Flemke - Is this your McLaren? (Vol 5)
Discussion
moles said:
Flemke did you ever do anything with the elise and Honda engine or ever try one out?, also as a owner of an elise/exige I love the steering feel that they give you how does the f1 compare is it loads better?.
No, I never drove an Elise w Honda conversion. Unassisted steering feel and feedback on F1 are similar to the Elise, although on F1 there is a bigger differential between steering weighting at low and high speeds.AlmostUseful said:
I also don’t know how to open an F1 from the inside, I also don’t know how to operate the radio or start the thing, probably not the highest worry on my list!
The cars did not have the option of a radio (although McLaren retrofitted radios to a few of them). The cars did however come with starters. S1KRR said:
advert says said:
?Documented with invoices dating to 2007, plus written history and evaluation by MSO
As in nothing in the last 12 years? Seems odd. Given the bag tank and driveshafts (and other bits) are "lifed"
Got a question about the "eyebrow panels" above the headlights - do they have a practical purpose?
I have always wondered if the tooling master was already signed off and in production before wind tunnel testing had been fully completed and the original intention of venting radiator air out of this region (refer air flow sketches on page 80 of "Driving Ambition", photos of the clinic model and the exploded view on page 90) was abandoned and these panels added to "patch" the hole.
The car I am building is described over in the Readers Cars section - under 540Hp NA 7L V12 3 seater - and the nose without eyebrows would look something like this;
Edited by F1natic on Wednesday 21st August 12:14
Edited by F1natic on Wednesday 21st August 12:15
Ah, can I get a hint of information?
I'm particularly interested in steering for the past few months.
I'm kinda disappointed with the way Diablo / Murcielago steer.
And also I'm skeptical about the Veyron and RS6 C7.
So far what unites them - is the steering rack/linkage being IN FRONT of the axle itself.
Which makes them weird at the Ackermann geometry because it is much much better to have a steering rack/linkage behind the front axle.
And so, Flemke, can you tell me some info?
I'm sorry, I haven't read the full topic (and other volumes), but it seems you all are having good time here
The questions are somewhat subjective:
- does the car feel awkward with the full lock moving at crawling speeds?
Like as if a small understeer tendency is present and the outer wheel is a bit slipping (especially easy to see outside, i.e. as a spectator, but no idea how often you see your F1 driven by someone else
)
- lock-to-lock ratio - ???
some sources say 2:1, others 2.8:1
- does the steering feel somewhat blank in the center? Like first 90 degrees elseway do nothing?
Or 90 degrees of quick steering, then 180 are a bit blank, and then quick steer again?
Sometimes there're blank 180 degrees and then it starts to turn.
At 2:1 lock-to-lock - Tesla Model X P100D Complete junk to turn a steering wheel in.
(that all is so awkward because of the steering rack in front of the axle, lol)
- self-centering feel? (i.e. caster setting)
does it feel like steering easily centers itself in a oversteering condition?
this might also add the desirable weight at higher speeds, but it's worse for cornering sometimes (which can be overcome with high sidewall tires, as they compensate for both).
- do you have to push it somewhat to make it point where you want? apart from where it centers?
Idk if you drive or drive it all out
Owners of that pricey cars are usually in their more generous and wise age, but I'd all out it, if the car allows (i.e. somewhat forgiving on the edge, which F1 is not, probably).
- would you want a quicker steering rack on your F1?
subjective
Thank you!
Curious to know.
Yes, another guy who's up to make his supercars, but maybe a little closer to the target than the others.
I'm particularly interested in steering for the past few months.
I'm kinda disappointed with the way Diablo / Murcielago steer.
And also I'm skeptical about the Veyron and RS6 C7.
So far what unites them - is the steering rack/linkage being IN FRONT of the axle itself.
Which makes them weird at the Ackermann geometry because it is much much better to have a steering rack/linkage behind the front axle.
And so, Flemke, can you tell me some info?
I'm sorry, I haven't read the full topic (and other volumes), but it seems you all are having good time here
The questions are somewhat subjective:
- does the car feel awkward with the full lock moving at crawling speeds?
Like as if a small understeer tendency is present and the outer wheel is a bit slipping (especially easy to see outside, i.e. as a spectator, but no idea how often you see your F1 driven by someone else
)- lock-to-lock ratio - ???
some sources say 2:1, others 2.8:1
- does the steering feel somewhat blank in the center? Like first 90 degrees elseway do nothing?
Or 90 degrees of quick steering, then 180 are a bit blank, and then quick steer again?
Sometimes there're blank 180 degrees and then it starts to turn.
At 2:1 lock-to-lock - Tesla Model X P100D
Complete junk to turn a steering wheel in.(that all is so awkward because of the steering rack in front of the axle, lol)
- self-centering feel? (i.e. caster setting)
does it feel like steering easily centers itself in a oversteering condition?
this might also add the desirable weight at higher speeds, but it's worse for cornering sometimes (which can be overcome with high sidewall tires, as they compensate for both).
- do you have to push it somewhat to make it point where you want? apart from where it centers?
Idk if you drive or drive it all out
Owners of that pricey cars are usually in their more generous and wise age, but I'd all out it, if the car allows (i.e. somewhat forgiving on the edge, which F1 is not, probably).
- would you want a quicker steering rack on your F1?
subjective
Thank you!
Curious to know.
Yes, another guy who's up to make his supercars, but maybe a little closer to the target than the others.
There were four F1s (including an LM) at the Quail on Friday: https://arstechnica.com/cars/2019/08/these-mclaren...
Dr Gitlin said:
There were four F1s (including an LM) at the Quail on Friday: https://arstechnica.com/cars/2019/08/these-mclaren...
I met Gordon Murray a few years ago at a Goodwood event - he’s genuinely so down to earth like his shirt suggests.Petrus1983 said:
Dr Gitlin said:
There were four F1s (including an LM) at the Quail on Friday: https://arstechnica.com/cars/2019/08/these-mclaren...
I met Gordon Murray a few years ago at a Goodwood event - he’s genuinely so down to earth like his shirt suggests.Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff