Parking in a disabled space when a car park is full
Discussion
Stay in Bed Instead said:
Non disabled people should not use the disabled bays when it is likely that a disabled person would do so.
The problem with that is that, as it's been said, people assume disabled people don't go out after dark, and generally in their favour. I'm pretty sure if I went to the gym now no spaces would be available. Quite a long thread but no mention of whether providers should be passive or proactive to ensure their accessibility obligations are met.
Sticks. said:
Quite a long thread but no mention of whether providers should be passive or proactive to ensure their accessibility obligations are met.
I took this up with a Tesco Extra near me a while back as P&C spaces were being used by people who shouldn't have been using them. I challenged a few myself and unsurprisingly, given they were the sort of people to park in spaces they shouldn't be in, I got a fair amount of abuse ("I hope you get cancer in your balls", was one of the more memorable ripostes).The Tesco manager told me that they didn't challenge people any more as a couple of their security people had been physically attacked by the sorts of people who park in spaces they shouldn't be in.
I expect the parents at my local school who park on the yellow zigzags also think it's OK to park in supermarket spaces they shouldn't be in. Probably also the types who don't bother picking up after their dogs if no one is watching.
As someone said before, it's a moral compass thing. As with many things, ask yourself, "what would happen if everybody did it?"
Double Fault said:
Sticks. said:
As someone said before, it's a moral compass thing. As with many things, ask yourself, "what would happen if everybody did it?"
That's very profound. I shall be worrying about the implications of what you've said endlessly now. Right now I'm fixated on what would happen if everyone flushed their toilet at the same time.Double Fault said:
As someone said before, it's a moral compass thing.
Someone on the internet said that? On this car forum? Clearly the benchmark for philosophy in ethics.Double Fault said:
As with many things, ask yourself, "what would happen if everybody did it?"
Well, because there wouldn't be enough spaces for everyone I imagine it would be chaos. Fighting (amongst the able-bodied. Is that discriminatory?), state of emergency declared etc etcWrithing said:
Not sure if its been mentioned as I can’t be bothered to look back at all the pages of people arguing, but, can I get a ruling on using a disabled loo?
Are they toilets adapted for disabled usage or are they solely for the use of disabled people?
Are you desperate to go?Are they toilets adapted for disabled usage or are they solely for the use of disabled people?
If not, just look back.
Writhing said:
Not sure if its been mentioned as I can’t be bothered to look back at all the pages of people arguing, but, can I get a ruling on using a disabled loo?
Are they toilets adapted for disabled usage or are they solely for the use of disabled people?
Many of them have a radar key specifically to prevent you from using them. Are they toilets adapted for disabled usage or are they solely for the use of disabled people?
blueg33 said:
Writhing said:
Not sure if its been mentioned as I can’t be bothered to look back at all the pages of people arguing, but, can I get a ruling on using a disabled loo?
Are they toilets adapted for disabled usage or are they solely for the use of disabled people?
Many of them have a radar key specifically to prevent you from using them. Are they toilets adapted for disabled usage or are they solely for the use of disabled people?
Christ that's done it now.
Sticks. said:
As someone said before, it's a moral compass thing. As with many things, ask yourself, "what would happen if everybody did it?"
That's very profound. I shall be worrying about the implications of what you've said endlessly now. Right now I'm fixated on what would happen if everyone flushed their toilet at the same time.As someone whose asked both neighbours in my row of cottages to flush their bogs to help me to work out which pipe goes where whilst hanging head first in an inspection pit trying to rod a partial blockage in a 200 year old drain I'm here to tell you you don't really want to know the answer to that...
These days, disabled folks are more active. Possibly due to the reactions of the ( almost feral parents )reaction to misuse of parent's spaces. Today, I found a builder pickup parked badly, in a disabled bay. The car next to him would have had problems accessing the rear of the car. So I had no problems asking the store folks to sort it out. Builder boy took it badly. He decided that the store one way system did not apply and then tried to bully his way out of the park, trying to force cars to get out of his way. Nice to see that all cars stood firm, and bully boy had to accept defeat and get in the queue.
otolith said:
And a family hatchback would fit in a normal sized space.
I’m afraid this isn’t true. Both my wife’s Auris and my Discovery easily fit in a p&c space with sufficient room to get our child in and out. The Auris does not fit in a normal space with sufficient space to get her in and out. The Disco, which is not a small car, is easier to use in a normal space without the child than the Auris is with a child in. Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff