Awkward design details on production cars
Discussion
After saying before in this thread that I like the Citroen Cactus, I've noticed this, and then I realised something.
The top window line not meeting up with the top of the windscreen. On the DS3 and new C3, they do meet up, and on those cars, a different coloured roof is an option. On the Cactus, it isn't an option, because they don't want you to notice they f
ked up the line from the windscreen to the side windows! The windscreen pillars and door frames are blacked out with matt paint/vinyl, they could just angle up the top of the blackout to meet the windscreen top edge to fix it.
And back to quarter light windows for this
Yes the picture is of a scale model but the real cars do the same. All the Smart ForTwos have the door glass the same way with the quarter light to clear the rear arch.
The top window line not meeting up with the top of the windscreen. On the DS3 and new C3, they do meet up, and on those cars, a different coloured roof is an option. On the Cactus, it isn't an option, because they don't want you to notice they f
ked up the line from the windscreen to the side windows! The windscreen pillars and door frames are blacked out with matt paint/vinyl, they could just angle up the top of the blackout to meet the windscreen top edge to fix it.And back to quarter light windows for this
Gatefold said:
Worse still, on this and the CLA; frameless doors... with a quarterlight. 
why.
How about this for frameless window quarterlights...why.
Yes the picture is of a scale model but the real cars do the same. All the Smart ForTwos have the door glass the same way with the quarter light to clear the rear arch.
768 said:
wilfandrowlf said:
Slightly TLDR, but has anybody thought the back end of the new Jeep Renegade looks like it's died!
I remember reading Viz a few years ago and when a character was dead it's eyes were represented by simple crosses....
I keep seeing these.I remember reading Viz a few years ago and when a character was dead it's eyes were represented by simple crosses....
Awful.
Brake lights on current TT.
Make a thin line joining the tail lights....
Make the brake lights within the tail lights a thin line...
...and then put at the bottom, not lining up with the middle!
They could have framed that line up the side and along top of tail lights, or the high brake light could have been along the edge of the boot above number plate!
Make a thin line joining the tail lights....
Make the brake lights within the tail lights a thin line...
...and then put at the bottom, not lining up with the middle!
They could have framed that line up the side and along top of tail lights, or the high brake light could have been along the edge of the boot above number plate!
dxg said:
768 said:
wilfandrowlf said:
Slightly TLDR, but has anybody thought the back end of the new Jeep Renegade looks like it's died!
I remember reading Viz a few years ago and when a character was dead it's eyes were represented by simple crosses....
I keep seeing these.I remember reading Viz a few years ago and when a character was dead it's eyes were represented by simple crosses....
Awful.
Several design issues come to mind, mostly engineering/cost led decisions by the look of them. This isn't an exhaustive list, just things I can think of at the moment:
Fuel filler flap on the Twingo 133 (ruins the wheelarch extension)
Similarly - Honda Civic Type R (FK8) rear wheelarch extension stops abruptly for the rear door to open (no extension panel, like Audi use on the A6 allroad). First of many design crimes on that car (base model wins extra points for huge blank panels that look like mesh but aren't).
Vauxhall Corsa - strange protrusion at the rear edge of the rear window that completely wrecks the profile of the glass from the side (both of the last two versions)
Land Rover Discovery 5 - clamshell bonnet side face stops abruptly at the mirror, the lower shutline is taken along the waist instead of the top of the bonnet. Also some versions the rear bumper has too many different silvers/greys/blacks going on at the bottom, all a bit of a mess.
Honda NSX (2017) door handles - daft push to grab design very similar to the Nissan GT-R - if you have something in one hand it's a real chore.
Alfa Romeo Giulia - lovely door cards, then a B-pillar panel that seems to have been designed by a different person with no access to the design of the door. To be fair, huge numbers of cars fail at continuity from front to rear door cards across the B-pillar.
