.

Congrats to Ford

[sjc]

lei69gh said:

Autocar had another R26R Focus RS test.

In conclusion:

"The Focus RS is a wonderful car; I don't doubt it's the fastest series production front-drive car ever made. And if you want the best four-seat hot hatchback money can buy, look no further. But if you want the best driver's car... don't have friends."

Just read that in Evo, think that sums it up very well. I think that also proves that in reality they're not direct rivals.A two seater hot hatch doesn't make sense to me. Sure it's great fun though.

[Blukoo]

Focus RS video with a difference

http://www.vox.de/495_4868.php?video_id=70029

Shame its in german.

[pinchmeimdreamin]

asbo said:

Has anyone read the Drivers Rebublic review yet?

After winning against the R26.R and the STI...

Chris Harris said:

[After discussing the used car alternatives] A [M3] CSL would be a blast, but I'd take an RS.

Sounds like a pretty convincing case to me.

Congrats to Ford

What does he know He is obviously wrong

[Mr Whippy]

rsstman said:

Mr Whippy said:

rsstman said:

Mr Whippy said:

I'm not an expert

so why and try and act like you are?

and this technical data you want people to magic up rather than marketing spiel? where are we likely to find that?

enough is enough, i am sure you just do it to wind people up.

Ok then, I am an expert.

You don't magic data up, you ask Ford for it, but instead they dumb it down so it sounds better than it is, and then the marketing people sell even a turd as if it is something special! As said, have you actually READ some of the crap in the brochures of cars?

so now you are an expert, well that just shows what rubbish you talk.

and if you want data from ford you go ask for it because nobody else cares.

go and get yourself an r26 or a 123d, maybe it will make your life complete as i am sure they dont jazz things up at all in their brochures.

Well I think the 123d is pretty crap too.

What are your qualifications to decide upon my ability to be an authority on what I discuss?

Who made you an expert on deciding who is an expert on things you clearly don't care to, or want to, know anything about anyway?

[Nolar Dog]

fking hell you lot are boring.

Just shut up about the God damn car and wait until you can drive one.

[rsstman]

Mr Whippy said:

rsstman said:

Mr Whippy said:

rsstman said:

Mr Whippy said:

I'm not an expert

so why and try and act like you are?

and this technical data you want people to magic up rather than marketing spiel? where are we likely to find that?

enough is enough, i am sure you just do it to wind people up.

Ok then, I am an expert.

You don't magic data up, you ask Ford for it, but instead they dumb it down so it sounds better than it is, and then the marketing people sell even a turd as if it is something special! As said, have you actually READ some of the crap in the brochures of cars?

so now you are an expert, well that just shows what rubbish you talk.

and if you want data from ford you go ask for it because nobody else cares.

go and get yourself an r26 or a 123d, maybe it will make your life complete as i am sure they dont jazz things up at all in their brochures.

Well I think the 123d is pretty crap too.

What are your qualifications to decide upon my ability to be an authority on what I discuss?

Who made you an expert on deciding who is an expert on things you clearly don't care to, or want to, know anything about anyway?

what qualifies me to know you talk absolute rubbish and also qualifies everyone else too is that 1 minute you are "no expert" then very soon after you "are an expert" pretty simple really proving u talk nothing but tripe.

oh and the 123d you think is crap... remember this? just another point to prove that you really change your mind like the weather.

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

in 2 months you will probably tell everyone how you always knew the focus RS could never have been better and is amazing.

[Daniel1]

I love it. I would love one. But i'm not convinced by the FWD arguement, simply because i will be wanting more power later in the cars life :-(

[Blukoo]

Went into the dealer today and found out my dads will be built on the 17th, so it should be with us in the middle of Apirl.
Thats a month later than the original build date, but its not too bad I guess.

[leon_t]

rsstman said:

oh and the 123d you think is crap... remember this? just another point to prove that you really change your mind like the weather.

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

in 2 months you will probably tell everyone how you always knew the focus RS could never have been better and is amazing.

Maybe when you calm down you'll realise 'Welshbeef' is the 123d lover, and mr whippy is a different member.

Mr Whippy: How's the 306 btw?

[rsstman]

leon_t said:

Maybe when you calm down you'll realise 'Welshbeef' is the 123d lover, and mr whippy is a different member.

Mr Whippy: How's the 306 btw?

sorry it turns out i am wrong an retract my bmw 123d statement, in my head i had them as the same person, but there is no calming down necessary as i am as cool as a cucumber. i still think he talks poo though.

Edited by rsstman on Thursday 12th March 12:20

[AlexS]

Mr Whippy said:

Dave_ST220 said:

No, enough IS enough! If it bothers you so much why don't YOU ask Ford for the data you so crave? That would leave the rest of us to enjoy motoring Your like a bloody stuck record.

I will just wait for a decent magazine like auto motor und sport or the likes to do a test with measured data in there instead, then at least it is comparable data measured the same way

(on a side note, not sure why Evo stopped doing the corner weights vs claimed weights, dyno data etc in their reviews as it was quite interesting, hey ho )

They used WRC technologies for dyno data (and I suspect corner weight stuff) who went bust a year or so back.