Re: SOTW: Peugeot 106 Rallye

[slikrs]

Were you at the Doune hillclimb with Chris many years ago (I can't even guess how long ago)? I was up there and met some guys who were up with him as a few of us had gone up to support Dave. Man, the years have flown by!

And for those of you Rallye virgins reading this you'll note that by buying one of these cars you are buying yourself into a long standing community - you never forget these cars (if you are unfortunate enough to have to sell it on).

I'd best get back to work while I have a job lol, this is the only forum I can get at from this network - everything else is banned....

Edited by slikrs on Friday 30th September 10:51

[j_s14a]

I should imagine as a track car, very few cars would be cheaper to run. I like the fact there's no power steering, it's not necessary on something like this (though my mk1 Golf GTi is a b1tch to park, though that's probably down to the 15" wheels and Yoko tyres )

[slikrs]

I recognise your forum name too :-) Though it's been years since I was active on any of the 106 forums.

Hope life's treating you well.

Edited by slikrs on Friday 30th September 11:04

[filski666]

I was going to buy one of these aaaages ago ....then I remembered the old saying:

"Big feet............can't drive a Pug 106 Rallye"

Shame really, but the only way to press the accelerator without hitting the brake at the same time was to twist my foot on its side....no really conducive with an enjoyable drive

[slikrs]

j_s14a said:

I should imagine as a track car, very few cars would be cheaper to run. I like the fact there's no power steering, it's not necessary on something like this (though my mk1 Golf GTi is a b1tch to park, though that's probably down to the 15" wheels and Yoko tyres )

Yeah my smaller moto-lita wheel and A048's don't make parking easy!

[slikrs]

filski666 said:

I was going to buy one of these aaaages ago ....then I remembered the old saying:

"Big feet............can't drive a Pug 106 Rallye"

Shame really, but the only way to press the accelerator without hitting the brake at the same time was to twist my foot on its side....no really conducive with an enjoyable drive

I drive in racing boots and the carpet is stuck to the inner wing to give a tad more room, I do have narrower feet which helps but pedals can be customised. My seat is 2" further back than standard too (modified the seat rails) which helps a lot!!

[D-Speed]

Hi guys. My favourite vid clip on the 106 Rallye in action. ^^^

Doune is a cracking hill.

[soxboy]

Jerry Can said:

i had one of these when new in 1994. Ace car, fast and fun to drive. A little bit short geared though for motorway use = 70 mph in 5th = 4000rpm.

And at 100mph it was a hell of a lot more revs, never have I returned from Edinburgh so quickly - and due to it doing 6000rpm all the way back my hangover had gone by the time got home (although ears buzzing for a number of days afterwards)

Jerry Can said:

I saw my old s1 rallye where it was being stripped for parts to make a rally car. It had a hard life.

Probably all it was worth doing with after you'd rearranged the scenery with it all this times

Happy days!!

[DLovett]

Here are some pictures of my old one:






It was absolutely mint, but cost me a fortune to run, sold it at a major loss

Wouldn't recommend this for a daily, but as a stripped out weekend car, it would be terrific.

[slikrs]

DLovett said:

It was absolutely mint, but cost me a fortune to run, sold it at a major loss

Really?

I've had about 70K miles out of mine in 10 years - 32mpg is the worst fuel economy I've ever had, I've repaired some rust on the chassis (fair enough I am a decent grease monkey and welder) and other than that a couple of drop links etc are all it would have needed had I not gone mad after I bought the Nissan and rebuilt the suspension and brakes with brand new components (vacuum servo, to 307 calipers to bushes and balljoints to dampers and top mounts and coil overs ;-) ) which only set me back about £4-5K - which is about all the car is worth on the market but annual depreciation on the Z wasn't far from that and put in that context it's a bargain as I've a brand new car :-D

I bought her for £3250 in 2002 and never once was she worth less than that!! Best car purchase I will ever make!

[DLovett]

slikrs said:

Really?

I've had about 70K miles out of mine in 10 years - 32mpg is the worst fuel economy I've ever had, I've repaired some rust on the chassis (fair enough I am a decent grease monkey and welder) and other than that a couple of drop links etc are all it would have needed had I not gone mad after I bought the Nissan and rebuilt the suspension and brakes with brand new components (vacuum servo, to 307 calipers to bushes and balljoints to dampers and top mounts and coil overs ;-) ) which only set me back about £4-5K - which is about all the car is worth on the market but annual depreciation on the Z wasn't far from that and put in that context it's a bargain as I've a brand new car :-D

I bought her for £3250 in 2002 and never once was she worth less than that!! Best car purchase I will ever make!

