The "S**t Driving Caught On Cam" Thread (Vol 5)

The "S**t Driving Caught On Cam" Thread (Vol 5)

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OllieJolly

348 posts

118 months

Friday 26th February 2021
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westtra said:
UK Road Rage 2020 | Bad Drivers, Car Crash, Brake Check, Driving Fails, Instant Karma HGV Lorry 2021

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQT9RsJyqfU
Some of the dash cam owner comments and actions are a joke.
My 100% expert, professional, powerfully-built opinion on these:

1. Ridiculous driving, no excuse for that. Ban
2. Poor planning from the van driver, but worse driving from the Focus. 3 points.
3. Slow down/stop, let them perform their manoeuvre. No need for horn, or language. Not surprised they flicked the V's. 3 points.
4. You're in that much of a rush you can't slow down when someone pulls out, yet you're not in that much of a rush to follow them home like a psycho. Ban
5. Avoidable, although somewhat understandable. Does look like a suspicious crash. Still avoidable though.
6. Loss of control = 2x incident points. Blame the council for not mending the roads.
7. Driver was court. Whatever that means.
8. Slow down a bit then.
9. A-pillar blindspot? Dangerous but avoided. Blame the council for not enough street lighting.
10. I think the cam driver was worse than the Ranger here... 3 points to the Ranger, ban for the camera. Sorry. I don't make the rules.
11. Stupid from the Golf, but no need for the horn. 3 points.
12. 3 points for the completely avoidable collision, 3 points for whatever that comment says, -3 points for damaging a Juke. Ban for having a Juke though.
13. Air pressure from use of the horn would have prevented the Citroen from sliding into you, that's just physics. 3 points.
14. Someone indicating doesn't stop them from reversing into you. Decent reaction to reverse though, so you've avoided a full ban and I'll be kind and just give you 3 points.
15. stting Peugeot.
16. "Woah" we're going to Ibiza? 3 points for using the horn.
17. Blame the council for that. Somehow. Whatever.
18. 3 points for parking at night facing oncoming traffic, 3 points for having cones out.

Overall, the council is to blame for the majority of these.

TinyMonster

171 posts

40 months

Friday 26th February 2021
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Dashnine said:
How is my journey quicker when you’ve jumped the queue and taken my slot?
How do you feel about people overtaking you?

Dashnine

1,357 posts

52 months

Friday 26th February 2021
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Dashnine said:
Krikkit said:
Dashnine said:
saaby93 said:
Why cant people just take their turn and wait behind stuff instead of overtaking, pushing in front,
Does my head in this, (push) bikes maybe not so much unless it's then difficult to get past them again but motorbikes should wait, especially when they then pull in front of you, it's not like they can turn into a significantly smaller gap than a car.
Why? I can filter to the front then bugger off out your way. Everything except a 125 will out-accelerate a car from the lights anyway. Then rinse and repeat - my journey is quicker, yours is quicker too.
How is my journey quicker when you’ve jumped the queue and taken my slot?
And also while I’m on it, a big bike can’t do a 90 degree right turn into a road and accelerate faster than my 240bhp and four wheel drive, the bike just doesn’t have the grip, skill or nerve.

TinyMonster

171 posts

40 months

Friday 26th February 2021
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To be fair, the bike will have arrived at the corner about 17 minutes before you have, so it's not a big issue really.

Dashnine

1,357 posts

52 months

Friday 26th February 2021
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TinyMonster said:
To be fair, the bike will have arrived at the corner about 17 minutes before you have, so it's not a big issue really.
Don’t think you get the point, a queue of 6 cars waiting to turn right, the bike arrives as 7th vehicle, wiggles down the outside on wrong side of road against oncoming traffic, waits for car at front of queue to turn right, then pulls into vacant space blocking car 2 moving forward. Then takes car twos slot in traffic, pushing everyone back one slot, then another bike appears....

Or the bike goes down the near side if there’s space or an empty left turn / straight one lane, pulls up at front blocking view to the left of the first car and pulls out across the front of the first car.

It’s just selfish.

Edited by Dashnine on Friday 26th February 16:55

Bonefish Blues

27,395 posts

225 months

Friday 26th February 2021
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Especially on the Isle of Man hehe

OllieJolly

348 posts

118 months

Friday 26th February 2021
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Dashnine said:
Don’t think you get the point, a queue of 6 cars waiting to turn right, the bike arrives as 7th vehicle, wiggles down the outside on wrong side of road against oncoming traffic, waits for car at front of queue to turn right, then pulls into vacant space blocking car 2 moving forward. Then takes car twos slot in traffic, pushing everyone back one slot, then another bike appears....

