Awkward design details on production cars
Discussion
sawman said:
have we had the panel joint halfway over the fiat spyder front wing?
![](https://thumbsnap.com/sc/iCJP7Et4.jpg)
someone pointed it out a few weeks ago, and now, whenever I see a spyder it's the only feature I can see... pity really I quite like it before
It’s the same on the Mazda MX5 it’s based on, although the MX5 joint could be ever so slightly further forwards![](https://thumbsnap.com/sc/iCJP7Et4.jpg)
someone pointed it out a few weeks ago, and now, whenever I see a spyder it's the only feature I can see... pity really I quite like it before
ajprice said:
Noticed this on a Qashqai the other day. The indicator bulbs are right next to the LED DRLs, the DRLs win on brightness, and unlike most others like the Mondeo, Audi etc. the one side doesn't dim when the indicator comes on, so the indicator isn't easy to see.
![](http://hyyperlic.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/2014-NISSAN-QASHQAI-9.jpg)
The design team realised this and listened to the feedback from the market and for the facelift (low grade lamp) developed the DRL so that it dims when the indicator is functioning to aid visibility.![](http://hyyperlic.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/2014-NISSAN-QASHQAI-9.jpg)
Bloody good bloke the designer of those lamps on the facelift Qashqai. Handsome too.
![whistle](/inc/images/whistle.gif)
ETA, high grade LED lamp the DRL changes to be the indicator so there’s no chance of missing that when it’s on.
Cyder said:
HTP99 said:
Matt Cup said:
I think it is to aid airflow around the rear lamps so they don't get caked in general road crap so they keep clean, other cars have similar bits but are much better integrated. The idea is to generate a clean separation of airflow to reduce the coefficient of drag and in turn increase fuel economy/reduce CO2.
I assume in other countries outside of the EU don’t have those stuck on then as the requirements are different.
mat205125 said:
Dapster said:
mat205125 said:
Huge chrome circles and stylised chrome oblongs on the rear bumpers, with or without holes through the middle for exhaust gasses to escape through, from their apologetic tailpipes.
Step forward Mercedes Benz for being the worst offender for all of the above....
Audi SQ5, that's you that is....Step forward Mercedes Benz for being the worst offender for all of the above....
![](https://www.autocar.co.uk/sites/autocar.co.uk/files/styles/gallery_slide/public/images/car-reviews/first-drives/legacy/audi-sq5-a-385.jpg?itok=Jf22nF-Y)
![](https://www.awe-tuning.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/s/q/sq1.png)
Are their no car enthusiasts involved in new car development and design??
Cyder said:
HTP99 said:
Matt Cup said:
I think it is to aid airflow around the rear lamps so they don't get caked in general road crap so they keep clean, other cars have similar bits but are much better integrated. The idea is to generate a clean separation of airflow to reduce the coefficient of drag and in turn increase fuel economy/reduce CO2.
595Heaven said:
Yes. I named one of the premium metallic colours in the JLR palette. Cool story, bro...
Ah, so you are the chap who could possibly answer my question.Is there a policy for JLR to name colours after places? I've owned Santorini Black. Named after an Aegean Greek island. Kaikoura Stone. A place in New Zealand and my present car, is Corris Grey, Corris being a place in Wales.
AJXX1 said:
KillerHERTZ said:
As a former disco 3 owner I've always detested these new shape disco's. Looks awful in my opinion, basically an evoque on steroids.I get the D I S C O V E R Y script on the back. All Land Rovers display their brand like this fore and aft. It's reminiscent of what appeared on the original Range Rover, so that's fine. Offering it in technical grey, gloss black or chrome is OK as it distinguishes between trim levels.
Below that you have the SPORT badge in a completely different font. It looks cheap and stuck on. Like something you can buy from an accessory shop.
Then you get a discreet metal badge with the model and engine designation on it. HSE TD4 or whatever. Its quite a classy upmarket little badge.
Its like three people designed the badges and they put them all on the back at the prototype stage then forgot to make a decision on which ones to ditch and a made it to production.
Wildcat45 said:
The lettering on the back of head bugs me.