Clutch, headgasket and piston rings in under a month proved to be pretty costly. Electrics were bad, rev counter very erratic and very hard to fix(going through every single earth on the car). It was my daily, so I couldn't undertake the work myself. Not that I had a venue for it anyway.

Otherwise, I'm sure reliability is OK. They need valve adjustments once in a while, but that's not the toughest of jobs.

[soad]

Looks fun, good choice there!

[Baryonyx]

legalknievel said:

Great shed. With a 1.3 litre engine, is this also in first car territory?

Obviously it would be cheating. Everyone knows your first car has to be s&@!...

Absolutely not, I wouldn't have thought. It shows up as a 'Rallye' on the insurers books and they are quite aware of the leeway this gives them to charge more. Plus, they probably quake at the thought of a first time driver stacking it in one of these due to cadence braking not being taught for the driving test!

I was thinking of getting something a bit older for my next car. I was seriously considering these and 205 GTIs, but then I set my sights on a Cosworth. I have them in mind as a fallback, however.

[Bolognese]

One of my mates had one of these back in the day, was a lovely little car. We thought it was pretty quick at the time too

[slikrs]

DLovett said:

Clutch, headgasket and piston rings in under a month proved to be pretty costly. Electrics were bad, rev counter very erratic and very hard to fix(going through every single earth on the car). It was my daily, so I couldn't undertake the work myself. Not that I had a venue for it anyway.

Otherwise, I'm sure reliability is OK. They need valve adjustments once in a while, but that's not the toughest of jobs.

Sounds like you were unlucky, I got mine off a chav who had only owned it for 6 months so didn't have time to screw it up (he'd re-fitted the original steels prior to me picking it up and almost didn't let me take it away having forgotten just how much hit 15/16" cheap alloys has screwed the car up). Prior to that it was a car which covered a lot of motorway miles and I ended up getting to know the son of the first owner fairly well so I knew the history inside out (they did 55K in 3 years, it was then serviced at Pug and the 2nd owner covered about 5/7k before I rescued it). I stripped and re-built the head about 20K miles ago to replace the head gasket and the bores were perfect, even the head was pretty well perfect but I cleaned it up, had it skimmed and did a little to smooth off any rough edges etc ;-)

You've just got to accept the tappety noise (even when you have adjusted them perfectly or slightly tight), it's mostly the injectors tbh. No3 on mine is particularly interesting at times and I have a few sets of injectors to play with if it bothers me too much.... Do get these ultrasonically cleaned though, it makes the difference between first crank firing and 15th crank firing when starting!!

[LewisR]

Horrible car.
I drove a non-PAS 106 years ago and the steering was way too heavy.

An E34 525i would be far much more fun.

Get back to the luxo barges please!

[J4CKO]

LewisR said:

Horrible car.
I drove a non-PAS 106 years ago and the steering was way too heavy.

An E34 525i would be far much more fun.

Get back to the luxo barges please!

So, perhaps we need to make SOTW BMW only ?

Do people really not get SOTW, its meant to be about variety and there are only so many types of whiffy old BMW and most have been done, Garlick and co do their best to bring some esoteric and interesting sheds in for your delectation and all you can say is "BMW please" or even just barges, even barges will run out pretty quickly. How would an E34 525i be "far much more fun" ? both fun in different ways but these have a reputation for being "a hoot" ((c) Pistonheads 1999), why choose a 525i E34 anyway, too middle of the road, at least go for a 540i or an M5, but oh we had one of those a few weeks back.

As for PAS being "too heavy", get down the gym and stop being a big girl.

[rob1234]

Matt Cyclone said:

One of the best cars I've ever owned... Lift off oversteer is a joy in one of these when you want it. Somewhat tinny but no frills motoring at its best...

Ditto.

[slikrs]

J4CKO said:

As for PAS being "too heavy", get down the gym and stop being a big girl.

olly22n said:

Either you are weak as a kitten or the car was borked. There are fewer driving pleasures greater than a 106 rallye.

They get it, barges are different. I have a GT barge and it can't touch the Rallye for grins per mile.... Yeha it's nice to get into triple figures in 3rd gear and drop most incapable superbike owners but round the twisties my barge feels numb and completely outclassed by the Rallye... And I reckon most people would say a last iteration 313ps 350Z is a better car than a 328 (edit: I see 325, which is better but still similarly refined), as nice as that can be in its own context!

Edited by slikrs on Friday 30th September 11:59

[petrolsniffer]

LewisR said:

Horrible car.
I drove a non-PAS 106 years ago and the steering was way too heavy.

An E34 525i would be far much more fun.

Get back to the luxo barges please!

Wuss

I drive my non pas 205 1.1 daily no problems its certainly a better steer than the overassited corsa b I learnt in!