Or the bike goes down the near side if there’s space or an empty left turn / straight one lane, pulls up at front blocking view to the left of the first car and pulls out across the front of the first car.

It’s just selfish.

Edited by Dashnine on Friday 26th February 16:55
I think this is the same sort of thing that people get annoyed about when merging from 2 lanes to 1, and situations like that.
The road isn't really a queue in that respect. The time you "lose" by having to pull away a few seconds later than you otherwise would have is negligible in the scheme of things.



ChocolateFrog

26,134 posts

175 months

Friday 26th February 2021
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saaby93 said:
Ron240 said:
Krikkit said:
Dashnine said:
saaby93 said:
Why cant people just take their turn and wait behind stuff instead of overtaking, pushing in front,
Does my head in this, (push) bikes maybe not so much unless it's then difficult to get past them again but motorbikes should wait, especially when they then pull in front of you, it's not like they can turn into a significantly smaller gap than a car.
Why? I can filter to the front then bugger off out your way. Everything except a 125 will out-accelerate a car from the lights anyway. Then rinse and repeat - my journey is quicker, yours is quicker too.
Exactly!
People who complain about motorbikes filtering are usually the ones who have/are the problem.
Its been many years since I had sportsbikes and most car drivers were great, but occasionally I came up against complete dheads who would go out of their way to make it difficult for me to pass.
The thing is once I am past then I am gone and chances are you are not going to see me again.
Why not save any aggro, relax a bit and wait in turn?
There's very little aggro, and any aggro there is soon evaporates when you're at the front of the queue laugh

I'd never sit in a line of traffic on my bike or motorbike, mainly because I don't have to but also because sitting 6 feet from someone's exhaust for minutes on end ain't much fun.

Edited by ChocolateFrog on Friday 26th February 17:46

Dashnine

1,357 posts

52 months

Friday 26th February 2021
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OllieJolly said:
Dashnine said:
Don’t think you get the point, a queue of 6 cars waiting to turn right, the bike arrives as 7th vehicle, wiggles down the outside on wrong side of road against oncoming traffic, waits for car at front of queue to turn right, then pulls into vacant space blocking car 2 moving forward. Then takes car twos slot in traffic, pushing everyone back one slot, then another bike appears....

Or the bike goes down the near side if there’s space or an empty left turn / straight one lane, pulls up at front blocking view to the left of the first car and pulls out across the front of the first car.

It’s just selfish.

Edited by Dashnine on Friday 26th February 16:55
I think this is the same sort of thing that people get annoyed about when merging from 2 lanes to 1, and situations like that.
The road isn't really a queue in that respect. The time you "lose" by having to pull away a few seconds later than you otherwise would have is negligible in the scheme of things.
The whole reason there’s a queue is that the road you’re joining is busy, otherwise there’s no queue. So I can be waiting while 10, 20, however many cars go by when the bikes long gone having jumped the queue and pushed in.

Is this what they teach on advancing bike riding courses?

saaby93

32,038 posts

180 months

Friday 26th February 2021
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westtra said:
UK Road Rage 2020 | Bad Drivers, Car Crash, Brake Check, Driving Fails, Instant Karma HGV Lorry 2021

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQT9RsJyqfU
Some of the dash cam owner comments and actions are a joke.
Take them all off the road? Maybe except the bus insurance scam

Edited by saaby93 on Friday 26th February 18:18

TinyMonster

171 posts

40 months

Friday 26th February 2021
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Dashnine said:
The whole reason there’s a queue is that the road you’re joining is busy
Busy for you. Not so much for the bikes smile

trackdemon

12,223 posts

263 months

Friday 26th February 2021
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Dashnine said:
advancing bike riding courses?
Say wot m8 rofl

Gweeds

7,954 posts

54 months

Friday 26th February 2021
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Filtering is a bonus of being on two wheels.

Always seemed to be that the bargain was:

In a car - warm, dry, safer, music etc. But you’ll often get there later.

Bike/motorbike - colder, wetter, much less safe but you’ll often get there more quickly.

Apparently some car drivers also want to get there faster as well. Entitled much?

Dashnine

1,357 posts

52 months

Friday 26th February 2021
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TinyMonster said:
Dashnine said:
The whole reason there’s a queue is that the road you’re joining is busy
Busy for you. Not so much for the bikes smile
So wait your turn? smile

LimSlip

800 posts

56 months

Friday 26th February 2021
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Dashnine said:
The whole reason there’s a queue is that the road you’re joining is busy, otherwise there’s no queue. So I can be waiting while 10, 20, however many cars go by when the bikes long gone having jumped the queue and pushed in.

