Supercars spotted, some rarities (vol 7)
Discussion
Doofus said:
havoc said:
Mikey - I know they've stated it was never intended to be resolved, but have you ever seen Ferrari make an ugly F-car?
beat me to it Its all subjective, never been a fan of most Ferrari styling
Though, even as a McLaren owner, I'm not a fan of the 720/senna/speedtail styling either
havoc said:
Petrus1983 said:
mikey k said:
TBF it was never intended to be "resolved"
It was always about function over form as a track car
For the owners I know it does it very well, it now holds the road car record for spa.
It is plug ugly though!
One well known owner on here did 50miles in his before returning it. It was always about function over form as a track car
For the owners I know it does it very well, it now holds the road car record for spa.
It is plug ugly though!
Mikey - I know they've stated it was never intended to be resolved, but have you ever seen Ferrari make an ugly F-car? That attitude is what I struggle with - surely it would have taken comparatively little to improve the styling considerably, while taking almost nothing away from the performance?!?
The problem is, for a lot less money you can get a quicker ex-GT3/GTE-class car (once de-restricted). So why, other than willy-waving, would you buy a Senna? 720S by all accounts far superior on road, GT3 car quicker (and probably superior to drive on-track), plus change in your pocket...
)A derestricted track is always better value to buy what ever you pick, no way you can use it on the road so its note really a fair comparision. I have a 675LT I think its a better proposition than a Senna or a 720. Great track car and and just as good as a GT. The 720 is crazy fast but very detached to drive on road or track, the LT version I hope will be better than my 675 or a Senna
isaldiri said:
As mikey k says, the Senna has been taken around Spa under 2:25 (vbox recorded). Cynically lead marketing exercise or not that is a breathtakingly quick time for a road legal car (and I see utterly no point in comparing to a GT3 race car which requires slicks and a team of mechanics to run). The Manthey modified gt2rs on Cup2 R tyres which are considerably stickier than Trofeo Rs only managed 2:31 by comparison so whatever one might say about the Senna's looks or Mclaren's marketing, the car has actually delivered on it's design brief to be quick.
It was a Senna owner on a McLaren organised track day in his own car who did it, using the new Trofeo R compound for the Senna.v15ben said:
Stunning purple McLaren 675LT (P11 OOV) on the M74 in the Scottish Borders today.
Owned by a racing driver, but presumably nothing to do with the McLaren P1 'OOV' press car?
One of the highest spec 675LT made. Owned by a racing driver, but presumably nothing to do with the McLaren P1 'OOV' press car?
https://www.instagram.com/grahamdavidsonracing/
mikey k said:
isaldiri said:
As mikey k says, the Senna has been taken around Spa under 2:25 (vbox recorded). Cynically lead marketing exercise or not that is a breathtakingly quick time for a road legal car (and I see utterly no point in comparing to a GT3 race car which requires slicks and a team of mechanics to run). The Manthey modified gt2rs on Cup2 R tyres which are considerably stickier than Trofeo Rs only managed 2:31 by comparison so whatever one might say about the Senna's looks or Mclaren's marketing, the car has actually delivered on it's design brief to be quick.
It was a Senna owner on a McLaren organised track day in his own car who did it, using the new Trofeo R compound for the Senna.havoc said:
if I was part of the Senna family I'd be having a word or two with Ron...NOT a fitting tribute to the great man.
I don't think Ron signed this one off mikey k said:
TBF it was never intended to be "resolved"
It was always about function over form as a track car
For the owners I know it does it very well, it now holds the road car record for spa.
It is plug ugly though!
I think it was "2manycars" on here that said if you want to go fast on a track buy a used 458 GT3 race car and some tyres. Probably cheaper too.It was always about function over form as a track car
For the owners I know it does it very well, it now holds the road car record for spa.
It is plug ugly though!
I see more logic in that, than buying a truly hideous car that is going to be terrible on road, and not "ultimate" scare the s
t out of you fast on track 
Blown2CV said:
take a look at the speedtail if you want to see a more ugly mclaren
Its a bit of a heap, but it's not SENNA bad is it Some talented people made the Speedtail look awesome!
Or in 2020 WEC form
Blown2CV said:
oh to be bored of supercars and even hypercars. The heart bleeds!!
It bleeds like a blown engine on a 2cv. So since this is my Senna we’re talking about, allow me to weigh in on this thread.
I bought the Senna thinking it’d go well with my 650S and my 675lt.
I honestly thought that it’d be a great car, something to absolutely blow the 675lt away.
Instead it’s just another Supercar although nowhere near as usable as say a 911 Turbo or a 488 Pista. I know there’ll be a fair few people say it should be mainly for the track and to stop complaining, if this is the case then it shouldn’t have a number plate. All in all it’s just a bit s
t and mundane. I’d rather a pure track focused car, so yeah I’m selling it and freeing up some garage space ready for my next arrivals that are in waiting. 2manycars said:
It bleeds like a blown engine on a 2cv.
So since this is my Senna we’re talking about, allow me to weigh in on this thread.
I bought the Senna thinking it’d go well with my 650S and my 675lt.
