The Joy of Running an Old Shed

The Joy of Running an Old Shed

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CDP

7,465 posts

255 months

Tuesday 18th August 2020
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covmutley said:
grantone said:
Any reason not to get this 2004 / 126k one with reasonable MOT history at £1500?

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202007030...
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I got an 04 manual petrol crv last month. 146k miles with loads of history for £1600.

I am getting strangely attached to it! Kids hate it because I had a much fancier car before but even they admit they like sitting in the back. The rear seats are jacked up a bit and windows are massive, so they get a great a view out.

I also like that its spacious inside but quite narrow to thread down the lanes where I live. Where it ends inside is pretty much where it ends on the outside. Of course, these particular features make it less safe i guess!

Its a Petrol engined Honda. Surely got to be a decent bet?



Edited by covmutley on Tuesday 18th August 20:28
While I’d prefer a saloon or estate the road near here has been out for most of the year so it’s a long diversion or farm tracks. These are impassable when wet as the mud is super slippery (a Range Rover got stuck a copy of weeks ago) thinking the RAV4 might be a better option than the Honda but it’s really down to ground clearance and tyres. What is the Honda like in this respect? Does it have any form of brake based traction control or will it spin it’s wheels?



Captain Answer

1,355 posts

188 months

Tuesday 18th August 2020
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Aiminghigh123 said:
Never quite got the idea of 3 in front and 3 in back.. just a bit odd,

gman88667733

1,192 posts

68 months

Tuesday 18th August 2020
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CDP said:
covmutley said:
grantone said:
Any reason not to get this 2004 / 126k one with reasonable MOT history at £1500?

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202007030...
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I got an 04 manual petrol crv last month. 146k miles with loads of history for £1600.

I am getting strangely attached to it! Kids hate it because I had a much fancier car before but even they admit they like sitting in the back. The rear seats are jacked up a bit and windows are massive, so they get a great a view out.

I also like that its spacious inside but quite narrow to thread down the lanes where I live. Where it ends inside is pretty much where it ends on the outside. Of course, these particular features make it less safe i guess!

Its a Petrol engined Honda. Surely got to be a decent bet?



Edited by covmutley on Tuesday 18th August 20:28
While I’d prefer a saloon or estate the road near here has been out for most of the year so it’s a long diversion or farm tracks. These are impassable when wet as the mud is super slippery (a Range Rover got stuck a copy of weeks ago) thinking the RAV4 might be a better option than the Honda but it’s really down to ground clearance and tyres. What is the Honda like in this respect? Does it have any form of brake based traction control or will it spin it’s wheels?
The rear doesn't kick in until the fronts slip I believe... I personally have never had an issue with the 4wd system in mine. I've given some reasonably good tests, very wet grass on a steep incline and no issues.
Ground clearance is so-so. Good for most of the car, but the fuel tank sits quite low in a cage, which is annoying.
With decent tyres, they are supposed to be very capable off road.

Aiminghigh123

2,720 posts

70 months

Tuesday 18th August 2020
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martin mrt said:
I picked up my latest shed a few weeks back, unseen and on the island of Orkney. My wife is from there so I tied collection in with a visit

Mk4 GT TDi 130bhp, loads and loads of history, 150k, 6 months MOT, needed rear wheel bearings and a brake pedal switch. Completely standard, bar a tow bar which was used for shifting a small boat

All this for £300

My mate is using it at the moment but I intend to press it into daily service in October

That sounds like a great bargain. If I end up with a long distance commute again this is what I will be looking out for.

CDP

7,465 posts

255 months

Tuesday 18th August 2020
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gman88667733 said:
CDP said:
covmutley said:
grantone said:
Any reason not to get this 2004 / 126k one with reasonable MOT history at £1500?

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202007030...
.
I got an 04 manual petrol crv last month. 146k miles with loads of history for £1600.

I am getting strangely attached to it! Kids hate it because I had a much fancier car before but even they admit they like sitting in the back. The rear seats are jacked up a bit and windows are massive, so they get a great a view out.

