The "Sh*t Driving Caught On Cam" Thread Vol 3
Discussion
Other avoidance practices are available. Especially so given the time the poster had available to him before the"event". More so if the poster had put any thought to his driving in the three or four miles before the merge.
Terrible driving by the poster. Surprised he thought he'd get any/much support on here to be honest. A real shame he continues to believe he isn't part of any problem.
Terrible driving by the poster. Surprised he thought he'd get any/much support on here to be honest. A real shame he continues to believe he isn't part of any problem.
scenario8 said:
Other avoidance practices are available. Especially so given the time the poster had available to him before the"event". More so if the poster had put any thought to his driving in the three or four miles before the merge.
Terrible driving by the poster. Surprised he thought he'd get any/much support on here to be honest. A real shame he continues to believe he isn't part of any problem.
For a sec I thought you were serious but then the highlighted bit proves you're sarcastic. I love that bit.Terrible driving by the poster. Surprised he thought he'd get any/much support on here to be honest. A real shame he continues to believe he isn't part of any problem.
So I assume that when you drive through a roundabout where the council/highway agency planted massive hedges that block view of other traffic you simply fly through that roundabout without thinking for a second that perhaps you should increase alertness, slow down and give way to those who have the right of way.
It reminds me of this case
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLBuedP9rQA
where many on here were actually blaming Peugeot driver for not speeding up to take off speed which would have made him avoid poor Morgan driver who had to pull out because it was convenient to do so.
It reminds me of this case
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLBuedP9rQA
where many on here were actually blaming Peugeot driver for not speeding up to take off speed which would have made him avoid poor Morgan driver who had to pull out because it was convenient to do so.
VGTICE said:
g3org3y said:
I can understand if there was a car passing you in 2 (and as such forced your hand)
If there was a car in 2 he'd have nowhere to go. Would that still be his fault and how does that add or remove fault from the other party who didn't make sure 1 is clear before pulling out?It's similar to typical PH outrage i.e. lorries barging their way out of 1 into 2 without giving a single f
k if they block/bump into anyone.If he can see someone pulling out and lane 2 is busy to the extent a move across isn't possible, I'd expect the OP to come off the throttle and start consider braking to avoid a fan/s
t interface. I see no evidence of that.By the letter of the law, the driver pulling out of the slip road was at fault. The OP didn't help things and in fact exacerbated the situation, one could argue intentionally (given a 5 second move to lane 2 would have solved matters) to make a point.
TBH, it's a perfect example of what the thread title suggests.
VGTICE said:
So I assume that when you drive through a roundabout where the council/highway agency planted massive hedges that block view of other traffic you simply fly through that roundabout without thinking for a second that perhaps you should increase alertness, slow down and give way to those who have the right of way.
It reminds me of this case
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLBuedP9rQA
where many on here were actually blaming Peugeot driver for not speeding up to take off speed which would have made him avoid poor Morgan driver who had to pull out because it was convenient to do so.
What possible thought process have you employed to type those letters in that order in response to my post?It reminds me of this case
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLBuedP9rQA
where many on here were actually blaming Peugeot driver for not speeding up to take off speed which would have made him avoid poor Morgan driver who had to pull out because it was convenient to do so.
Do you know that stretch of the A3? Are you aware of the large number of potential hazards in the stretch leading up to and beyond that merge? Are you aware of all the road signs placed along that stretch to warn drivers of potential issues? Bombing it along at circa 70mph (perhaps we'll let that self confessed estimation slide) in L1 for a few miles either side of that incident will almost always involve putting yourself at a heightened probability of encountering slower traffic. So use some observational skills and employ some intelligence.
It is rare to see that stretch that empty and free flowing but even if the video is indicative of the flow prior to the clip then the poster will almost certainly have been in L2 for large sections in the few miles before that incident.
That poster either had a very very long sneeze leading up to the encounter or displayed terrible driving practices and I strongly suspect deliberately manoeuvred his vehicle in such a way as to make "a point" or teach the other driver a lesson which, if true, is a very stupid thing to do, probably one handed, at circa 70mph.
VGTICE said:
g3org3y said:
I can understand if there was a car passing you in 2 (and as such forced your hand)
If there was a car in 2 he'd have nowhere to go. Would that still be his fault and how does that add or remove fault from the other party who didn't make sure 1 is clear before pulling out?There is no fair comparison with lorries who could sit and wait for a gap to pull out in to. There is no fair comparison with circumstances involving roundabouts or Morgans where someone fails to give way. To state the obvious, at junctions and roundabouts it's normal practice to stop and wait. We do not want to force people to stop at the tip of motorway slip roads in anything other than exceptional circumstances.
We do expect people to co-operate when someone in a slow car needs them to make a small allowance so they can safely join. Normal people recognise that a car accelerating up a slip road has to commit to the manoeuvre several seconds before they can see that exact circumstances they'll be merging in to, and because the traffic established on the motorway have options available (specifically speed adjustment and changing lanes) that are not available to the joining car.
To be honest, this shouldn't really need explaining.
LarJammer said:
I removed it incase someone blew an artery, then id be a murderer too.
Here are the facts - op travelling at c.70mph in lane 1 of a major A road. Large gap to the car in front. Blue car on slip road ahead slows right down & joins A road at c.30mph about 2 car lengths ahead of op. Op swerves around blue car and gives him some horn. Everyone lives and gets on with their day. Internet goes mad.
It would be better just to have left the video rather than give your own take of what you thought happened. Clearly you never expected the negative reaction and are still struggling to see the part you played in the incident. Here are the facts - op travelling at c.70mph in lane 1 of a major A road. Large gap to the car in front. Blue car on slip road ahead slows right down & joins A road at c.30mph about 2 car lengths ahead of op. Op swerves around blue car and gives him some horn. Everyone lives and gets on with their day. Internet goes mad.
You appear to lack any kind of understanding or responsibility. Amusing that you have deleted the video and are making wisecrack comments against people who rightly criticised your driving. Sometimes you just need to put your hands up and admit you were at fault and not keep making silly excuses. It's just making you look even worse.
Cam car could have moved into L2 but it's up to the merging car to merge safely. They didn't build up any kind of speed at all.
I'm very familiar with that junction at Wisely on the A3 and the slip is more than long enough to get to whatever the carriage speed is before merging. I'm usually pulling out the end at 70 having timed my joining the carriageway to slip between 2 cars unless it's busy in which case traffic is moving slow enough for you to creep out and merge without issue.
I'm very familiar with that junction at Wisely on the A3 and the slip is more than long enough to get to whatever the carriage speed is before merging. I'm usually pulling out the end at 70 having timed my joining the carriageway to slip between 2 cars unless it's busy in which case traffic is moving slow enough for you to creep out and merge without issue.
ashleyman said:
Cam car could have moved into L2 but it's up to the merging car to merge safely. They didn't build up any kind of speed at all.
I'm very familiar with that junction at Wisely on the A3 and the slip is more than long enough to get to whatever the carriage speed is before merging. I'm usually pulling out the end at 70 having timed my joining the carriageway to slip between 2 cars unless it's busy in which case traffic is moving slow enough for you to creep out and merge without issue.
Haven't seen the vid because it's been removed now, but from reading the posts it appears clear what happened.I'm very familiar with that junction at Wisely on the A3 and the slip is more than long enough to get to whatever the carriage speed is before merging. I'm usually pulling out the end at 70 having timed my joining the carriageway to slip between 2 cars unless it's busy in which case traffic is moving slow enough for you to creep out and merge without issue.
I just wish what you said (my bold) was understood by some of the tards on our roads. Yes of course we move over to L2 if we can, but those joining the main carriageway do not have the right of way.
I'm not saying he isn't a tt, indeed someone did it to me whilst towing a massive trailer when they could have easily moved over and the first thing I did was shout out wker. However it was up to me to get onto the motorway properly and the bloke towing the trailer can do what he wants at the end of the day.
I managed to see the above video and the joining car entered at a totally inappropriate speed, personally I would have slowed down or moved across but then I'm not a tt and I also don't want a crash, however its not a "merge point", the words favoured by many on here who don't want to wait in traffic, its a give way line, plain and simple.
Maybe we should all stop on roundabouts from now on so the slow moving Doris's of this world dont have to stop at the entrance anymore.
t, indeed someone did it to me whilst towing a massive trailer when they could have easily moved over and the first thing I did was shout out wker. However it was up to me to get onto the motorway properly and the bloke towing the trailer can do what he wants at the end of the day.I managed to see the above video and the joining car entered at a totally inappropriate speed, personally I would have slowed down or moved across but then I'm not a t
t and I also don't want a crash, however its not a "merge point", the words favoured by many on here who don't want to wait in traffic, its a give way line, plain and simple.Maybe we should all stop on roundabouts from now on so the slow moving Doris's of this world dont have to stop at the entrance anymore.
LarJammer said:
Here are the facts - op travelling at c.70mph in lane 1 of a major A road..
Except you were doing 90 mph. In a 3 second period the car passed 16 white dashes, centre lane markings which are spaced at 5 per 40m which puts your speed at 40 ms-1. that's 2.4km in a minute, which equates to 90mph.It's one thing to be unable to see your own poor driving, it happens. There are thousands of piss poor drivers out there, yourself included. But to then outright lie about your speed on a forum full of experienced drivers who can accurately determine a vehicles speed based upon the knowledge of the lengths of the white lines on the road just highlights your naivety.
Why are you still here?
mickmcpaddy said:
...its a give way line, plain and simple...
