John 'O' Groats To Lands End - Our Story & Potential Record?

John 'O' Groats To Lands End - Our Story & Potential Record?

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jakesmith

9,461 posts

173 months

Friday 4th December 2020
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There’s a constant conflict between normal people who are car enthusiasts and enjoy sporty driving, and sour puritans / environmentalists, on this car forum

anonymous-user

56 months

Saturday 5th December 2020
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Schmed said:
I’m sure (hope) Sprucey has better things to do with his time....
I couldn't give a st, either way he is not someone or somebody i would admire as you seem to do. Anyone who drills a fuel tank is pretty much an idiot either way.

Schmed said:
These type of efforts should be applauded rather than erecting a gallows as too many on here appear to seem to want to do.

The amount of crowing over his potential misfortune and jail time was quite frankly shameful on a site like this.
I was a big fan of Gumball until that bloke killed two innocents and then tried to do a runner. Overnight I realised it was pure recklessness.

It sort of sums up the people who do it, totally disregard for others.

anonymous-user

56 months

Saturday 5th December 2020
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ChocolateFrog said:
The Spruce Goose said:
Some of the things he says really could be proved right, it seems the police didn't bother, so he made up a story to fit what they knew. If he did lie i pretty sure he can still pejury himself, will be interesting if any internet detectives do some digging...
I'm sure there's one or two in here fervently on the case now.
Why would they do that? If he committed perjury it's in the past i.e. at trial, not 'he still can'.

He was tried, apparently did a good job representing himself (I expect the evidence wasn't the strongest), was found NG and is now a free man. That'll be the end of it.

Cool speculation though.

The Spruce Goose said:
I was a big fan of Gumball until that bloke killed two innocents and then tried to do a runner. Overnight I realised it was pure recklessness.

It sort of sums up the people who do it, totally disregard for others.
You need to learn the rules.

It's bad when it goes wrong.

It doesn't matter when it doesn't, regardless of the risk...

RDMcG

19,280 posts

209 months

Saturday 5th December 2020
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I am not in the least shocked,. As others have said,.people speed. I don't think it is the end of the world. I come from the era when the PH motto was "speed matter". Still works for me!

This was a planned example, and I just thought he would have been wise not to put it in social media. I never understood the idea of broadcasting an illegal act. The world of selfies and videos has changed the world and people seem to have an endless need to achieve internet fame.






ddom

6,657 posts

50 months

Saturday 5th December 2020
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Crossflow Kid said:
Clearly your idea and my idea of worthwhile risk differ somewhat.
I can completely understand why he did it...to him, the “risk” of getting caught is what it’s all about. Hardly an admirable undertaking is it?
I’m guessing if it was someone else’s Audi and he drove like he did because he’d just stolen it, we’d be seeing a totally different thread.

Edited by Crossflow Kid on Friday 4th December 23:01
I honestly think you're on the wrong forum.

anonymous-user

56 months

Saturday 5th December 2020
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Speed in itself isn't an issue.

It's inappropriate speed.

If your goal is to get from A to B as fast as possible, over 8 hours (or 12, of course wink ), then I can't imagine driving to the circumstances was a priority. I expect if we were passengers, there'd be plenty of moments we'd be unhappy with.

anonymous-user

56 months

Saturday 5th December 2020
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ddom said:
I honestly think you're on the wrong forum.
laugh
Look, the “risk” he took wasn’t daring, admirable or heroic.
It was rather tedious and boring, the more I think about it.
Mind you, I’ve been shot at a few times, once with a surface to air missile, so like I said, my idea of risk and the associated thrill of beating it, and yours probably differ.

Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 5th December 01:33

EyeHeartSpellin

670 posts

85 months

Saturday 5th December 2020
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Crossflow Kid said:
ddom said:
I honestly think you're on the wrong forum.
laugh
Look, the “risk” he took wasn’t daring, admirable or heroic.
It was rather tedious and boring, the more I think about it.
Mind you, I’ve been shot at a few times, once with a surface to air missile, so like I said, my idea of risk and the associated thrill of beating it, and yours probably differ.

Edited by Crossflow Kid on Saturday 5th December 01:33
Custard on the missile.

bobbysmithy

1,761 posts

43 months

Saturday 5th December 2020
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Crossflow Kid said:
laugh
Look, the “risk” he took wasn’t daring, admirable or heroic.
It was rather tedious and boring, the more I think about it.
Mind you, I’ve been shot at a few times, once with a surface to air missile, so like I said, my idea of risk and the associated thrill of beating it, and yours probably differ.

Edited by Crossflow Kid on Saturday 5th December 01:33
We got a bad ass over here

Sahjahd

420 posts

47 months

Saturday 5th December 2020
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ChocolateFrog said:
ninepoint2 said:
I really hope he did it, and after representing himself in court got away with it. Simply put I think the world needs more folks that stick 2 fingers at the "authorities" and if he did it I take my hat off to him, huge respect sir.
Exactly, no one got hurt and he has an epic story to tell the grandkids.