I get the D I S C O V E R Y script on the back. All Land Rovers display their grand like this fore and aft. It's reminiscent of what appeared on the original Range Rover, so that's fine. Offering it in technical grey, gloss black or chrome is OK as it distinguishes between trim levels.
Below that you have the SPORT badge in a completely different font. It looks cheap and stuck on. Like something you can buy from an accessory shop.
Then you get a discreet metal badge with the model and engine designation on it. HSE TD4 or whatever. Its quite a classy upmarket little badge.
Its like three people designed the badges and they put them all on the back at the prototype stage then forgot to make a decision and a made it to production.
They're trying to make sure people dont think it's a Freelander I get the D I S C O V E R Y script on the back. All Land Rovers display their grand like this fore and aft. It's reminiscent of what appeared on the original Range Rover, so that's fine. Offering it in technical grey, gloss black or chrome is OK as it distinguishes between trim levels.
Below that you have the SPORT badge in a completely different font. It looks cheap and stuck on. Like something you can buy from an accessory shop.
Then you get a discreet metal badge with the model and engine designation on it. HSE TD4 or whatever. Its quite a classy upmarket little badge.
Its like three people designed the badges and they put them all on the back at the prototype stage then forgot to make a decision and a made it to production.
![yes](/inc/images/yes.gif)
The front LR badge is odd too theyve shifted it bottom right of the grille
I started this topic with a Peugeot and I've found another problem with them
The rear light clusters on a Peugeot 307 CC do not match side to side. I can't find a photo that adequately demonstrates this. One side is obviously the rear fog light, and one side is the reversing light. But to achieve this, they have made the entire light cluster "white" on one side behind the red glass, and red on the other. When you're stuck behind it, it jars much more than any other car I've seen with similar set ups of fog light one side/reverse light on the other
The rear light clusters on a Peugeot 307 CC do not match side to side. I can't find a photo that adequately demonstrates this. One side is obviously the rear fog light, and one side is the reversing light. But to achieve this, they have made the entire light cluster "white" on one side behind the red glass, and red on the other. When you're stuck behind it, it jars much more than any other car I've seen with similar set ups of fog light one side/reverse light on the other
The Alfa Mito has two cup holders in the center console., one in front of the gear stick and the other behind the handbrake. Both of which are terrible, the front (pictured below) is awkward when changing gears and you can't have bigger than a medium coke in there and the other one is way too shallow for anything.
![](https://thumbsnap.com/sc/lkDHg80x.jpg)
But, its Italian and you can't hold it against the car.
Oh, there's also no place to put your phone either so you have to put in the massive pocket by the cup holder, or in the massive plastic, door handles or sit on it.
![](https://thumbsnap.com/sc/lkDHg80x.jpg)
But, its Italian and you can't hold it against the car.
Oh, there's also no place to put your phone either so you have to put in the massive pocket by the cup holder, or in the massive plastic, door handles or sit on it.
Matt Cup said:
Cyder said:
HTP99 said:
Matt Cup said:
I think it is to aid airflow around the rear lamps so they don't get caked in general road crap so they keep clean, other cars have similar bits but are much better integrated. The idea is to generate a clean separation of airflow to reduce the coefficient of drag and in turn increase fuel economy/reduce CO2.
I assume in other countries outside of the EU don’t have those stuck on then as the requirements are different.
Shakermaker said:
I started this topic with a Peugeot and I've found another problem with them
The rear light clusters on a Peugeot 307 CC do not match side to side. I can't find a photo that adequately demonstrates this. One side is obviously the rear fog light, and one side is the reversing light. But to achieve this, they have made the entire light cluster "white" on one side behind the red glass, and red on the other. When you're stuck behind it, it jars much more than any other car I've seen with similar set ups of fog light one side/reverse light on the other
this one?The rear light clusters on a Peugeot 307 CC do not match side to side. I can't find a photo that adequately demonstrates this. One side is obviously the rear fog light, and one side is the reversing light. But to achieve this, they have made the entire light cluster "white" on one side behind the red glass, and red on the other. When you're stuck behind it, it jars much more than any other car I've seen with similar set ups of fog light one side/reverse light on the other
![](https://www.magnatuning.com/images/Peugeot-307-CC-RX-Rear-Bumper-Extension_picture_35478.jpg)
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