I also like that its spacious inside but quite narrow to thread down the lanes where I live. Where it ends inside is pretty much where it ends on the outside. Of course, these particular features make it less safe i guess!

Its a Petrol engined Honda. Surely got to be a decent bet?



Edited by covmutley on Tuesday 18th August 20:28
While I’d prefer a saloon or estate the road near here has been out for most of the year so it’s a long diversion or farm tracks. These are impassable when wet as the mud is super slippery (a Range Rover got stuck a copy of weeks ago) thinking the RAV4 might be a better option than the Honda but it’s really down to ground clearance and tyres. What is the Honda like in this respect? Does it have any form of brake based traction control or will it spin it’s wheels?
The rear doesn't kick in until the fronts slip I believe... I personally have never had an issue with the 4wd system in mine. I've given some reasonably good tests, very wet grass on a steep incline and no issues.
Ground clearance is so-so. Good for most of the car, but the fuel tank sits quite low in a cage, which is annoying.
With decent tyres, they are supposed to be very capable off road.
Thanks, I have a five year old so the decent view would be very good for him. The windows at the back of the A4 are a little too high.

I'm very tempted by a Lexus RV Hybrid at a higher cost but guessing there's a fairly big borkage factor on them where as the CRV and RAV4 are relatively safe bets.

The Lexus is an upscaled Pious though and they are meant to be pretty reliable.

gman88667733

1,192 posts

68 months

Wednesday 19th August 2020
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CDP said:
Thanks, I have a five year old so the decent view would be very good for him. The windows at the back of the A4 are a little too high.

I'm very tempted by a Lexus RV Hybrid at a higher cost but guessing there's a fairly big borkage factor on them where as the CRV and RAV4 are relatively safe bets.

The Lexus is an upscaled Pious though and they are meant to be pretty reliable.
The petrol CRV's certainly are a safe bet. I'd happily take a punt on any with under 200k miles on, assuming it hasn't got any obvious issues. I think the auto suits the car better, but that is at a cost of about 4-5mpg in mixed driving. Worth it IMO.
Later 5sp auto's (2005/2006) weren't as robust as the earlier 4sp, still fine though, just not as bulletproof as the earlier one.

Bumblebee7

1,527 posts

76 months

Wednesday 19th August 2020
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Aiminghigh123 said:
I don't like that particular car as it's a Cat C but what a great suggestion! Been looking at cars for my mum and this could be a great option, they seem undesirable so pricing is low with all the reliability you'd expect from a Honda.

Captain Answer

1,355 posts

188 months

Wednesday 19th August 2020
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When did everyone unilaterally decide shed budget was £1500 btw?

Shed territory is strictly under a grand for me, pefferably under £500 if its a proper shed

Must be some other people tighter than a ducks arse in this thread?? biggrinbiggrin

Horsey McHorseface

2,541 posts

185 months

Wednesday 19th August 2020
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gman88667733 said:
The petrol CRV's certainly are a safe bet. I'd happily take a punt on any with under 200k miles on, assuming it hasn't got any obvious issues. I think the auto suits the car better, but that is at a cost of about 4-5mpg in mixed driving. Worth it IMO.
Later 5sp auto's (2005/2006) weren't as robust as the earlier 4sp, still fine though, just not as bulletproof as the earlier one.
The 05/06 MK2 CR-V came with a 5 speed auto? Doesn't state that on Parkers. The 5 spd came in with the MK3, according to Parkers, that was 2007-on.

v15ben

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15,814 posts

242 months

Wednesday 19th August 2020
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Captain Answer said:
When did everyone unilaterally decide shed budget was £1500 btw?
These are the criteria on another forum I use, which seem about right:

£1000 - £1999 = Luxury-Shedding.
£500 - £999 = Shedding.
£100 - £499 = Mega-Shedding.
Free - £99 = God-Like-Shedding.

My current car is a 'luxury-shedding' £1500 purchase, but I have had a few under £500 in the past.
I'm sure plenty on the thread are in God-Like territory with their sheds. hehe

grantone

640 posts

174 months

Wednesday 19th August 2020
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Well, one reason not to buy that CRV is that it sold to someone else halfway through the dealer sending me some videos on WhatsApp!

I love the 6 seat FRV, the 3 individual seats work well for car seats, but the boot is too small for a double pushchair. Twins as your second child is a curve ball.

I also had an RX400h as a non-shed choice, I could easily get lucky and have no problems, but they don't seem to be easy to sell on.

TheInsanity1234

740 posts

120 months

Wednesday 19th August 2020
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Captain Answer said:
When did everyone unilaterally decide shed budget was £1500 btw?

Shed territory is strictly under a grand for me, pefferably under £500 if its a proper shed

Must be some other people tighter than a ducks arse in this thread?? biggrinbiggrin
I'm pretty sure it happened when SOTW upped the budget to £1,500. I seem to remember it being £1k when I joined up and then there was some discussion somewhere where the SOTW writer decided to up the budget to £1,500 as it allowed for 'inflation' and also allowed a few more 'interesting' cars to fall into the budget.

Complete hearsay though, don't take my words as gospel!

Captain Answer

1,355 posts

188 months

Wednesday 19th August 2020
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grantone said:
Well, one reason not to buy that CRV is that it sold to someone else halfway through the dealer sending me some videos on WhatsApp!

I love the 6 seat FRV, the 3 individual seats work well for car seats, but the boot is too small for a double pushchair. Twins as your second child is a curve ball.

I also had an RX400h as a non-shed choice, I could easily get lucky and have no problems, but they don't seem to be easy to sell on.
Bet there aren't many that are to be fair and still have 2 adults in front and 3x kids seats?

Probably have to get a proper sized 7 seater MPV like a Renault Grand Scenic or Chrysler Grand Voyager?

Would manage it in a Volvo XC90, put 2x right hand side back seats up and right hand third row seat and you've have a big space to the left for the buggy etc etc, my 9 & 10 year old like being in the very back of the XC90, its my mums but I drive it a fair bit

Edited by Captain Answer on Wednesday 19th August 13:12

slk 32

1,491 posts

194 months

Wednesday 19th August 2020
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giblet said:
Captain Answer said:
Whats the band on the newer ones? My 2000 plate Aero is just over £250
£555 last year!
Apart from the spurious excuse of encouraging people to trade up to newer less polluting models it seems crazy that we have a VED system in place that actively discourages people from buying perfectly good cars because the VED rate can be more than the car itself?.

Most emissions are produced as the car is manufactured.

Why can these not be reduced by 50% after 10 years to avoid scrapping vehicles that would otherwise have years left in them?.

Or even add VED to fuel, meaning you only pay for what you use?

gman88667733

1,192 posts

68 months

Wednesday 19th August 2020
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Horsey McHorseface said:
The 05/06 MK2 CR-V came with a 5 speed auto? Doesn't state that on Parkers. The 5 spd came in with the MK3, according to Parkers, that was 2007-on.
It definitely did in the States. Perhaps it didn't make it over here? Plenty documented about it on US cars.

gman88667733

1,192 posts

68 months

Wednesday 19th August 2020
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grantone said:
Well, one reason not to buy that CRV is that it sold to someone else halfway through the dealer sending me some videos on WhatsApp!

I love the 6 seat FRV, the 3 individual seats work well for car seats, but the boot is too small for a double pushchair. Twins as your second child is a curve ball.

I also had an RX400h as a non-shed choice, I could easily get lucky and have no problems, but they don't seem to be easy to sell on.
Well that is a shame! Plenty around though.

giblet

8,878 posts

178 months

Wednesday 19th August 2020
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v15ben said:
These are the criteria on another forum I use, which seem about right:

£1000 - £1999 = Luxury-Shedding.
£500 - £999 = Shedding.
£100 - £499 = Mega-Shedding.
Free - £99 = God-Like-Shedding.