Is this what they teach on advancing bike riding courses?
You've got quite a bee on your bonnet son, chill out and maybe try riding a bike this summer and see the advantages (and disadvantages). Unless it's someone futzing about on a 50cc scooter they aren't likely to be holding you up.

donkmeister

8,439 posts

102 months

Friday 26th February 2021
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Ron240 said:
Krikkit said:
Dashnine said:
saaby93 said:
Why cant people just take their turn and wait behind stuff instead of overtaking, pushing in front,
Does my head in this, (push) bikes maybe not so much unless it's then difficult to get past them again but motorbikes should wait, especially when they then pull in front of you, it's not like they can turn into a significantly smaller gap than a car.
Why? I can filter to the front then bugger off out your way. Everything except a 125 will out-accelerate a car from the lights anyway. Then rinse and repeat - my journey is quicker, yours is quicker too.
Exactly!
People who complain about motorbikes filtering are usually the ones who have/are the problem.
Its been many years since I had sportsbikes and most car drivers were great, but occasionally I came up against complete dheads who would go out of their way to make it difficult for me to pass.
The thing is once I am past then I am gone and chances are you are not going to see me again.
I used to ride a 125cc in central London mostly at rush hours and to a lesser extent the suburbs at nights and weekends; the number of people who were deliberately obstructive gits was so small as to barely register, and where there were multiple lanes their impact was quite often mitigated by someone in the next lane making additional room. Since becoming exclusively four-wheeled, on the few occasions I've noticed a car in the lane next to me try to block a bike I'll make room whenever I can...

Even a 125 will out-accelerate most cars in typical city usage. On my old 125, 0-60mph took 8-9 seconds, which is faster than most people would accelerate away from lights in a car when commuting in a city (obviously 0-20mph is probably more relevant but I never timed that!)

These days I'm out in the wilds of Hertfordshire, and on my commute a noticeable %age of the bikers who filter to the front at lights fanny about once the lights turn green and don't accelerate as fast as a car driver typically would (and I'm talking about 500, 600 and litre+ bikes), and I've had several times where a biker has filtered to a "two-lanes at every junction" roundabout and then turned left across the nose of someone in the left lane who is going straight on. It's not a problem with filtering as a concept, like most problems on the road it's a minority of selfish gits not considering that they share the roads.

donkmeister

8,439 posts

102 months

Friday 26th February 2021
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Today in Malaysia:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8kVjDbhKRg&t=...

My bro drove past shortly after and the car (looking a bit broken) was abandoned at the side of the road with 20 cops stood around it looking very serious... Local view is it's connected with either drug-manufacture or drug-dealing - they really don't like that sort of thing in Malaysia.

Dashnine

1,357 posts

52 months

Saturday 27th February 2021
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LimSlip said:
Dashnine said:
The whole reason there’s a queue is that the road you’re joining is busy, otherwise there’s no queue. So I can be waiting while 10, 20, however many cars go by when the bikes long gone having jumped the queue and pushed in.

Is this what they teach on advancing bike riding courses?
You've got quite a bee on your bonnet son, chill out and maybe try riding a bike this summer and see the advantages (and disadvantages). Unless it's someone futzing about on a 50cc scooter they aren't likely to be holding you up.
I still don’t think you bikers are even understanding what I’m on about, which is probably part of the problem.

OllieJolly

348 posts

118 months

Saturday 27th February 2021
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Dashnine said:
I still don’t think you bikers are even understanding what I’m on about, which is probably part of the problem.
I'm not a biker, and I understand what you mean, I just disagree.

The road isn't a queue, so there's no place, turn, etc.
You'd overtake a bus if it stopped briefly, or a car if it's driving slowly even though in all likelihood it'll catch you up at the next set of lights.

Unless you're doing incredibly short journeys, your journey time will average out regardless (for the most part) of what happens along the way.
One day you might get 3 bikers "jump" ahead at a turning, so you have to wait a minute longer.
The next day there isn't a biker in sight, but you get stuck behind a cyclist for 30 seconds and then get bad luck with red lights.

Let everyone get on with what they want to do, in my view. Obviously within reason, don't sit behind a tractor for 20 minutes.
You won't get to your destination much later, if at all, and you'll be a lot more relaxed when you get there.

Just my view.


0ddball

869 posts

141 months

Saturday 27th February 2021
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Dashnine said:
I still don’t think you bikers are even understanding what I’m on about, which is probably part of the problem.
There is no problem except for the one in your head. laugh

I suggest you get a dash cam and beep your horn a bit, that'll show 'em.

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