The Best ///M/Barge/General Rant/Look at this/O/T(Vol XVIII)
Discussion
Output Flange said:
Since no-one asked:
F1
F40
918
288 GTO
Panda 100HP
F50
Panda 100hp F1
F40
918
288 GTO
Panda 100HP
F50
1. F1 + LCC Rocket (back in the day many had to have both)
2. 288 GTO
3. 959
4. F40
4. F50
4. CGT
no real interest in Zonda's apart from the AMG donk, pretty much everything else is flappy paddles since then
Edited by Rocket. on Monday 8th January 14:36
ferrisbueller said:
Chris Stott said:
F40 is the king of that group for me. But I'd take a CGT over all of them... just fabulous machines.
At that point I throw the Zonda into the mix.Chris Stott said:
ferrisbueller said:
Chris Stott said:
F40 is the king of that group for me. But I'd take a CGT over all of them... just fabulous machines.
At that point I throw the Zonda into the mix.Great debate as always gents - excellent taste all, even if our order of merit may differ!
I think the CGT is lovely looking and beautifully engineered thing that would likely prove usable with acclimatization (including in terms of the risk of parking a sizeable chunk of your lifetime earnings on the street). It is not especially challenging or memorable to look at but for me captures the relatively understated elegance of a machine with focus. I think the 918 is similar (if fatter!). The Zonda C12 is nice enough but agin more for the promise of decent chassis plus multi-cylinder nasp donk. Still, nothing touches the older cars for pure lust in my book.
I find it hard to separate the 288 (which I think looks ace inside and out, despite the somewhat unfinished aesthetic) and the F40 (which I love as both a swansong for the Old Man and also as a simple facet of general automotive enthusiasm - its mean and fast and looks it). But I'd take the F50 ahead of both at a push due to nasp V12 and apparently forgiving chassis. In reality all are unpossible and outside of the digital representations, I have no idea what any of them are like other than to stand next to (ok, I snuck a cheeky-but-stationary seat in each at DKE over the years) All academic. I like the idea of the 288 with engine and chassis response from the F50 though :hehe
I also like the idea of a breathed on GTV6.
Or a nice 'Sud.
Or an R129 SL500.
And the 106.
Or...
You get the general gist
The thing that ruins all those supercars and the thing that elevates the F1 is luggage space.
I'm being serious! Hear me out...
When I discovered that the Carrera GT had no luggage space I was totally disappointed. The whole point of owning such a machine in my case is to use it as intended on the worlds finest driving roads. If I had the means I'd put aside 10 days or so each year to get the thing over into mainland Europe and really stretch it's legs.
Breakfast at Lake Lucerne and dinner in Gstaad. A pizza on the Bernadino Pass before cocktails in Monaco, that sort of thing.
I know you can "send the luggage ahead" but it totally ruins the spontaneity of the journey, the possibility of seeing a mountain pass in the distance and hunting for it on the map just to try and tackle it and maybe even find that little hotel at the top that does the quirky meatball dish you'll never be able to recreate back home.
The romance of the Eurohoon is like no other car experience and although I can tackle them in my humdrum machines if I could afford a supercar I'd want to use it for that. I'm emphatically not mistaking a supercar for a GT but in my book a supercar should be able to do both.
Thank god I'm too poor to be disappointed in a Carrera GT eh?
I'm being serious! Hear me out...
When I discovered that the Carrera GT had no luggage space I was totally disappointed. The whole point of owning such a machine in my case is to use it as intended on the worlds finest driving roads. If I had the means I'd put aside 10 days or so each year to get the thing over into mainland Europe and really stretch it's legs.
Breakfast at Lake Lucerne and dinner in Gstaad. A pizza on the Bernadino Pass before cocktails in Monaco, that sort of thing.
I know you can "send the luggage ahead" but it totally ruins the spontaneity of the journey, the possibility of seeing a mountain pass in the distance and hunting for it on the map just to try and tackle it and maybe even find that little hotel at the top that does the quirky meatball dish you'll never be able to recreate back home.
The romance of the Eurohoon is like no other car experience and although I can tackle them in my humdrum machines if I could afford a supercar I'd want to use it for that. I'm emphatically not mistaking a supercar for a GT but in my book a supercar should be able to do both.
Thank god I'm too poor to be disappointed in a Carrera GT eh?
