Pics of your Fast Estate...
Discussion
spid3rz said:
Does mine count? not that fast compared to modern estates, it does make a nice noise though!
Meets my definition of fast for a car and surely fast is more about how it is driven as opposed to the physical capabilities of the car that may never be used by someone that isn't into driving ? Edited by spid3rz on Saturday 9th December 10:46
Percy. said:
leglessAlex said:
About five and a half seconds to 60? I reckon that’s fast 
530d is 5.8 to 60, so, is it fast if that is the parameter? ETA I like seeing estates, fast ones even more so and any estate under 6 seconds is almost certainly 'fast' imo
I have to admit, I'm fairly accommodating to even warm estates being included, because they're not SUVs, and more people having spicy estates is more better.
In other news, there's a dark blue, 5.5l, '16 plate E63 for sale at the moment and I desperately want it. It would cost me so much to run with insurance prices being as they are, I don't think there's any point in even going to see it. It is making me very sad
braddo said:
ChocolateFrog said:
Seller has to be dreaming. Nearly 16 years old and 100k miles. It's not even a particularly desirable car, no doubt £700 a year to tax too.
That'll be scrapped in another 5 years.
Check back in in 5 years' time to see how wrong you are. That'll be scrapped in another 5 years.
Caddyshack said:
Having driven both I thought the M5 would be quicker.
I think the age old issue is that the M5 will be quicker if you absolutely nail the take off and each gear change perfectly. The deceptively conservative power outputs provided by Alpina and the Switch-Tronic gearbox means the Alpina owner simply has to mash the loud pedal and point the car. The declared 0-60's at the time there was 0.2 seconds between B10 V8 and M5, and 0.1 between B10 V8S and m5; in the real world there seems precious little between them.This argument of what constitutes "fast" or not needs to be measured against what was contemporary/the norm at the time, in my reckoning.
e.g a 2005 Ford Mondeo MK3 ST220 is a fast estate in my book, doing 0-60 in 7.3 seconds.
However a 2022 Toyota Corolla 2.0 vvti which does it in 7.8 seconds is NOT a fast estate.
I guess it also boils down to if it is actually fun/feels good to drive fast as well.
e.g a 2005 Ford Mondeo MK3 ST220 is a fast estate in my book, doing 0-60 in 7.3 seconds.
However a 2022 Toyota Corolla 2.0 vvti which does it in 7.8 seconds is NOT a fast estate.
I guess it also boils down to if it is actually fun/feels good to drive fast as well.
identti said:
My recently acquired fast estate with my wife giving it the seal of approval (begrudgingly):
Has been quite a few “couldn’t you just buy a Merc with a normal engine like everyone else” comments (obviously not!).
She says that, but I bet she likes driving it Has been quite a few “couldn’t you just buy a Merc with a normal engine like everyone else” comments (obviously not!).
My gf rolls her eyes at the Alpine and most of my fast cars, but always loves the opportunity to take the keys herself!
I'm very envious. That is, I think, the finest small estate of all time, the engine is an absolute masterpiece.
Most of the cars on here are bona fide fast estates. Nice try with the 530d, but spare no tears when the question asked is met with an honest response!
A Ford Focus ST is a fast estate as is a spec b — they were made for and bought by, buyers that wanted performance whilst carrying a fridge — first and foremost over economy. Would they attract the attention of petrolheads? Yes. Would a fast, economy diesel? No. Sometime inclusion is pointless when we can’t have a bit of fun amongst petrolheads.
We could to and fro pointlessly all day long, but it’s best to just stick to the spirit of the thread (and preferably petrol and more than six cylinders!).
A Ford Focus ST is a fast estate as is a spec b — they were made for and bought by, buyers that wanted performance whilst carrying a fridge — first and foremost over economy. Would they attract the attention of petrolheads? Yes. Would a fast, economy diesel? No. Sometime inclusion is pointless when we can’t have a bit of fun amongst petrolheads.
We could to and fro pointlessly all day long, but it’s best to just stick to the spirit of the thread (and preferably petrol and more than six cylinders!).
bolidemichael said:
Most of the cars on here are bona fide fast estates. Nice try with the 530d, but spare no tears when the question asked is met with an honest response!
A Ford Focus ST is a fast estate as is a spec b — they were made for and bought by, buyers that wanted performance whilst carrying a fridge — first and foremost over economy. Would they attract the attention of petrolheads? Yes. Would a fast, economy diesel? No. Sometime inclusion is pointless when we can’t have a bit of fun amongst petrolheads.
We could to and fro pointlessly all day long, but it’s best to just stick to the spirit of the thread (and preferably petrol and more than six cylinders!).
See, I don't think E500s belong here as, although fast, they are flabby handlers and not for the driving Queefs amongst us A Ford Focus ST is a fast estate as is a spec b — they were made for and bought by, buyers that wanted performance whilst carrying a fridge — first and foremost over economy. Would they attract the attention of petrolheads? Yes. Would a fast, economy diesel? No. Sometime inclusion is pointless when we can’t have a bit of fun amongst petrolheads.
We could to and fro pointlessly all day long, but it’s best to just stick to the spirit of the thread (and preferably petrol and more than six cylinders!).
Or...E500s are OK as they're quick enough and their owners like how they drive. Some people like how large capacity turbo diesels drive too, as weird as they may be
Anyway, long live the fast estate thread, I've enjoyed seeing and reading about all of the cars posted.
phil_cardiff said:
bolidemichael said:
Most of the cars on here are bona fide fast estates. Nice try with the 530d, but spare no tears when the question asked is met with an honest response!
A Ford Focus ST is a fast estate as is a spec b — they were made for and bought by, buyers that wanted performance whilst carrying a fridge — first and foremost over economy. Would they attract the attention of petrolheads? Yes. Would a fast, economy diesel? No. Sometime inclusion is pointless when we can’t have a bit of fun amongst petrolheads.
We could to and fro pointlessly all day long, but it’s best to just stick to the spirit of the thread (and preferably petrol and more than six cylinders!).
See, I don't think E500s belong here as, although fast, they are flabby handlers and not for the driving Queefs amongst us A Ford Focus ST is a fast estate as is a spec b — they were made for and bought by, buyers that wanted performance whilst carrying a fridge — first and foremost over economy. Would they attract the attention of petrolheads? Yes. Would a fast, economy diesel? No. Sometime inclusion is pointless when we can’t have a bit of fun amongst petrolheads.
We could to and fro pointlessly all day long, but it’s best to just stick to the spirit of the thread (and preferably petrol and more than six cylinders!).
Or...E500s are OK as they're quick enough and their owners like how they drive. Some people like how large capacity turbo diesels drive too, as weird as they may be
Anyway, long live the fast estate thread, I've enjoyed seeing and reading about all of the cars posted.
None of us think that many estates will be the last word in handling. However, you’d be surprised at how capable the full airmatic — also found on the E55 AMG — is at suiting the requirements, from load lugging to spirited driving.
Audi S4, 4.9sec 0-62, V6, 344bhp. But diesel.
Is it ‘fast’?…
Contrary to above where someone said chat of what ‘fast’ was spoils things, I find it interesting to hear the differences of opinions.
Personally I’d go with each models highest powered engine being the ‘fast’ one, and the next one down generally being passable.
At least it keeps the thread busy and we’re seeing more barges as a result!
Is it ‘fast’?…
Contrary to above where someone said chat of what ‘fast’ was spoils things, I find it interesting to hear the differences of opinions.
Personally I’d go with each models highest powered engine being the ‘fast’ one, and the next one down generally being passable.
At least it keeps the thread busy and we’re seeing more barges as a result!
Percy. said:
bolidemichael said:
We could to and fro pointlessly all day long, but it’s best to just stick to the spirit of the thread (and preferably petrol and more than six cylinders!).
Best to let all those Alpina D3 owners know they're not welcome in this thread then 
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