It can't be long before we're being encouraged to stay in our homes permanently for fear of undertaking unnecessary risk, oh wait ??.
wag2 said:
As the late Norman Dewis might have said

Good Man
When I first came here, one thing I admired about the people was their attitude towards what they saw as arbitrary rules, and about the police was their attitude towards enforcing them.
Reading this and the linked threads, something has changed. Many Pistonheaders, supposedly car and driving enthusiasts, take delight in criticising a character who did no harm to anyone, and the police were able to find time and energy to investigate and persecute that same character even though there are hundreds of thousands of unsolved crimes which have harmed people.

The man may have been foolish, but justice has been done, irrespective of any laws which he may have broken.

The Mad Monk

10,493 posts

119 months

Saturday 5th December 2020
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Sir Charles Laughton, I think it was (it certainly wasn't Tommy Lawton) said -
"Were You Lying Then, Or Are You Lying Now?"

loudlashadjuster

5,251 posts

186 months

Saturday 5th December 2020
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Just catching up on yesterday’s events.

laugh

jakesmith

9,461 posts

173 months

Saturday 5th December 2020
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EyeHeartSpellin said:
Custard on the missile.
I’ve heard some euphemisms in my time but that’s a different kind of gravy!

vaud

51,005 posts

157 months

Saturday 5th December 2020
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sociopath said:
I see a lot of random police stops in his future.
Already happening for law abiding people travelling between tier 3 and tier 2 areas.

Speed1283

1,172 posts

97 months

Saturday 5th December 2020
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Bodo said:
100SRV said:
Kawasicki said:
I‘m not sure that’s correct. I read a few German car mags and remember an article where the diesels were quite clearly better than the petrols at about 155mph...






From an interesting article “The cost of flat out“

https://www.autobild.de/bilder/was-kostet-vollgas-...

Edited by Kawasicki on Thursday 3rd December 19:27
This is where a graph showing BHP, torque and fuel consumption is useful.
Traveling at a certain speed is just traveling at a certain speed. Click through the gallery to see other interesting examples, such as



At 11.5l/100km, the Merc 180 Kompressor travels at 195km/h - the Prius at 170km/h; while 180km/h is a comfy cruising speed (where allowed). My 2017 (over ten years newer) 118i is below 10l/100km with the cruise control set at 180.
Bodo said:
100SRV said:
Kawasicki said:
I‘m not sure that’s correct. I read a few German car mags and remember an article where the diesels were quite clearly better than the petrols at about 155mph...






From an interesting article “The cost of flat out“

https://www.autobild.de/bilder/was-kostet-vollgas-...

Edited by Kawasicki on Thursday 3rd December 19:27
This is where a graph showing BHP, torque and fuel consumption is useful.
Traveling at a certain speed is just traveling at a certain speed. Click through the gallery to see other interesting examples, such as



At 11.5l/100km, the Merc 180 Kompressor travels at 195km/h - the Prius at 170km/h; while 180km/h is a comfy cruising speed (where allowed). My 2017 (over ten years newer) 118i is below 10l/100km with the cruise control set at 180.
I'm not sure that the Prius comparison is really a fair one in this context though, I think top gear demonstrated that if driven hard to a high speed it used more fuel than a V8 M3 at the same speed. The Prius is known to be rubbish at higher speeds.

I'd argue that the BMW graph that's shown is very valid, both powerful(ish) long distance cruisers. At the average speed of say 90-100mph the diesel is using 30% less fuel per km. I'd say that's pretty significant. But you'd still need a pretty hefty additional tank to avoid having to stop altogether, and that's assuming the driver can go without stopping in any event.



Tom1312

1,024 posts

148 months

Saturday 5th December 2020
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I'd be more inclined to think even the stupidest person would be more inclined to lie on the internet as opposed to Crown Court.

Interesting story for the Grandkids though.

I'd love to have a go at something like this but having had enough driver training and spent enough time driving close to flat out on the public roads, I wouldn't want to take the risks involved in a 9/10/11/12 hour cross country run at the speeds reported/invented.

anonymous-user

56 months

Saturday 5th December 2020
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Tom1312 said:
I'd be more inclined to think even the stupidest person would be more inclined to lie on the internet as opposed to Crown Court.
I guess we come from different worlds but to me the opposite is far more likely laugh

ThumperMc

4,597 posts

188 months

Saturday 5th December 2020
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That’s his ego sufficiently bruised hehe

ddom

6,657 posts

50 months

Saturday 5th December 2020
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Crossflow Kid said:
laugh
Look, the “risk” he took wasn’t daring, admirable or heroic.
It was rather tedious and boring, the more I think about it.
Mind you, I’ve been shot at a few times, once with a surface to air missile, so like I said, my idea of risk and the associated thrill of beating it, and yours probably differ.

Edited by Crossflow Kid on Saturday 5th December 01:33
Waitrose car park has always been a hostile battleground, especially the parent child spaces.

Pupp

12,287 posts

274 months

Saturday 5th December 2020
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Hmmm... be interesting to see if that’s the end of the second story.