Are todays sports cars just too good??

[Irrotational]

rhinochopig said:

This is the case for sevens too - where you'd think the owners would certainly know better - which are now generally bought with 15 or 16 inch wheels.

To be fair - after about 6 months or 1 track day they often realise the error of their ways and go back to 13's!

[Chunkychucky]

shoestring7 said:

Hmm. I think John Watson's old 911 from PH'd the other week was a much better point to start from: ~1000kgs, 210hp from a light engine that makes a lovely noise, and absolutely no driver aids (not even servoed brakes).

For me 0 - 100mph in 10seconds tells of a car where its not possible to enjoy full throttle+revs for more than a couple of seconds before you're doing illegal/stupid/dangerous speeds.

SS7

Absolutely, for me this.

[MKnight702]

paranoid airbag said:

rhinochopig said:

Mine (for a drivers car) would be:

~ 800kg
Front engine RWD
100-120bhp from a 45mpg engine
185 width tyres max
Geared for acceleration - Top speed no more than 110 mph
Agree on the suspension design - set up for b roads though
Spartan interior, but a hardtop design.
£15k

Why, because at that power to traction ratio you'd have a delightfully mobile rear which could be enjoyed at sensible speeds. It would also cost beans to run.

let me know when that goes into production.

Although, isn't that pretty close to caterham/locost spec? oops, just seen 'hardtop' bit.

Trouble is, I think it's already been into production, look at cars from the 60's and 70's. Perhaps not the suspension bit, but I put money on you having more fun more of the time in something like a Capri rather than something fast like a BMW M3.

[LuS1fer]

In response to the above about Lotus cars being cool or trendy and what can they do to make it better, the answer is build them better and make access easier. I got as far as test-driving a Mk 2 111S and left it because bits were already falling off it and the instruments looked like they'd been made on Blue Peter. It was also not less than a chore getting in.

I think this is why people buy Porsches.