Nasty Ring accident today at Bergwerk

Nasty Ring accident today at Bergwerk

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C8PPO

19,650 posts

205 months

Wednesday 5th October 2011
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pjagger69 said:
It seems from reading through peoples experiences at the 'Ring, it's a real gamble with your life.

The kind of person who would drive it at speed is the kind of person who would attend an Ann Summers Party, with Amanda Knox at Michael Barrymore's house thinking "What could possibly go wrong?".

Knox and the 'Ring have one other thing in common, when you first see them you think you'd like to have a quick go, but when you analyze the risks, it is just better to watch videos of others doing it.
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LukeSi

5,753 posts

163 months

Wednesday 5th October 2011
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pjagger69 said:
It seems from reading through peoples experiences at the 'Ring, it's a real gamble with your life.

The kind of person who would drive it at speed is the kind of person who would attend an Ann Summers Party, with Amanda Knox at Michael Barrymore's house thinking "What could possibly go wrong?".

Knox and the 'Ring have one other thing in common, when you first see them you think you'd like to have a quick go, but when you analyze the risks, it is just better to watch videos of others doing it.
I'd still do it, and I don't mean the ring hehe

Debaser

6,130 posts

263 months

Wednesday 5th October 2011
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pjagger69 said:
when you analyze the risks, it is just better to watch videos of others doing it.
That's not the decision I made after doing my first tourist laps (back in the 90s). I absolutely love driving fast there and wanted to go back and do it again and again.

rlw

3,354 posts

239 months

Wednesday 5th October 2011
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fatboy18 said:
Here's an inboard lap in a Viper GTS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2R386dmu0IE

At 5.00 min into the lap you can see the clearing up of another accident! could even be at the same place?

Shame they cant have an electronic signaling system on the track like a green light around various sections, yellow for caution etc Or maybe they do? Ive never been there frown
If you go back from the accident the car clearly passes a flashing yellow light on a gantry - looked again, alright, its on a pole but you can't miss it at 4:37.


Edited by rlw on Wednesday 5th October 19:57

DonkeyApple

55,970 posts

171 months

Wednesday 5th October 2011
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LukeSi said:
I'd still do it, and I don't mean the ring hehe
You'd have a taxi waiting though.

Dagnut

3,515 posts

195 months

Wednesday 5th October 2011
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pjagger69 said:
It seems from reading through peoples experiences at the 'Ring, it's a real gamble with your life.

The kind of person who would drive it at speed is the kind of person who would attend an Ann Summers Party, with Amanda Knox at Michael Barrymore's house thinking "What could possibly go wrong?".

Knox and the 'Ring have one other thing in common, when you first see them you think you'd like to have a quick go, but when you analyze the risks, it is just better to watch videos of others doing it.
Post of the week...

agtlaw

6,762 posts

208 months

Wednesday 5th October 2011
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GC8 said:
The Megane appeared to be undamaged to me - it had stopped to help, I think. The Porsche was a 944 S2.
i was passenger in the 944. the undamaged megane was stationary in a quite stupid position and he's very very lucky that we didn't hit him.

sim16v

2,177 posts

203 months

Wednesday 5th October 2011
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There is too much doom and gloom about how busy the place is now.

This vid was taken 2 or 3 weeks earlier, around Sunday lunch time and look how quiet it was!


If you pick your days and times, you can still have fun out there.

Also, look at 2.20 and how much notice is given to "incidents" when the marshalls get it right!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEGvvFUxO9E

Rollcage

11,327 posts

194 months

Wednesday 5th October 2011
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agtlaw said:
i was passenger in the 944. the undamaged megane was stationary in a quite stupid position and he's very very lucky that we didn't hit him.
What was the camera car, out of interest?

agtlaw

6,762 posts

208 months

Wednesday 5th October 2011
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silver grey BMW e30. jump 1 minute into this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEygx_dzOoI

off_again

12,415 posts

236 months

Wednesday 5th October 2011
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A quick search on Youtube comes up with loads and loads of crashes at the Ring on Tourist day.... make me wonder if its getting a bit too dangerous?

fatboy18

18,967 posts

213 months

Wednesday 5th October 2011
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rlw said:
fatboy18 said:
Here's an inboard lap in a Viper GTS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2R386dmu0IE

At 5.00 min into the lap you can see the clearing up of another accident! could even be at the same place?

Shame they cant have an electronic signaling system on the track like a green light around various sections, yellow for caution etc Or maybe they do? Ive never been there frown
If you go back from the accident the car clearly passes a flashing yellow light on a gantry - looked again, alright, its on a pole but you can't miss it at 4:37.