LaurasOtherHalf said:
The thing that ruins all those supercars and the thing that elevates the F1 is luggage space.
I'm being serious! Hear me out...
When I discovered that the Carrera GT had no luggage space I was totally disappointed. The whole point of owning such a machine in my case is to use it as intended on the worlds finest driving roads. If I had the means I'd put aside 10 days or so each year to get the thing over into mainland Europe and really stretch it's legs.
Breakfast at Lake Lucerne and dinner in Gstaad. A pizza on the Bernadino Pass before cocktails in Monaco, that sort of thing.
I know you can "send the luggage ahead" but it totally ruins the spontaneity of the journey, the possibility of seeing a mountain pass in the distance and hunting for it on the map just to try and tackle it and maybe even find that little hotel at the top that does the quirky meatball dish you'll never be able to recreate back home.
The romance of the Eurohoon is like no other car experience and although I can tackle them in my humdrum machines if I could afford a supercar I'd want to use it for that. I'm emphatically not mistaking a supercar for a GT but in my book a supercar should be able to do both.
Thank god I'm too poor to be disappointed in a Carrera GT eh?
There's a bit luggage space in a CGT. Maybe not enough for the wifes shoe collection, but enough for a chap travelling light to enjoy some days on the open road, with a change in to something smarter for Michelin starred dinners... Porsche even sell (sold) a luggage set for it...I'm being serious! Hear me out...
When I discovered that the Carrera GT had no luggage space I was totally disappointed. The whole point of owning such a machine in my case is to use it as intended on the worlds finest driving roads. If I had the means I'd put aside 10 days or so each year to get the thing over into mainland Europe and really stretch it's legs.
Breakfast at Lake Lucerne and dinner in Gstaad. A pizza on the Bernadino Pass before cocktails in Monaco, that sort of thing.
I know you can "send the luggage ahead" but it totally ruins the spontaneity of the journey, the possibility of seeing a mountain pass in the distance and hunting for it on the map just to try and tackle it and maybe even find that little hotel at the top that does the quirky meatball dish you'll never be able to recreate back home.
The romance of the Eurohoon is like no other car experience and although I can tackle them in my humdrum machines if I could afford a supercar I'd want to use it for that. I'm emphatically not mistaking a supercar for a GT but in my book a supercar should be able to do both.
Thank god I'm too poor to be disappointed in a Carrera GT eh?
I'd have to agree with this sentiment.
The wife and I got engaged at the start of a 2 week road trip around Italy in the 355 and it was utterly magical.
Also, thank f**k she said yes or could have made for an awkward holiday....
That aside, you get the gist. Having no real luggage space at all would be a killer, not the price obvs (as we are all powerfully built company directors etc).
The wife and I got engaged at the start of a 2 week road trip around Italy in the 355 and it was utterly magical.
Also, thank f**k she said yes or could have made for an awkward holiday....
That aside, you get the gist. Having no real luggage space at all would be a killer, not the price obvs (as we are all powerfully built company directors etc).
Or leave the Mrs at home and use the pass seat and footwell for luggage. Mine would be constantly telling me to slow down anyway....
I'm fairly sure if you can afford £600K+ you can fly her out if your heart desires, or alternatively if it's your thing live by James Hunts moto 'If floats, flies or f****, rent it'
I'm fairly sure if you can afford £600K+ you can fly her out if your heart desires, or alternatively if it's your thing live by James Hunts moto 'If floats, flies or f****, rent it'
minimoog said:
Yes
Obscene.
LoH / others - agreed re. usability. It's not a car if you can't make trips in it. I get the whole "go for a drive on a xday morning / afternoon / evening" but I too long for the opportunity to hit the road for days or even weeks at a time. Sure, as discerning and independently wealthy road-tripper you could beg / borrow /hire a running mate to escort you in a fast support car (RS6 / AMG / Alpina etc. - choose your comanion(s) accordingly) should you really be doing Paris to Tokyo or whatever, but a little bit of usable luggage wouldn't go unappreciated. You might as well get a bike and backpack otherwise (nowt wrong with bikes but not my thing other than to ogle).
The McBimmer F1 is a great example of a no-limits road car concept - you can go solo or with a mate and a spare. Plus that engine ins most contests for sound and fury going imho
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