Stupid things non petrolheads say....
Discussion
akaRob said:
I know a chap who's 'into his cars' as they put it but really they're into money. Recently they bought a sub 2k 4 pot convertable for no reason other than to show off how wealthy they are (appear to be). Next thing a V8 badge appeared on its boot (classy) and aftermarkey DRLs on order (wooow) but the best bit was the 'V8 XXX' format reg that was purchased for £300. The car is an P reg. Whoops!!! I keep asking why it isn't on the car... Not had time to transfer apparently.
You can re-post this in the "One single thing that makes you think "knob" " thread.Edited by akaRob on Tuesday 20th November 13:52
The number of Audi RS4's that knock about in Bradford with no body kit, raised ride height and stinking of Diesel often with a taxi license on is phenominal
akaRob said:
I know a chap who's 'into his cars' as they put it but really they're into money. Recently they bought a sub 2k 4 pot convertable for no reason other than to show off how wealthy they are (appear to be). Next thing a V8 badge appeared on its boot (classy) and aftermarkey DRLs on order (wooow) but the best bit was the 'V8 XXX' format reg that was purchased for £300. The car is an P reg. Whoops!!! I keep asking why it isn't on the car... Not had time to transfer apparently.
I've £100 here for it if he needs rid fast. Will go nicely on my 535, I decided the money asked for anything close to what I wanted wasn't worth it. Edited by akaRob on Tuesday 20th November 13:52
I’m a little concerned that this post might backfire on me, however I think I am correct, so I will plough on.
My little lad recently asked me why the ‘thing’ on the back of our Volvo is called a spoiler and yet the same ‘thing’ on a racing car is called a wing. I tried explaining it to him (simplified a lot - he is five) along the lines that a spoiler is designed to make the air flow over the car more easily, which decreases the drag coefficient of the car and thus improves economy, whereas a wing is designed to produce downforce and therefore increase grip.
I was then laughed at by my father in law, who told me I was completely wrong and that spoilers and wings were the same thing and the names were interchangeable – they have nothing to do with improving aerodynamics and are purely there to improve grip. He did caveat that with a statement saying most wings/spoilers are only for show, but then went on to say his Legacy has a wing on it to improve grip when cornering, and that it makes a massive difference. It is a standard UK Legacy estate with a 2 litre boxer diesel engine.
My little lad recently asked me why the ‘thing’ on the back of our Volvo is called a spoiler and yet the same ‘thing’ on a racing car is called a wing. I tried explaining it to him (simplified a lot - he is five) along the lines that a spoiler is designed to make the air flow over the car more easily, which decreases the drag coefficient of the car and thus improves economy, whereas a wing is designed to produce downforce and therefore increase grip.
I was then laughed at by my father in law, who told me I was completely wrong and that spoilers and wings were the same thing and the names were interchangeable – they have nothing to do with improving aerodynamics and are purely there to improve grip. He did caveat that with a statement saying most wings/spoilers are only for show, but then went on to say his Legacy has a wing on it to improve grip when cornering, and that it makes a massive difference. It is a standard UK Legacy estate with a 2 litre boxer diesel engine.
Baryonyx said:
Back to the old one you always get when you have a car with a big engine:
"how much does that cost to fill up?"
"Plenty, it's got a 90 litre tank - though you're probably more interested in how many miles it does to the gallon, yes?"
I bet there's a lot of people that think all cars go the same distance, but it's just the amount it costs to fill up that changes."how much does that cost to fill up?"
"Plenty, it's got a 90 litre tank - though you're probably more interested in how many miles it does to the gallon, yes?"
I'm sure of it.
I have no faith in humanity when it comes to anything remotely logic-based.
cv01jw said:
I’m a little concerned that this post might backfire on me, however I think I am correct, so I will plough on.
My little lad recently asked me why the ‘thing’ on the back of our Volvo is called a spoiler and yet the same ‘thing’ on a racing car is called a wing. I tried explaining it to him (simplified a lot - he is five) along the lines that a spoiler is designed to make the air flow over the car more easily, which decreases the drag coefficient of the car and thus improves economy, whereas a wing is designed to produce downforce and therefore increase grip.