My current car is a 'luxury-shedding' £1500 purchase, but I have had a few under £500 in the past.
I'm sure plenty on the thread are in God-Like territory with their sheds. hehe
Been a long time since I had a sub £500 shed. Fond memories of some BB1 Preludes I owned that fell into that category. Both had the 197bhp JDM H22 engine too. Best thing was how the first one had some rare JDM aftermarket spats that I sold for almost the same price I bought the car for! I moved to the luxury shedding category as I wanted some semi modern features like HID lights and heated seats and some sense of reliability for the occasional longer journey.

slk 32 said:
Apart from the spurious excuse of encouraging people to trade up to newer less polluting models it seems crazy that we have a VED system in place that actively discourages people from buying perfectly good cars because the VED rate can be more than the car itself?.

Most emissions are produced as the car is manufactured.

Why can these not be reduced by 50% after 10 years to avoid scrapping vehicles that would otherwise have years left in them?.

Or even add VED to fuel, meaning you only pay for what you use?
Adding it to fuel would make so much more sense to me. I never did that many miles to begin with, around 6-8k a year but that’s dropped even lower now so the idea of paying over £550 every 12 months in VED annoys me significantly. This November will be the third time I will be taxing the car, if I keep it for another 2 years I’ll have spent more than the purchase price on VED alone.

Bumblebee7

1,527 posts

76 months

Wednesday 19th August 2020
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giblet said:
Adding it to fuel would make so much more sense to me. I never did that many miles to begin with, around 6-8k a year but that’s dropped even lower now so the idea of paying over £550 every 12 months in VED annoys me significantly. This November will be the third time I will be taxing the car, if I keep it for another 2 years I’ll have spent more than the purchase price on VED alone.
My MX5 cost £269, the VED is £330 a year redface

Hansel911

5 posts

46 months

Wednesday 19th August 2020
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Hi all,

New to the forums (first post!) but been a lurker for a couple of weeks now.

Couldn't believe it when I saw this thread, it is exactly my thought process! Having driven sheds or hand-me-downs that I have run into the ground for years I finally took the plunge and bought an expensive car last year... What a mistake! Thought it was my dream car (2014 Passat alltrack, I don't dream very big I guess) and a keeper... Now I just want to get back to a shed that I don't have to worry about scratching on narrow lanes etc etc.

Anyway, just saying hi, enjoying reading about your shedding!

TheInsanity1234

740 posts

120 months

Wednesday 19th August 2020
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slk 32 said:
Or even add VED to fuel, meaning you only pay for what you use?
I have ALWAYS thought this would be a much fairer system. I find it bizarre that I can have a 2010 Picanto which only costs £30 per year in tax even if I do 15k miles in it and pump out all the emissions doing 15k miles, but that the Clio I'm about to buy is £150 per year to tax even though I may well find myself doing 3k miles in it and producing considerably less emissions than my previous car!

It's just instantly a much fairer system if we cancelled the VED system and increased the fuel duty. Currently our duty is about 58p per litre. VED supposedly was forecast to raise ~£6.5b in 19/20.

We, in the UK, consumed a combined amount of ~47b litres of fuel (petrol and diesel) in 2019.

Dividing £6.5b by 47b litres of fuel works out to about 13p per litre. I'd have no problem paying 70p per litre of fuel in fuel duty, would mean the amount of tax I'm paying on emissions is proportionate to how much fuel my car actually uses. This would have a far more positive effect on encouraging people to buy more environmentally friendly cars if they do mega miles, but also wouldn't punitively punish those who have cars with high emissions that only do about 600 miles per year!

I suspect, however, that increasing fuel duty, even by 10-15p per litre would actually bring in MORE money than the current VED system does, as I don't do many miles per year but they're all urban so my consumption figures are terrible, and I suspect the same is true for most urban drivers who have very small, supposedly eco friendly cheap to tax cars that guzzle fuel almost as fast as a 3 litre V8 around town! Plus would also mean the DVLA can just shut down an entire sector of their operations, which frankly would streamline it much better than all the previous attempts, and save the government more money in bureaucracy costs.
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