It's a pity that a couple of people are posting things like this because, whilst no one disagrees with it, and literally no one has tried to claim otherwise, one imagines that the chap who posted the video will probably see it as validation.Vipers said:
Haven't seen the vid because it's been removed now, but from reading the posts it appears clear what happened.
I just wish what you said (my bold) was understood by some of the tards on our roads. Yes of course we move over to L2 if we can, but those joining the main carriageway do not have the right of way.
He was in lane 1 of 3. The little Peugeot was accelerating to join the road, was clearly visible, and their intentions clear. He had the entire road to himself and plenty of time to move over, but didn't. I just wish what you said (my bold) was understood by some of the tards on our roads. Yes of course we move over to L2 if we can, but those joining the main carriageway do not have the right of way.
It was clear the Peugeot was going to be joining the road going much slower than the camera car who looked to be going quite quick. The camera car showed no reaction or anticipation for the blatantly obvious events in front of him. He could have changed lane or backed off. Rather than doing either he kept his foot in it and then had to swerve into lane 2 at the very last second to avoid running into the Peugeot. It was very clear they were going to arrive on the same piece of road very early in the video.
Totally avoidable and a totally unnecessary incident. He either has zero perception, wasn't paying any attention, or wanted a near miss for the camera.
If there was a car in lane 2 there would have been nowhere to go and that would have been a serious accident.
Edited by Driver101 on Monday 3rd July 11:57
It's still the responsibility of the joiner to not get into this situation. Much harder to do if the car in lane 1 is going much faster than expected though.
There does seem to be a plague of people who will join a motorway/DC at 35mph and just expect everyone to dodge them though. They're not doing themselves any favours. Nearly saw an old couple in a Jazz get wiped out by a 40T artic doing that. I had to swerve onto the grass in the central reservation as he did an emergency swerve on my left. Nearly had kittens.
As others have said, driving *should* be about cooperation and "I was in the right!" is of little use if uttered from a hospital bed. As people who have a passion for good driving as well as cars we should be holding ourselves to a higher standard of observation and anticipation.
So in short, not avoiding that was prime DCW behaviour, just as much a hitting the horn before the brakes and shouting an pointing "CAMERA MATE!".
There does seem to be a plague of people who will join a motorway/DC at 35mph and just expect everyone to dodge them though. They're not doing themselves any favours. Nearly saw an old couple in a Jazz get wiped out by a 40T artic doing that. I had to swerve onto the grass in the central reservation as he did an emergency swerve on my left. Nearly had kittens.
As others have said, driving *should* be about cooperation and "I was in the right!" is of little use if uttered from a hospital bed. As people who have a passion for good driving as well as cars we should be holding ourselves to a higher standard of observation and anticipation.
So in short, not avoiding that was prime DCW behaviour, just as much a hitting the horn before the brakes and shouting an pointing "CAMERA MATE!".
Ditto(ish) above.
I've noticed this more and more - people focusing on the letter of the law rather than trying to smooth over the edges..... a momentary lift/switching lanes, in a way that is not realistically going to impact your arrival time one jot, just lubricates the smooth flow of traffic and avoids unneccesary drama.
It's not about being right all the time - it's about being considerate, basically not a total c*nt standing to statute. try to imagine yourself in the other guys shoes for once.
Otherwise give it a few years and what hope has anyone of getting flashed out from a sideroad etc?
I've noticed this more and more - people focusing on the letter of the law rather than trying to smooth over the edges..... a momentary lift/switching lanes, in a way that is not realistically going to impact your arrival time one jot, just lubricates the smooth flow of traffic and avoids unneccesary drama.
It's not about being right all the time - it's about being considerate, basically not a total c*nt standing to statute. try to imagine yourself in the other guys shoes for once.
Otherwise give it a few years and what hope has anyone of getting flashed out from a sideroad etc?
I often use that stretch of the A3. I am normally heading to the M25 but NEVER get into lane 1 until after this slip as there are always many cars merging in. I never have a problem getting into lane 1 after this point as there is still plenty of time to merge.
I was always taught that the merger should do their best to match the speed of the cars in lane 1 and cars in lane 1 should also speed match or pull into lane 2 to allow the other car to carry on unimpeded... Therefore both cars were wrong!
I was always taught that the merger should do their best to match the speed of the cars in lane 1 and cars in lane 1 should also speed match or pull into lane 2 to allow the other car to carry on unimpeded... Therefore both cars were wrong!
Generally I just pull across for slips, well in advance. Makes life a lot easier - I had a bad experience with somebody hanging back in L2, but then accelerating as a slip road came up. I accelerated too as I saw the stream of traffic on the slip, but he was intent on blocking me against the slip. Slip traffic seemed intent on coming on - solid horn and positioning as close to the tt in L2 as possible was the order of the day. Never again.
t in L2 as possible was the order of the day. Never again.Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff