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Lazadude said:
This is what I'm trying to avoid, I just know what I want, and I'd buy new if they still made the engine I wanted hah.
Still looking for the C63 Estate with Performance Pack and LSD? :-)What will add salt to the wounds is that when we have a car in an unusual feature ( not had one for you sorry! ) it will often sell to someone who couldn't care less about that option "I just wanted a blue one" ....
RicksAlfas said:
gothatway said:
When I had company cars, I could choose whatever I wanted up to a specific price, and would often pick stuff from the options list to get closer to it. Does that no longer happen ?
I had a pal who did this. He had one of the best equipped 320eds I'd seen. He must have driven his fleet manager up the wall."How much extra per month is the optional rear illuminated armrest package? 83p? I'll take it".
gothatway said:
Fast Bug said:
For a volume manufacturer I'd say very few options beyond metallic paint. For a manufacturer such as BMW/MB owners are more likely to dip in to the options list
When I had company cars, I could choose whatever I wanted up to a specific price, and would often pick stuff from the options list to get closer to it. Does that no longer happen ?gothatway said:
When I had company cars, I could choose whatever I wanted up to a specific price, and would often pick stuff from the options list to get closer to it. Does that no longer happen ?
In the 25yrs I had company cars, with various companies, I never had that - we just got the basic car, as is. I did once order a Peugeot 406 Executive (with quite a nice petrol turbo engine) simply because it had no options - everything, sat-nav (almost unheard of those days) sunroof and even metallic, was standard. Loved its leather electric memory seats. Everyone else had boggo 318's or A4's.When it arrived the leasing company had deleted the sat nav! Caused a bit of a kefuffle but I never got it.
At the last company they let people opt-out. Amazing how many people got exactly the same car they could have had as a company car, just so they could spec wheels an inch bigger. These were guys doing 30K/yr - most who opted out regretted it.
Fast Bug said:
Sometimes, it depends on the fleet policy of the individual company. Out of all the companies that I dealt with in cars, I only had 1 maybe 2 drivers a year that would try and spend every single penny of their budget. After all you get taxed on the P11d value so you're only adding to your tax bill
Ah, this was a long time ago when tax rules were different.So as we hit 2nd September what exactly happens if anything for the rest of the month?
After the orgy of new-plate-itis today do you expect many if any walk in sales or is it tumbleweed and taking any remaining holiday before it picks up again?
Vested interest is that I really wanted a run out BMW 3 series as production has stopped and the new number plate catches attention however BMW have actually dropped support/discounts and APR making it a choice for the committed fruitcake just as they launch the new 3
Cheers
It depends on the dealer and the manufacturer. If the dealer needs units to hit target, then there will be deals to be had as the month marches on. Same for the manufacturer really, if they're short of registrations they'll start chucking money at the dealers to get more units done before the end of the month.
EDIT that doesn't answer your question does it...
There may be deals on outgoing 3 Series, you'd need to speak to a few dealers as I'm sure BMW would put some suport behind enquiries unless they have very little stock on the ground
EDIT that doesn't answer your question does it...
There may be deals on outgoing 3 Series, you'd need to speak to a few dealers as I'm sure BMW would put some suport behind enquiries unless they have very little stock on the ground
Edited by Fast Bug on Saturday 1st September 23:14
Looking at a new Yaris using Toyota Scrappage for Mrs G.
She has 1998 RAV4 on its last legs which is worth next to nothing.
Scrappage deal is £14800 less £2500 for her car which is £12300 but I can buy the car for £11600 using Broadspeed.
Would there be any negotiation on full retail using the Scrappage offer.
She has 1998 RAV4 on its last legs which is worth next to nothing.
Scrappage deal is £14800 less £2500 for her car which is £12300 but I can buy the car for £11600 using Broadspeed.
Would there be any negotiation on full retail using the Scrappage offer.
Fast Bug said:
It depends on the dealer and the manufacturer. If the dealer needs units to hit target, then there will be deals to be had as the month marches on. Same for the manufacturer really, if they're short of registrations they'll start chucking money at the dealers to get more units done before the end of the month.