Edited by rlw on Wednesday 5th October 19:57
Coor, good spot, not very big lights though, They could easily make those bigger.

sim16v

2,177 posts

203 months

Wednesday 5th October 2011
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fatboy18 said:
rlw said:
fatboy18 said:
Here's an inboard lap in a Viper GTS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2R386dmu0IE

At 5.00 min into the lap you can see the clearing up of another accident! could even be at the same place?

Shame they cant have an electronic signaling system on the track like a green light around various sections, yellow for caution etc Or maybe they do? Ive never been there frown
If you go back from the accident the car clearly passes a flashing yellow light on a gantry - looked again, alright, its on a pole but you can't miss it at 4:37.


Edited by rlw on Wednesday 5th October 19:57
Coor, good spot, not very big lights though, They could easily make those bigger.
Nice speeding up of the video frame rate as well.

Slowing down for two accidents, he's still as quick as Steffan Bellof on his record lap!eek

fatboy18

18,967 posts

213 months

Wednesday 5th October 2011
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sim16v said:
Nice speeding up of the video frame rate as well.

Slowing down for two accidents, he's still as quick as Steffan Bellof on his record lap!eek
rofl BUSTED wink Ade did it at 1,1/2 times speed for a bit of fun wink Good driving line though smile

KM666

1,757 posts

185 months

Wednesday 5th October 2011
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DonkeyApple said:
KM666 said:
Fastra said:
KM666 said:
What a suprise the brit who caused it was in a BMW.

Edited by KM666 on Monday 3rd October 17:43
Did he?
article on front page said:
Three cars were already slowing for this, when a fourth driver, apparently a Brit failed to spot the slowing cars and was unable to avoid a collision. He then hit the Armco, before coming back onto the track and hitting two more cars.
Which having seen plenty of people driving 3 series beyond their skill set comes as no suprise.

Having a UK numberplate I'm guessing thats the offending car.

Gran Turismo 5, Kaz'll be pleased you mistook it for reality though.
No i dont have any cars on the road, but neither does that BMW driver. I owned the transit, though it didnt spend much time driving.

Oooooh seems i've touched a nerve here lets just ignore what the plonker was driving (and that theres a fair few 3 series out there in plonkers hands in dire need of mechanical attention, rust seems to be common, saw a 330d at weekend that had its brake lines replaced as the previous set had rusted through, was told, 'oh all 3 series rust'-re bodywork, if brake lines rusting is a common fault id be very suprised) and hope hes driving a Saxo next time.

Edited by KM666 on Monday 3rd October 18:13


Edited by KM666 on Monday 3rd October 18:14
You seemed to have forgotten this one when deleting earlier posts. biggrin

Bellyj43 said:
I was unfortunate enough to witness the Ring Taxi crash at very close hand (about 8feet). As i came over the crest, the Corvette and M3 had stopped just before the crashed white 911. I just managed to brake and move left to avoid them and at that moment the Ring Taxi ploughed into the back of them both and cut across my nose!
Hopefully you won't show as much immature spite and biggotry when commenting in future and you have learned a little bit. Your comments were wholly dispicable and out of order.
I havn't deleted any of my posts??? And it was a BMW 3 series in both cases that caused the crashes, I just spotted the wrong BMW because that was the only picture i saw and the article said it was a UK car that caused the crash. I even said I guessed it was that car because of a UK numberplate???

So a 3 series being driven in a stupid way was what caused both crashes, just not that 3 series.


Edited by KM666 on Wednesday 5th October 22:41

NNNick

213 posts

221 months

Wednesday 5th October 2011
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sim16v said:
There is too much doom and gloom about how busy the place is now.

This vid was taken 2 or 3 weeks earlier, around Sunday lunch time and look how quiet it was!


If you pick your days and times, you can still have fun out there.

Also, look at 2.20 and how much notice is given to "incidents" when the marshalls get it right!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEGvvFUxO9E
Agree with this.

Worth remembering it was a public holiday in Germany, so there was a lot of people around to drive and watch. Plus there was a bit bike track day on at the F1 track.

The volume of traffic is a big factor in the danger for all the reasons stated throughout this thread.

Top tip, go on a day when everyone isn't off work.

GC8

19,910 posts

192 months

Wednesday 5th October 2011
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agtlaw said:
i was passenger in the 944. the undamaged megane was stationary in a quite stupid position and he's very very lucky that we didn't hit him.
Less than ideal yes. Whats the spec of the 944?

Stedman

7,234 posts

194 months

Thursday 6th October 2011
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Sorry in advance if these videos are reposts.

9mins50 in

Before the crash

Close call at 7mins50


LukeSi

5,753 posts

163 months

Thursday 6th October 2011
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Christ how stupid do you have to be to put a sodding great roadworks sign on the racing line through a 100mph+ corner. Surely common sense would say put it a good distance before the corner to give enough warning.

GC8

19,910 posts

192 months

Thursday 6th October 2011
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Plenty of people told them, I believe: they werent bothered.