Tesla Model S interior door 'handles' - sculpted grabs that are in the completely wrong place to give you any meaningful leverage to open the door.
Fuel filler flap on the Twingo 133 (ruins the wheelarch extension)
Similarly - Honda Civic Type R (FK8) rear wheelarch extension stops abruptly for the rear door to open (no extension panel, like Audi use on the A6 allroad). First of many design crimes on that car (base model wins extra points for huge blank panels that look like mesh but aren't).
Vauxhall Corsa - strange protrusion at the rear edge of the rear window that completely wrecks the profile of the glass from the side (both of the last two versions)
Land Rover Discovery 5 - clamshell bonnet side face stops abruptly at the mirror, the lower shutline is taken along the waist instead of the top of the bonnet. Also some versions the rear bumper has too many different silvers/greys/blacks going on at the bottom, all a bit of a mess.
Honda NSX (2017) door handles - daft push to grab design very similar to the Nissan GT-R - if you have something in one hand it's a real chore.
Alfa Romeo Giulia - lovely door cards, then a B-pillar panel that seems to have been designed by a different person with no access to the design of the door. To be fair, huge numbers of cars fail at continuity from front to rear door cards across the B-pillar.
Tesla Model S interior door 'handles' - sculpted grabs that are in the completely wrong place to give you any meaningful leverage to open the door.
ian_c_uk said:
Brake lights on current TT.
Make a thin line joining the tail lights....
Make the brake lights within the tail lights a thin line...
...and then put at the bottom, not lining up with the middle!
They could have framed that line up the side and along top of tail lights, or the high brake light could have been along the edge of the boot above number plate!
TT high brake light, the place to put it is in the top edge of the rear window, like the A7 and A5 Sportback. Where it is now between the lights, it's hardly any higher than the main brake lights.Make a thin line joining the tail lights....
Make the brake lights within the tail lights a thin line...
...and then put at the bottom, not lining up with the middle!
They could have framed that line up the side and along top of tail lights, or the high brake light could have been along the edge of the boot above number plate!
green911 said:
I know that it's not that modern, but is there an explanation for the split rear light clusters on the original(ish) Freelander? 
I was racking my brains trying to remember exactly which 90s 4x4 had the brake lights in the bumper and taillights in the upper light clusters. Was it the Freelander, or was it one of the Japanese ones?Either way it looked an absolute
, frankly.I am surprised no-one had mentioned semaphore indicators yet
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trafficators#/medi...
They were called Winking Trafficators..
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trafficators#/medi...
They were called Winking Trafficators..
Jonny_ said:
I was racking my brains trying to remember exactly which 90s 4x4 had the brake lights in the bumper and taillights in the upper light clusters. Was it the Freelander, or was it one of the Japanese ones?
Either way it looked an absolute, frankly.
To do with needing to show rear lights when the door is open?Either way it looked an absolute
, frankly.Wasnt there an earlier photo of lights on the internal pillar of something to solve the problem
cmvtec said:
saaby93 said:
To do with needing to show rear lights when the door is open?
Wasnt there an earlier photo of lights on the internal pillar of something to solve the problem
Discovery?Wasnt there an earlier photo of lights on the internal pillar of something to solve the problem
It wasnt the Kuga but it might have a couple of internal pillar lights
Heres what a picasso does when you lift the tail gate
http://www.parkers.co.uk/citroen/grand-c4-picasso/...
http://www.parkers.co.uk/citroen/grand-c4-picasso/...
kambites said:
I believe the insignia estate is like that.
that was it 
http://www.carwriteups.co.uk/2012/07/vauxhall-insi...
Jonny_ said:
I was racking my brains trying to remember exactly which 90s 4x4 had the brake lights in the bumper and taillights in the upper light clusters. Was it the Freelander, or was it one of the Japanese ones?
Either way it looked an absolute, frankly.
Nissan Patrol? Ours has the brake lights low on the bumperEither way it looked an absolute
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