How are they going to hit target if they haven’t got cars to sell? Apparently VW, for example, currently doesn’t have any WLTP approved Golfs or Tiguans!Sheepshanks said:
Fast Bug said:
It depends on the dealer and the manufacturer. If the dealer needs units to hit target, then there will be deals to be had as the month marches on. Same for the manufacturer really, if they're short of registrations they'll start chucking money at the dealers to get more units done before the end of the month.
How are they going to hit target if they haven’t got cars to sell? Apparently VW, for example, currently doesn’t have any WLTP approved Golfs or Tiguans!Wooda80 said:
Still looking for the C63 Estate with Performance Pack and LSD? :-)
What will add salt to the wounds is that when we have a car in an unusual feature ( not had one for you sorry! ) it will often sell to someone who couldn't care less about that option "I just wanted a blue one" ....
Yep...What will add salt to the wounds is that when we have a car in an unusual feature ( not had one for you sorry! ) it will often sell to someone who couldn't care less about that option "I just wanted a blue one" ....
And I'm sure that happens more then I want to know about!
Lazadude said:
Wooda80 said:
Still looking for the C63 Estate with Performance Pack and LSD? :-)
What will add salt to the wounds is that when we have a car in an unusual feature ( not had one for you sorry! ) it will often sell to someone who couldn't care less about that option "I just wanted a blue one" ....
Yep...What will add salt to the wounds is that when we have a car in an unusual feature ( not had one for you sorry! ) it will often sell to someone who couldn't care less about that option "I just wanted a blue one" ....
And I'm sure that happens more then I want to know about!
Sheepshanks said:
May just be a purchase tactic - I wouldn't admit I had my heart set on a particular option. When I got my Merc the salesman apologised the interior wasn't black, so I went along with him. I dislike black interiors - the best thing about my car is its lovely light grey leather interior.
Ah, yeah but I won't buy it if it doesn't have it. So seems a bit silly to not say what I "need" to have. Im sure that there would be other options people would want that I don't care about, but are "nice to have".Suppose lots of people would expect something with that power level to have a LSD as standard too...
I don't need the car, current one is more than fine. So I can wait and keep browsing the classifieds every now and then.
Sheepshanks said:
How are they going to hit target if they haven’t got cars to sell? Apparently VW, for example, currently doesn’t have any WLTP approved Golfs or Tiguans!
Some manufacturers have removed the September target entirely whilst guaranteeing bonus margin for all sales in Sep. This is a hollow effort though as stock is so thin on the ground it wouldn't matter what bonuses they offered.September is a major contributor to the financial year for franchised dealers and the WLTP stock f
k up could cause HUGE losses in one of the few months you are (generally) guaranteed to turn a profit.The national franchised dealer association summer results were recently published and you can see in the movement at the upper end a backlash for manufacturers who haven't adequately coped with WLTP. This I suspect will happen again in the winter survey for the franchises with insufficient stock to cover a peak period.
I see a number of private plates advertised by car dealers (not reg dealers)
So as I understand it, a car dealer maybe takes in a car in PX or buys one in. Say the car has a plate they think they can sell, well how do they remove it without registering the car in their name?
Ive always thought a trader fills in the yellow section of the V5c to 'register it to trade' so is it possible for a car dealer who has registered the car to trade (not put it in their name as owners on the V5c) to put the plate on retention and sell it afterwards?
So as I understand it, a car dealer maybe takes in a car in PX or buys one in. Say the car has a plate they think they can sell, well how do they remove it without registering the car in their name?
Ive always thought a trader fills in the yellow section of the V5c to 'register it to trade' so is it possible for a car dealer who has registered the car to trade (not put it in their name as owners on the V5c) to put the plate on retention and sell it afterwards?
If the plate is actually worth the hassle of selling then they would register the car in their name, then retain the plate. An extra owner on the car isn’t of massive consequence if there’s a profit to be made on the plate.
IME most ‘private’ plates that get left on cars when traded in are crap anyway.
IME most ‘private’ plates that get left on cars when traded in are crap anyway.
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