I was then laughed at by my father in law, who told me I was completely wrong and that spoilers and wings were the same thing and the names were interchangeable – they have nothing to do with improving aerodynamics and are purely there to improve grip. He did caveat that with a statement saying most wings/spoilers are only for show, but then went on to say his Legacy has a wing on it to improve grip when cornering, and that it makes a massive difference. It is a standard UK Legacy estate with a 2 litre boxer diesel engine.
No, you're spot on. Although he is right about most of them being largely redundant (when road driving)My little lad recently asked me why the ‘thing’ on the back of our Volvo is called a spoiler and yet the same ‘thing’ on a racing car is called a wing. I tried explaining it to him (simplified a lot - he is five) along the lines that a spoiler is designed to make the air flow over the car more easily, which decreases the drag coefficient of the car and thus improves economy, whereas a wing is designed to produce downforce and therefore increase grip.
I was then laughed at by my father in law, who told me I was completely wrong and that spoilers and wings were the same thing and the names were interchangeable – they have nothing to do with improving aerodynamics and are purely there to improve grip. He did caveat that with a statement saying most wings/spoilers are only for show, but then went on to say his Legacy has a wing on it to improve grip when cornering, and that it makes a massive difference. It is a standard UK Legacy estate with a 2 litre boxer diesel engine.
Robb F said:
cv01jw said:
I’m a little concerned that this post might backfire on me, however I think I am correct, so I will plough on.
My little lad recently asked me why the ‘thing’ on the back of our Volvo is called a spoiler and yet the same ‘thing’ on a racing car is called a wing. I tried explaining it to him (simplified a lot - he is five) along the lines that a spoiler is designed to make the air flow over the car more easily, which decreases the drag coefficient of the car and thus improves economy, whereas a wing is designed to produce downforce and therefore increase grip.
I was then laughed at by my father in law, who told me I was completely wrong and that spoilers and wings were the same thing and the names were interchangeable – they have nothing to do with improving aerodynamics and are purely there to improve grip. He did caveat that with a statement saying most wings/spoilers are only for show, but then went on to say his Legacy has a wing on it to improve grip when cornering, and that it makes a massive difference. It is a standard UK Legacy estate with a 2 litre boxer diesel engine.
No, you're spot on. Although he is right about most of them being largely redundant (when road driving)My little lad recently asked me why the ‘thing’ on the back of our Volvo is called a spoiler and yet the same ‘thing’ on a racing car is called a wing. I tried explaining it to him (simplified a lot - he is five) along the lines that a spoiler is designed to make the air flow over the car more easily, which decreases the drag coefficient of the car and thus improves economy, whereas a wing is designed to produce downforce and therefore increase grip.
I was then laughed at by my father in law, who told me I was completely wrong and that spoilers and wings were the same thing and the names were interchangeable – they have nothing to do with improving aerodynamics and are purely there to improve grip. He did caveat that with a statement saying most wings/spoilers are only for show, but then went on to say his Legacy has a wing on it to improve grip when cornering, and that it makes a massive difference. It is a standard UK Legacy estate with a 2 litre boxer diesel engine.
Robb F said:
cv01jw said:
I’m a little concerned that this post might backfire on me, however I think I am correct, so I will plough on.
My little lad recently asked me why the ‘thing’ on the back of our Volvo is called a spoiler and yet the same ‘thing’ on a racing car is called a wing. I tried explaining it to him (simplified a lot - he is five) along the lines that a spoiler is designed to make the air flow over the car more easily, which decreases the drag coefficient of the car and thus improves economy, whereas a wing is designed to produce downforce and therefore increase grip.
I was then laughed at by my father in law, who told me I was completely wrong and that spoilers and wings were the same thing and the names were interchangeable – they have nothing to do with improving aerodynamics and are purely there to improve grip. He did caveat that with a statement saying most wings/spoilers are only for show, but then went on to say his Legacy has a wing on it to improve grip when cornering, and that it makes a massive difference. It is a standard UK Legacy estate with a 2 litre boxer diesel engine.
No, you're spot on. Although he is right about most of them being largely redundant (when road driving)My little lad recently asked me why the ‘thing’ on the back of our Volvo is called a spoiler and yet the same ‘thing’ on a racing car is called a wing. I tried explaining it to him (simplified a lot - he is five) along the lines that a spoiler is designed to make the air flow over the car more easily, which decreases the drag coefficient of the car and thus improves economy, whereas a wing is designed to produce downforce and therefore increase grip.
I was then laughed at by my father in law, who told me I was completely wrong and that spoilers and wings were the same thing and the names were interchangeable – they have nothing to do with improving aerodynamics and are purely there to improve grip. He did caveat that with a statement saying most wings/spoilers are only for show, but then went on to say his Legacy has a wing on it to improve grip when cornering, and that it makes a massive difference. It is a standard UK Legacy estate with a 2 litre boxer diesel engine.
GroundEffect said:
Baryonyx said:
Back to the old one you always get when you have a car with a big engine:
"how much does that cost to fill up?"
"Plenty, it's got a 90 litre tank - though you're probably more interested in how many miles it does to the gallon, yes?"
I bet there's a lot of people that think all cars go the same distance, but it's just the amount it costs to fill up that changes."how much does that cost to fill up?"
"Plenty, it's got a 90 litre tank - though you're probably more interested in how many miles it does to the gallon, yes?"
I'm sure of it.
I have no faith in humanity when it comes to anything remotely logic-based.
vinnie83 said:
So what is the thing on the back of my 997 turbo, a spoiler or a wing? - it rises as the speed gets past IIRC 70 - I always assumed that it rose to increase downforce? (puts on flame suit)
I think you are correct - it is a wing. I would argue a 997 Turbo is a long way from a run of the mill roadcar though.GroundEffect said:
GokTweed said:
Why on the back of boxters and, i think, caymans does the spoiler/wing/whatever rise on a block of metal about as aerodynamic as a brick?
That's not how aerodynamics works. They are there specifically to change the airflow, so the 'block' is part of the design.GokTweed said:
GroundEffect said:
GokTweed said:
Why on the back of boxters and, i think, caymans does the spoiler/wing/whatever rise on a block of metal about as aerodynamic as a brick?
That's not how aerodynamics works. They are there specifically to change the airflow, so the 'block' is part of the design.GokTweed said:
GroundEffect said:
GokTweed said:
Why on the back of boxters and, i think, caymans does the spoiler/wing/whatever rise on a block of metal about as aerodynamic as a brick?
That's not how aerodynamics works. They are there specifically to change the airflow, so the 'block' is part of the design.GroundEffect said:
GokTweed said:
GroundEffect said:
GokTweed said:
Why on the back of boxters and, i think, caymans does the spoiler/wing/whatever rise on a block of metal about as aerodynamic as a brick?
That's not how aerodynamics works. They are there specifically to change the airflow, so the 'block' is part of the design.
t load of drag. Sorry but with my limited knowledge of aerodynamics etc. i'd tend to think if it doesn't look right it probably doesn't work properlycv01jw said:
vinnie83 said:
So what is the thing on the back of my 997 turbo, a spoiler or a wing? - it rises as the speed gets past IIRC 70 - I always assumed that it rose to increase downforce? (puts on flame suit)
I think you are correct - it is a wing. I would argue a 997 Turbo is a long way from a run of the mill roadcar though.ADV
GokTweed said:
GroundEffect said:
GokTweed said:
GroundEffect said:
GokTweed said:
Why on the back of boxters and, i think, caymans does the spoiler/wing/whatever rise on a block of metal about as aerodynamic as a brick?
That's not how aerodynamics works. They are there specifically to change the airflow, so the 'block' is part of the design.t load of drag. Sorry but with my limited knowledge of aerodynamics etc. i'd tend to think if it doesn't look right it probably doesn't work properlySometimes it's better to read a book and understand something than to poke at it with a stick and say it's wrong.
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