I honestly thought that it’d be a great car, something to absolutely blow the 675lt away.
Instead it’s just another Supercar although nowhere near as usable as say a 911 Turbo or a 488 Pista. I know there’ll be a fair few people say it should be mainly for the track and to stop complaining, if this is the case then it shouldn’t have a number plate. All in all it’s just a bit st and mundane. I’d rather a pure track focused car, so yeah I’m selling it and freeing up some garage space ready for my next arrivals that are in waiting.
So since this is my Senna we’re talking about, allow me to weigh in on this thread.
I bought the Senna thinking it’d go well with my 650S and my 675lt.
I honestly thought that it’d be a great car, something to absolutely blow the 675lt away.
Instead it’s just another Supercar although nowhere near as usable as say a 911 Turbo or a 488 Pista. I know there’ll be a fair few people say it should be mainly for the track and to stop complaining, if this is the case then it shouldn’t have a number plate. All in all it’s just a bit s
t and mundane. I’d rather a pure track focused car, so yeah I’m selling it and freeing up some garage space ready for my next arrivals that are in waiting. 
several owners have come to the same conclusion.
Interestin you have 675LT as well, how did it compare? Did you keep that?
mikey k said:
It was a Senna owner on a McLaren organised track day in his own car who did it, using the new Trofeo R compound for the Senna.
There's a video of an amateur dude taking a 720S round only about 10 seconds slower in traffic on road tyres. Considering the Senna has about 10% more power and all that aero (and costs 5x as much) I'd really expect it to be faster.
Or maybe it just shows what a bargain the 720 is
Barry Homo said:
mikey k said:
It was a Senna owner on a McLaren organised track day in his own car who did it, using the new Trofeo R compound for the Senna.
There's a video of an amateur dude taking a 720S round only about 10 seconds slower in traffic on road tyres. Considering the Senna has about 10% more power and all that aero (and costs 5x as much) I'd really expect it to be faster.
Or maybe it just shows what a bargain the 720 is
Its less draggy than the Senna so faster top end, doesn't have as much aero so slower in the corners.
I'd have a 720 spider with the P1 seats, better tyres and better geometry.
Its a bit woolly on the steering as standard.
mikey k said:
2manycars said:
It bleeds like a blown engine on a 2cv.
So since this is my Senna we’re talking about, allow me to weigh in on this thread.
I bought the Senna thinking it’d go well with my 650S and my 675lt.
I honestly thought that it’d be a great car, something to absolutely blow the 675lt away.
Instead it’s just another Supercar although nowhere near as usable as say a 911 Turbo or a 488 Pista. I know there’ll be a fair few people say it should be mainly for the track and to stop complaining, if this is the case then it shouldn’t have a number plate. All in all it’s just a bit st and mundane. I’d rather a pure track focused car, so yeah I’m selling it and freeing up some garage space ready for my next arrivals that are in waiting.
So since this is my Senna we’re talking about, allow me to weigh in on this thread.
I bought the Senna thinking it’d go well with my 650S and my 675lt.
I honestly thought that it’d be a great car, something to absolutely blow the 675lt away.
Instead it’s just another Supercar although nowhere near as usable as say a 911 Turbo or a 488 Pista. I know there’ll be a fair few people say it should be mainly for the track and to stop complaining, if this is the case then it shouldn’t have a number plate. All in all it’s just a bit s
t and mundane. I’d rather a pure track focused car, so yeah I’m selling it and freeing up some garage space ready for my next arrivals that are in waiting. several owners have come to the same conclusion.
Interestin you have 675LT as well, how did it compare? Did you keep that?
From what I’ve heard from some people I take VERY serious, McLaren are doing the rounds at the moment trying to sell off their road car arm of the business so they can focus solely on their track/racing side. They’ve over saturated their very niche clientele list with their crazy run of cars.
MP4-12C, MP4-12C Spider, 650S, 650S Spider, P1, 650 Can Am, 675LT, 675LT spider, 675LT carbon Series, P1 GTR, 570, 570GT, 720S, 688 HS, 720S Performance, 570 Spider, 540, 600LT, Senna, Speedtail, 720S Spider, 600LT Spider, McLaren GT, Senna GTR.
They’ve literally over produced a line of limited production supercars!!!!
Barry Homo said:
mikey k said:
It was a Senna owner on a McLaren organised track day in his own car who did it, using the new Trofeo R compound for the Senna.
There's a video of an amateur dude taking a 720S round only about 10 seconds slower in traffic on road tyres. Considering the Senna has about 10% more power and all that aero (and costs 5x as much) I'd really expect it to be faster.
Or maybe it just shows what a bargain the 720 is
Barry homo - I don't think you realise exactly how quick a car 10 seconds a lap faster is.....
Barry Homo said:
I realise exactly how fast it is thanks.
Ok and you really think a Senna should be more than 10s a lap faster than a 720? Despite both being on road legal tyres? That's the Senna fully out of sight down Kemmel when the 720 hasn't even gone over Radillon by the end of 2 laps. Or it's almost the difference between a GT4 race car vs a GT3 one. I'm genuinely interested how many seconds you actually think is reasonable then for a Senna to be quicker over a 720.
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